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AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
https://twitter.com/SeanMcCarthyCom/status/1205487583746281472?s=19

What the gently caress is this take?

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Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
Fascism

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

he's a lesser getfiscal

hint:"let people enjoy things"

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
there are some weirdo academics who want to abolish the family, atheism is tiresome, and uh well the nation state still isn't good

Big Dick Cheney
Mar 30, 2007
i uhh...love my family

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Everything you learned unconsciously of how the world should be as a child is wrong and I want to abolish it

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Religion might be the opium of the masses but atheism is undeniably cringe

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Gripweed posted:

Religion might be the opium of the masses but atheism is undeniably cringe

Atheism is sleeping in on sunday.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Bip Roberts posted:

Atheism is sleeping in on sunday.

oh wow did you get that from a bumper sticker you saw in 2003?

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
Look I can understand trying to revive Liberation Theology as a way to make inroads into religious communities or aligning with persecuted minority religions but thats never what these people mean

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Gripweed posted:

oh wow did you get that from a bumper sticker you saw in 2003?

huh

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

philosophy killed god and ate it's corpse get with the program religifailures

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

AnEdgelord posted:

Look I can understand trying to revive Liberation Theology as a way to make inroads into religious communities or aligning with persecuted minority religions but thats never what these people mean

Atheism was always gonna be a failure as far as political positions go and we've known it since Marx wrote The German Ideology. It's a substitute for actually understanding theology and all the ways you can attack it ideologically. People need to better understand how to attack prosperity theology and elevate the left wing tendencies in religion. Speaking as an atheist, I don't mean that in some cynical way to trick people into socialism. There's a genuine base of shared values that need to be emphasized if we're going to eradicate degenerate bourgeois thought.

New Atheism is just prosperity theology without God. Economic "success" ends up being a marker of your own righteousness and validates your own existence. The outcome is all the same.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

T-man posted:

Everything you learned unconsciously of how the world should be as a child is wrong and I want to abolish it

thats why i type with only my two index fingers, touch typing is a cia op

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
the cringe of the masses

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Atheism was always gonna be a failure as far as political positions go and we've known it since Marx wrote The German Ideology. It's a substitute for actually understanding theology and all the ways you can attack it ideologically. People need to better understand how to attack prosperity theology and elevate the left wing tendencies in religion. Speaking as an atheist, I don't mean that in some cynical way to trick people into socialism. There's a genuine base of shared values that need to be emphasized if we're going to eradicate degenerate bourgeois thought.

New Atheism is just prosperity theology without God. Economic "success" ends up being a marker of your own righteousness and validates your own existence. The outcome is all the same.

This is largely the conclusion Ive come to as well, especially once I realized that when Marx said Opium he meant it as a painkiller that numbs the masses to their exploitation rather than as a recreational narcotic that must be kicked.

Im just very suspicious of those who talk about "preserving" or "embracing" traditional religion

Hurt Whitey Maybe
Jun 26, 2008

I mean maybe not. Or maybe. Definitely don't kill anyone.

AnEdgelord posted:

This is largely the conclusion Ive come to as well, especially once I realized that when Marx said Opium he meant it as a painkiller that numbs the masses to their exploitation rather than as a recreational narcotic that must be kicked.

Im just very suspicious of those who talk about "preserving" or "embracing" traditional religion

so what’s you’re saying is we need a fentanyl of the masses it’s fentanyl

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Dr. Killjoy posted:

he's a lesser getfiscal

hint:"let people enjoy things"

The difference is that he humorlessly defends what he posts, and his takes are consistently workerist at best

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Homeless Friend posted:

thats why i type with only my two index fingers, touch typing is a cia op

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
The keyboard layout we all use on our flat glass rectangles was designed to moderate typing speed so typewriters wouldn’t jam, like whoa

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
everyone who doesn't practice homerow will have plenty of time to learn it in the re education camps

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
I installed Audm, which is audio news articles, and folks this is pain beyond pain. Oh my God people pay to read this poo poo in text let alone audio. I feel like I'm being flayed alive by a liberal katana

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
I'm understanding Matt at a visceral level here, this is intellectual carnage

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Atheism was always gonna be a failure as far as political positions go and we've known it since Marx wrote The German Ideology. It's a substitute for actually understanding theology and all the ways you can attack it ideologically. People need to better understand how to attack prosperity theology and elevate the left wing tendencies in religion. Speaking as an atheist, I don't mean that in some cynical way to trick people into socialism. There's a genuine base of shared values that need to be emphasized if we're going to eradicate degenerate bourgeois thought.

New Atheism is just prosperity theology without God. Economic "success" ends up being a marker of your own righteousness and validates your own existence. The outcome is all the same.

As a religious person, :agreed: 100%. One of the reasons I went full Commie was because at some point I couldn’t make the cognitive dissonance between my deeply-held humanitarian values and my shitlib politics anymore.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

T-man posted:

Everything you learned unconsciously of how the world should be as a child is wrong and I want to abolish it

ABOLISH SHARING

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Atrocious Joe posted:

ABOLISH SHARING

sharing requires the concept of a single owner who is willing to extend use to others. Starting from the perspective of <x> is mine is a bad way to change the way we understand value away from the way capitalism requires us to see it. Take, say, the way "sharing" information now means that you, someone who owned your data, are now extending it to some computertoucher for use - nothing is physically transferred, but the way we understand the idea in our social context is as a commodity. Think Marx's thoughts on commodity forms, but with 200 years of extra liberal brainworms.


Can't do communism if your brain is doing capitalism. Burn it down. You're not sharing poo poo if you've gone beyond the concept of singular or groups of owners.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

T-man posted:

sharing requires the concept of a single owner who is willing to extend use to others. Starting from the perspective of <x> is mine is a bad way to change the way we understand value away from the way capitalism requires us to see it. Take, say, the way "sharing" information now means that you, someone who owned your data, are now extending it to some computertoucher for use - nothing is physically transferred, but the way we understand the idea in our social context is as a commodity. Think Marx's thoughts on commodity forms, but with 200 years of extra liberal brainworms.


Can't do communism if your brain is doing capitalism. Burn it down. You're not sharing poo poo if you've gone beyond the concept of singular or groups of owners.

no it doesn't lol animals share a watering hole that doesn't mean the hippo or the giraffe "owns" do you even think about what you're posting before you post

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ace of Baes posted:

no it doesn't lol animals share a watering hole that doesn't mean the hippo or the giraffe "owns" do you even think about what you're posting before you post

no, they don’t

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

"ownership" doesn't have a value, it's a social relationship that determines who has a title to claim value.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

T-man posted:

sharing requires the concept of a single owner who is willing to extend use to others. Starting from the perspective of <x> is mine is a bad way to change the way we understand value away from the way capitalism requires us to see it. Take, say, the way "sharing" information now means that you, someone who owned your data, are now extending it to some computertoucher for use - nothing is physically transferred, but the way we understand the idea in our social context is as a commodity. Think Marx's thoughts on commodity forms, but with 200 years of extra liberal brainworms.


Can't do communism if your brain is doing capitalism. Burn it down. You're not sharing poo poo if you've gone beyond the concept of singular or groups of owners.

easily top 10 cspam poster, there is no question

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Ace of Baes posted:

no it doesn't lol animals share a watering hole that doesn't mean the hippo or the giraffe "owns" do you even think about what you're posting before you post

Thank you for your continued quality of contributions. Please note that neither hippos nor giraffes are humans living under capitalism.


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

"ownership" doesn't have a value, it's a social relationship that determines who has a title to claim value.

I'm not sure what you mean by this? I agree. Ownership affects the we understand value.

Homeless Friend posted:

easily top 10 cspam poster, there is no question

Thank you, I'm glad to see you've come around.

Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice

Homeless Friend posted:

easily top 10 cspam poster, there is no question

Ill never forget when they went on a rant about how evil re-education camps are and suggested detaining and forcing people to take psych meds instead

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

T-man posted:

I'm not sure what you mean by this? I agree. Ownership affects the we understand value.

No, utility defines value. Ownership in itself isn't valuable. You could own a barren plot of rock and get practically 0 value from it, because values are socially determined. What I mean by ownership being a title to claim value is, owning something only entitles you to claim the extraction of value from the object being owned. It's a socially recognized claim to exclusive exploitation. You could exploit the value of something without even owning it. The value is still there regardless and it's not impacted by ownership - ownership is only a social relation that determines who can receive value.

So you can possess something without any ownership involved and still share it. The example you came up with of sharing information being seen as a commodity is plain wrong. If that information isn't packaged for sale and traded for exchange value, then it's not a commodity. It's just plain shared.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

T-man posted:

sharing requires the concept of a single owner who is willing to extend use to others. Starting from the perspective of <x> is mine is a bad way to change the way we understand value away from the way capitalism requires us to see it. Take, say, the way "sharing" information now means that you, someone who owned your data, are now extending it to some computertoucher for use - nothing is physically transferred, but the way we understand the idea in our social context is as a commodity. Think Marx's thoughts on commodity forms, but with 200 years of extra liberal brainworms.


Can't do communism if your brain is doing capitalism. Burn it down. You're not sharing poo poo if you've gone beyond the concept of singular or groups of owners.

*taps the meme they posted again*

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
tman. i cant believe I'm saying this. for the love of god read a book. your posts smack of liberalism

IDONTPOST
Apr 18, 2018




T-man posted:

sharing requires the concept of a single owner who is willing to extend use to others. Starting from the perspective of <x> is mine is a bad way to change the way we understand value away from the way capitalism requires us to see it. Take, say, the way "sharing" information now means that you, someone who owned your data, are now extending it to some computertoucher for use - nothing is physically transferred, but the way we understand the idea in our social context is as a commodity. Think Marx's thoughts on commodity forms, but with 200 years of extra liberal brainworms.


Can't do communism if your brain is doing capitalism. Burn it down. You're not sharing poo poo if you've gone beyond the concept of singular or groups of owners.

i like podcasts

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Larry Parrish posted:

tman. i cant believe I'm saying this. for the love of god read a book. your posts smack of liberalism

if they talk like a liberal and they walk like a liberal, well, you know

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Larry Parrish posted:

your posts smack of liberalism

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Majorian posted:

As a religious person, :agreed: 100%. One of the reasons I went full Commie was because at some point I couldn’t make the cognitive dissonance between my deeply-held humanitarian values and my shitlib politics anymore.

Same.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54ZrXo9jOiY :69snypa:

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