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genericnick posted:It's going to be Scotland trying to leave. Yeah it will be. No one in Tory leadership will want to be the one who killed the union. Also there will probably be a shitbshow in Northern Ireland. There have already been attacks in the past two years and they’ll convince themselves its best to fight that too. Seriously could see the U.K. getting very dangerous over the next decade.
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Jose posted:just lol that they're claiming being left wing can't beat trump. this was entirely the result of 4 years of the media going all in monstering corbyn and brexit. absolutely no comparison to the US where funny how they never say centrism failed when clinton lost yeah, it's dumb for a lot of reasons also the conservative party campaigned for Brexit on protecting the NHS which is their universal healthcare system which these people are claiming is too far left to even be considered in the US...so there's a bit of irony in their argument
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Sedisp posted:Corbyn had the classic problem of assuming the electorate understands what Brexit will do to them while also assuming they even cared if it meant less brown people. If anything brexit means more brown people as the loss of the migrant workforce from europe is compensated by opening up migration from outside it.
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Crowsbeak posted:Yeah it will be. No one in Tory leadership will want to be the one who killed the union. Also there will probably be a shitbshow in Northern Ireland. There have already been attacks in the past two years and they’ll convince themselves its best to fight that too. Seriously could see the U.K. getting very dangerous over the next decade. Northern Ireland can decide to have a reunification referendum without needing Westminster to approve it so that seems likely. Lol that the dup are insane unionists and their support of the Tories and brexit is going to gently caress them over
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kecske posted:If anything brexit means more brown people as the loss of the migrant workforce from europe is compensated by opening up migration from outside it. This. Tories are still a party controlled by capital and capital needs low wage easily exploited workers to import and use for agriculture as well as use in the construction of more empty buildings in London. There will be deals reached with Jamaica l, Zimbabwe and Pakistan. There will be more boatloads of foreigners, of course they will be given “guest permits” and probably made impossible to have citizenship. But more immigrants will come. Jose posted:Northern Ireland can decide to have a reunification referendum without needing Westminster to approve it so that seems likely. Lol that the dup are insane unionists and their support of the Tories and brexit is going to gently caress them over Hmmm. But no one will let Scotland have a second referendum.
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Jose posted:They don't have a good Friday agreement today's Saturday tho
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Jose posted:just lol that they're claiming being left wing can't beat trump. this was entirely the result of 4 years of the media going all in monstering corbyn and brexit. absolutely no comparison to the US where funny how they never say centrism failed when clinton lost
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Jose posted:Northern Ireland can decide to have a reunification referendum without needing Westminster to approve it so that seems likely. Lol that the dup are insane unionists and their support of the Tories and brexit is going to gently caress them over The secretary of state for NI is the one with the power to call it. The GFA states that they're supposed to do so if it appears likely that support for unification has a majority. Somehow I think giving them that much discretion may turn out to be a mistake.
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Bryter posted:The secretary of state for NI is the one with the power to call it. The GFA states that they're supposed to do so if it appears likely that support for unification has a majority. Somehow I think giving them that much discretion may turn out to be a mistake. lol awesome
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I think if the left wants to be taken seriously they should get nastier with the press. Like if they ask a leading question or for an apology just get verbally abusive. There is really no other rational reaction to the unified front of hostility, concern trolling, and d-notice puppetry.
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Dmitri-9 posted:I think if the left wants to be taken seriously they should get nastier with the press. Like if they ask a leading question or for an apology just get verbally abusive. There is really no other rational reaction to the unified front of hostility, concern trolling, and d-notice puppetry. This. Really just treat journalists like the sub human scum they are. As to be a journalist nowadays means one from a young age wanted to live a life of subservience to a sociopath while lying. Also take advantage of your bonkers deflamation laws and sue when accused of antisemitism.
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Jose posted:almost all journalists in the UK are privately educated and went to oxbridge Laura Kuenssberg is considered a plebby outsider because she only went to Edinburgh
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marktheando posted:Laura Kuenssberg is considered a plebby outsider because she only went to Edinburgh Edinburgh is quite a step below Oxbridge though, isn't it? Like, I went there and it hardly felt elite (and it has terrible student satisfaction rates which I can confirm are justified).
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Jose posted:must be why she sucks up to them so much Edinburgh, like St Andrews, is absolutely packed with posh cunts who failed to get into Oxbridge Glasgow uni supremacy Thom12255 posted:Edinburgh is quite a step below Oxbridge though, isn't it? Like, I went there and it hardly felt elite (and it has terrible student satisfaction rates which I can confirm are justified). It's one of the top universities in the country
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Heated Gaming Moment posted:Maybe this has been posted recently. If not, here you go. is brexit....bovine referendum encephalopathic x-it????
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marktheando posted:It's one of the top universities in the country I suppose it is for the Art and Humanities - I was in the Engineering College and it wasn't even the top in the city.
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Heated Gaming Moment posted:Maybe this has been posted recently. If not, here you go.
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spacemang_spliff posted:It seems to me that Labour was pretty evenly split between remain and leave and so Labour was essentially hosed considering how divided people are on remain and leave. Like there was really no way to make a coherent argument that wouldn't alienate half of Labour. Pretty much. Labour's only chance in hindsight was to get their own "get Brexit done" style message off something like the NHS or waspi or the housing problem and moved harder on investment in the North. There was never any winning an election that polarised on Brexit and this one did, hard. Labour democratically decided the policy at conference and it was obvious Jeremy was never comfortable with it. Instead we had so many policies that messaging was diluted as hell and a lot of activists didn't have a handle on the local issues on the doorstep.
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spacemang_spliff posted:yeah, it's dumb for a lot of reasons brexit is going to protect the gently caress out of nhs, i'm so stoked for all my brit sisters & brothers out there who will hopefully get to experience the full gamut of american healthcare, not only from the expected stuff like being denied coverage on a whim, but the real good stuff like having prescription medicine advertised directly to consumers. no longer will you have to sit on your couch watching tv wondering if there's a drug for pseudobulbar affect, danny glover & avanir pharmaceuticals have got you covered. they'll even pretend to be an advocacy group so you don't realize you're being hard sold!
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hallebarrysoetoro posted:brexit is going to protect the gently caress out of nhs, i'm so stoked for all my brit sisters & brothers out there who will hopefully get to experience the full gamut of american healthcare, not only from the expected stuff like being denied coverage on a whim, but the real good stuff like having prescription medicine advertised directly to consumers. no longer will you have to sit on your couch watching tv wondering if there's a drug for pseudobulbar affect, danny glover & avanir pharmaceuticals have got you covered. they'll even pretend to be an advocacy group so you don't realize you're being hard sold! Those ads are for doctors actually because you can't trust them to make decisions based off the latest medical journals and research to keep up with the current science instead of an ad where an old guy plays frisbee with a golden retriever while a cover of a 60s rock song that was originally about dying of heroin addiction plays in the background. Its sort of like the ads on the DC subway for multi-billion dollar fighter jets and missile defense systems which is also a thing that exists in our hell country
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McDonnell stepping down from frontline politics. Not going to be going for leadership or even shadow cabinet. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...t-idUSKBN1YI0BV To be honest I don't even know what kind of pool you guys have available for leadership so I hope there's some charismatic leftist firebrand in there who's just not been given the limelight yet.
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Squizzle posted:is the eu plan at this pt to just not allow brexit The EU loves being anti-democratic so this is entirely within character for them.
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Okay is "eu leadership extends forever so brexit never happens" the actual funniest outcome Other than Scotland seceding, ni joining Ireland, Wales leaving, and then Cornwall leaving of course
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silvergoose posted:Okay is "eu leadership extends forever so brexit never happens" the actual funniest outcome Imagine growing up with the British Empire and now being left with England.
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Crowsbeak posted:Yeah it will be. No one in Tory leadership will want to be the one who killed the union. Also there will probably be a shitbshow in Northern Ireland. There have already been attacks in the past two years and they’ll convince themselves its best to fight that too. Seriously could see the U.K. getting very dangerous over the next decade. Part of how the Soviet Union fell apart was secessionist Republican governments doing a tax revolt where they stopped sending funds to Moscow. If Bojo denies an Indy ref I could see that being Scotland's only option.
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Wales has been fully assimilated and will never leave England because roughly 70% of it's inhabitants are retirees from Paedoshire.
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Zedhe Khoja posted:Wales has been fully assimilated and will never leave England because roughly 70% of it's inhabitants are retirees from Paedoshire. Okay fine but I still want cornwexit
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Part of how the Soviet Union fell apart was secessionist Republican governments doing a tax revolt where they stopped sending funds to Moscow. If Bojo denies an Indy ref I could see that being Scotland's only option. I don't believe there are separate tax institutions between Scotland and the rest of the UK (excluding council tax maybe?) but I'm far from an expert.
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Phigs posted:McDonnell stepping down from frontline politics. Not going to be going for leadership or even shadow cabinet. McDonnell was never going to go for front man, he isn’t interested. One of the reasons I like him so much. Let’s hope his ideas don’t get buried, they’re awesome.
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CoolCab posted:I don't believe there are separate tax institutions between Scotland and the rest of the UK (excluding council tax maybe?) but I'm far from an expert. I think people would have to just stop paying tax like in 1989.
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The EU should blockade the channel to keep any posh cunts from leaving the cursed isle, shouldn't be hard since the royal navy has like 2 functioning ships at the moment
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Lord of Pie posted:The EU should blockade the channel to keep any posh cunts from leaving the cursed isle, shouldn't be hard since the royal navy has like 2 functioning ships at the moment Also should do a Dunkirk on all the boomers with second retirement homes on the continent.
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Lord of Pie posted:The EU should blockade the channel to keep any posh cunts from leaving the cursed isle, shouldn't be hard since the royal navy has like 2 functioning ships at the moment Easy, just convince the French to go on strike and shut down the channel ports for a few days and that would probably bring the entire south of this hell country to a standstill
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