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Butt Discussin posted:Next stop: Cybertruck. But can it run Doom? 
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isndl posted:But can it run Doom? very very likely and if it doesn't happen naturally, tweet the idea to musk and make it happen
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Dec 14, 2019 02:13
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taqueso posted:very very likely and if it doesn't happen naturally, tweet the idea to musk and make it happen until fairly recently, Tesla's with Autopilot literally had a cutdown GTX 1060 on an MXM card in them
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Dec 14, 2019 03:19
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Cygni posted:You can’t really justify the purchase of toys in the dumb minmaxy way most people talk about them. It’s a toy. Buy the toy if you want, or don’t! It couldn’t matter less! I used to think PC gaming was a stupid expensive hobby, and yeah PCs do cost more than consoles, but as far as adult hobbies go, its dirt cheap.
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Dec 14, 2019 04:39
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Recreational shooting/guns as a hobby (excluding those who make it a compulsion) makes PC building seem cheap.
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Dec 14, 2019 05:08
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:I've gone GTX 260 -> HD6950 (needed an upgrade for BF3) -> HD7950 (driver improvement and Never Settle bundle tempted me) -> GTX 780 (accidentally won a Steam Machine) -> GTX1080 (780 was finally starting to show its age and I wanted 1440p) -> GTX 2070 Super (bundling CoD and still getting decent money for the 1080 was too tempting) If you're selling off your old video cards a pattern like this is totally reasonable! I upgrade way less often, but partly that's because I don't want to deal with ebay & paypal. When I sell old video cards it's to friends for cheap prices. So I buy midrange type cards and ride them a lot longer, including sometimes where I've played old games and indies for a year on a card that was getting meh for big games. Whatever works, works. The only pattern to buying computer junk that's actively bad is when it's more about the nerd retail therapy than any useful reason.
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Dec 14, 2019 05:49
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Recreational shooting/guns as a hobby (excluding those who make it a compulsion) makes PC building seem cheap. If it's compulsory it's not really a hobby anymore, it's a job, no? But you're right, a single piece of a single quality rifle can easily go for more than an entire decent computer, and a couple of mags of quality ammo is like shooting a AAA game downrange. So, yeah, by comparison PC gaming is pretty cheap as an adult hobby, where $1500 can buy you literally thousands of hours of entertainment.
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Dec 14, 2019 05:54
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Recreational shooting/guns as a hobby (excluding those who make it a compulsion) makes PC building seem cheap. Yeah no poo poo, shooting a single 20 rd mag of .308 is just a (much more fun) method of setting a $10 bill on fire. And that's for the cheapest brass cased.
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Dec 14, 2019 06:00
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And honestly even guns are a pretty cheap hobby compared to things like cars.
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Dec 14, 2019 06:07
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Until you get real into distance precision shooting and then your scope alone is like $5,000 and suddenly cars don't seem that much more expensive...
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Dec 14, 2019 06:20
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I love having a GPU. Some fans, heatsink stuff. a backplate. It's a little longer than my last one, but not much, and it has three fans when the last one had two. Now this is the right hobby for Bobby! (my name during this post)
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Dec 14, 2019 07:09
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I'm into cars as well and there's this awful feeling whenever you modify a car because you know that you've just made it more likely to break, you're putting more stress on w/e parts and you kinda get a halfway enjoyment out of performance parts. At least with PCs you put the part in, it's a direct upgrade, it's noticeable and measureable, and it's not going to have some big failure that costs you $5k (especially if you get stuff under warranty).
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Dec 14, 2019 07:30
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Cavauro posted:I love having a GPU. Some fans, heatsink stuff. a backplate. It's a little longer than my last one, but not much, and it has three fans when the last one had two. Now this is the right hobby for Bobby! (my name during this post) 
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Dec 14, 2019 07:32
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DrDork posted:Until you get real into distance precision shooting and then your scope alone is like $5,000 and suddenly cars don't seem that much more expensive... Many many people I shoot with escaped racing to a cheaper hobby. 
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Dec 14, 2019 07:44
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Yeah my metric is somewhere around ~* its cheaper than a boat
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Dec 14, 2019 11:19
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most the people i know have had hobbies that are a tenth of the cost of my desire for trash computer hardware
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Dec 14, 2019 12:57
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building trash computers is cool. I'm about done getting the parts for an A10 APU build and I'm looking at an FX one next, paired with like a GTX 650
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Dec 14, 2019 13:05
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The hobby is environmentally destructive as gently caress, another angle to consider
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Dec 14, 2019 14:29
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ItBreathes posted:Intel's problems ultimately stem from running their own fabs. No matter what happens, AMD isn't going to get that kind of opportunity in the GPU space. buglord posted:I used to think PC gaming was a stupid expensive hobby, and yeah PCs do cost more than consoles, but as far as adult hobbies go, its dirt cheap. ilkhan fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Dec 14, 2019 |
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Dec 14, 2019 14:51
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:The hobby is environmentally destructive as gently caress, another angle to consider Go away
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Statutory Ape posted:Go away It's more on-topic then the cost of shooting guns.
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I consider building PCs a hobby but it’s not a environmentally friendly one (or labor friendly for that matter). No ethical consumption under capitalism and all that.
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Dec 14, 2019 15:35
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Welp, picked up an RX 580 for $145 new after rebates and promo codes. Am I a sucker?
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Dec 14, 2019 19:14
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Statutory Ape posted:Go away One day you will learn to take criticism of your hobbies. Grow up.
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Dec 14, 2019 19:15
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dads friend steve posted:Welp, picked up an RX 580 for $145 new after rebates and promo codes. Am I a sucker? Naw youre good, those on-sale 580/590s are still prolly the best buy in that price range. Costs like $60 more to really step up from them.
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Dec 14, 2019 19:23
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:One day you will learn to take criticism of your hobbies. Grow up. At least in this hobby you can offset the cost of the GPUs with bitcoin mining hey bud
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Dec 14, 2019 19:30
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:One day you will learn to take criticism of your hobbies. Grow up. Actually I agree with the assessment 100% I don't really think that an enthusiast thread is the place for it on that particular issue. But by all means you can go ahead and be the one to talk about how bad gasoline is in automotive insanity
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Dec 14, 2019 19:31
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Cygni posted:Naw youre good, those on-sale 580/590s are still prolly the best buy in that price range. Costs like $60 more to really step up from them. Thanks for the feedback. I’ve never built my own pc before and researching graphics cards has been the most confusing part for me. I was mostly worried it would be a situation like “spend the extra $60 or just buy the cheapest thing that can run a 1080p monitor” but it sounds like I’ll be getting what I want - extremely decent graphics for fairly cheap E: for context, I’m coming from a 2013 Lenovo laptop with a graphics card that seemed more optimized for CAD software so this will be a gigantic step up
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Dec 14, 2019 20:11
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dads friend steve posted:Welp, picked up an RX 580 for $145 new after rebates and promo codes. Am I a sucker? Answer unclear due to schrodinger's rebate, ask again later. Statutory Ape posted:Actually I agree with the assessment 100% Also the difference between a PC enthusiast and the average person is really some "yet you participate in society" level nitpicking. A video card isn't any worse for the environment than a phone or tablet, and god knows people buy and throw away those at an astronomical rate.
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dads friend steve posted:Thanks for the feedback. I’ve never built my own pc before and researching graphics cards has been the most confusing part for me. I was mostly worried it would be a situation like “spend the extra $60 or just buy the cheapest thing that can run a 1080p monitor” but it sounds like I’ll be getting what I want - extremely decent graphics for fairly cheap You could do better buying a used GPU, but in terms of buying new it's not a terrible purchase.
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Dec 14, 2019 23:42
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Recreational shooting/guns as a hobby (excluding those who make it a compulsion) makes PC building seem cheap. Yeah this is why I went for a heavier-specced PC for my recent build. It was like, even with pretty high end stuff, it's gonna be what, $1700ish? Nothing compared to most of my long guns. And that's something that I'll use every day, unlike my rifles. At least it was warranted, since my old PC was choking a bit processing 80mp photos. This one handles them... Better, but still a bit slow. Will probably replace the used 1080Ti in it with whatever the top end of the next gen cards are, whenever those come out.
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Statutory Ape posted:This is a pretty cheap hobby as far as hobbies go. Or it certainly can be, anyway. I agree 100%. You spend, say, $2,000-2500 you can ride that for years for an amortized value of, say, $800 a year for a top of the line gaming rig. That is basically nothing. If you kept a $2,400 computer for 3 years, you're paying less than $70 a month. And that's basically top-end. So yeah I think it's hyperbolic as hell too.
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Dec 16, 2019 05:46
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I do appreciate the implicit agreement that everyone has that no one ever actually buys games to add to the cost and continues to play things from years ago on their $2400 computers.
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Dec 16, 2019 05:53
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Inept posted:I do appreciate the implicit agreement that everyone has that no one ever actually buys games to add to the cost and continues to play things from years ago on their $2400 computers. I mean, that's what a lot of people do, right? Game purchasing habits vary so wildly that you can't really pin an average there, some people sink all their hours into F2P games while others jump from one AAA title to the next. Somewhere in-between you have the sales-only purchasers who get a whole stack of games cheap from Humble Bundles or holiday sales and slowly work through the backlog until the next big sale.
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isndl posted:Somewhere in-between you have the sales-only purchasers who get a whole stack of games cheap from Humble Bundles or holiday sales
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Taima posted:I agree 100%. You spend, say, $2,000-2500 you can ride that for years for an amortized value of, say, $800 a year for a top of the line gaming rig. That is basically nothing. If you kept a $2,400 computer for 3 years, you're paying less than $70 a month. And that's basically top-end. 1/3 of that $2400 will still net a decent brand new PC, and even less when buying used. But everything is expensive for people with poor financial planning skills. I have seen some who would rather pay like 24 months x $60 instalments for a fridge than buying it outright at $600 from the get go...It's truly mind boggling how bad people can be at money. Palladium fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Dec 16, 2019 |
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Palladium posted:But everything is expensive for people with poor financial planning skills. I have seen some who would rather pay like 24 months x $60 instalments for a fridge than buying it outright at $600 from the get go...It's truly mind boggling how bad people can be at money. It's not hard to understand when the American education system conspicuously lacks any requirement whatsoever to teach even basic financial literacy in most states. Then if you're not making much money (and off the start, who is?) $60/mo might seem a lot more manageable than doing without a fridge for several months while you save up the $600. And then you get caught in the cycle of not being able to save up, because all your money is going to these rentals/loans, and you never get ahead. Then you have a kid and they grow up figuring that's just normal, and you certainly don't know wtf about money, either, and the school isn't telling anyone, and the cycle continues. It's great for corporate profits, though!
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The Rat posted:Yeah this is why I went for a heavier-specced PC for my recent build. It was like, even with pretty high end stuff, it's gonna be what, $1700ish? Nothing compared to most of my long guns. And that's something that I'll use every day, unlike my rifles. Haha, "the reason I spent more this time is that it wasn't costing anywhere near as much as my other expensive hobby" 
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DrDork posted:It's not hard to understand when the American education system conspicuously lacks any requirement whatsoever to teach even basic financial literacy in most states. Then if you're not making much money (and off the start, who is?) $60/mo might seem a lot more manageable than doing without a fridge for several months while you save up the $600. And then you get caught in the cycle of not being able to save up, because all your money is going to these rentals/loans, and you never get ahead. Then you have a kid and they grow up figuring that's just normal, and you certainly don't know wtf about money, either, and the school isn't telling anyone, and the cycle continues. I saw the following posted on Facebook recently. Seems pretty accurate and goes along with your point. 
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my other hobby is a 1979 sailboat, but I don't feel bad about spending money on that like I do when spending money on computer parts and other nerd toys
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