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Hauki posted:the gently caress is with arena tonight? I've been getting this as well.
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Dec 15, 2019 03:01
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I have not been getting that I assume it’s a higher power urging you to stop playing simic flash
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Dec 15, 2019 03:38
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I’ve quit paper standard for the first time since new phyrexia. I do play arena for standard and paper modern, legacy, and pauper.
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Dec 15, 2019 06:09
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Is it worth convincing tabletop casual Magic players to buy into MTGO so we can build some cheap Commander decks? We are too far apart to play in person but MTGO is so loving convoluted that I don't know how much hassle it will be getting everyone setup.
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Dec 15, 2019 07:54
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Hekk posted:Is it worth convincing tabletop casual Magic players to buy into MTGO so we can build some cheap Commander decks? We are too far apart to play in person but MTGO is so loving convoluted that I don't know how much hassle it will be getting everyone setup. If you are not already incredibly familiar with MTGO, Commander is going to be unbearable on that client. The client is so much of a burden that you're probably better off using a four way Skype video call.
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Dec 15, 2019 07:57
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Hekk posted:Is it worth convincing tabletop casual Magic players to buy into MTGO so we can build some cheap Commander decks? We are too far apart to play in person but MTGO is so loving convoluted that I don't know how much hassle it will be getting everyone setup. Multiplayer was broken and effectively useless on MTGO a while ago, dunno if it's playable again. If you're thinking about doing 1v1, you can set it to 60 minute clocks and the interface won't be too punishing. but yeah just play by camera to be honest
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Dec 15, 2019 08:17
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I got into MTGO to play online commander and use cards I can’t afford in paper. It’s clunky and janky as hell but it’s not THAT hard to get the hang of, and has some functions MTGA is sorely missing, like being able to set auto-pass on specific triggers. Or you know, a basic general auto pass that actually works. I guess it depends how much tolerance you have for clunky software
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Dec 15, 2019 09:21
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Arena's autopass system is atrocious.
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Dec 15, 2019 09:30
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for lunch today i am eating homemade beef with broccoli, plus a granola bar (chocolate chip flavor)
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Dec 15, 2019 19:25
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little munchkin posted:for lunch today i am eating homemade beef with broccoli, plus a granola bar (chocolate chip flavor) I'm doing 75 hours this week so work got everyone BBQ, it's pretty good brisket
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Dec 15, 2019 19:31
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PleasantDirge posted:I'm doing 75 hours this week so work got everyone BBQ, it's pretty good brisket Nice dude. Any sides with that?
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Dec 15, 2019 19:33
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little munchkin posted:for lunch today i am eating homemade beef with broccoli, plus a granola bar (chocolate chip flavor) I'm gonna have leftover Peposo with lentils. I've already snacked on some homemade gingersnap cookies.
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Dec 15, 2019 19:42
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lmao https://twitter.com/chosler88/status/1206247960155185152
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Dec 15, 2019 19:45
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little munchkin posted:for lunch today i am eating homemade beef with broccoli, plus a granola bar (chocolate chip flavor) I went to breakfast with santa. It was surprisingly good. PleasantDirge posted:I'm doing 75 hours this week so work got everyone BBQ, it's pretty good brisket Nice.
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Dec 15, 2019 19:45
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The end of that legacy match between syed and magalhaes was fun.
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Dec 15, 2019 20:15
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so i just got around to playing the elspeth vs ashiok arena event What the gently caress is wrong over at WotC? They made the Ashiok deck WAY loving BETTER than the Elspeth deck, and the Ashiok deck is the kind of deck that a big chunk of the MTG playerbase hates - it just kills or counters every spell the Elspeth deck plays and always has a full grip of cards. Come on Wizards this isn't that hard. Elspeth is a white weenie deck with Realm-Cloaked Giant, Decree of Justice and Knightly Valor, Ashiok is UB Control with Witch's Vengeance, Ancestral Recall and Control Magic.
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Dec 15, 2019 22:52
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Hellsau posted:so i just got around to playing the elspeth vs ashiok arena event Elspeth deck has a better win rate, as per the data. Be more aggressive in your mulligan with Elspeth for an explosive start with jewellery.
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Dec 15, 2019 23:18
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Drewjitsu posted:Elspeth deck has a better win rate, as per the data. Be more aggressive in your mulligan with Elspeth for an explosive start with jewellery. Lol, what data. There's no way WotC is giving that out.
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Dec 15, 2019 23:29
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ShadeofBlue posted:Lol, what data. There's no way WotC is giving that out. I played 3 matches and lost 2 to flooding horribly. The data shows that the Elspeth deck is better. Also lol I beat turn 1 Lotus, Sol Ring, turn 2 Archon with the Ashiok deck drawing no power. The Elspeth deck is trash and isn't even that good with power.
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Dec 15, 2019 23:37
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I wanted to get my weekly wins and had a white spells quest, so I played Elspeth all day and went 15-4. You get mana consistency and some really explosive turn 2s if you mulligan properly. I'm a loving garbage player otherwise.
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Dec 15, 2019 23:58
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Jeoh posted:I wanted to get my weekly wins and had a white spells quest, so I played Elspeth all day and went 15-4. You get mana consistency and some really explosive turn 2s if you mulligan properly. I'm a loving garbage player otherwise. t1 leonin warleader with a god's willing in hand on the play was a pretty excellent start not a lot ashiok can do about that short of dropping their own lotus
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Dec 16, 2019 00:25
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Drewjitsu posted:Elspeth deck has a better win rate, as per the data. Be more aggressive in your mulligan with Elspeth for an explosive start with jewellery. bullshit. total loving bullshit. i don't care what the gently caress wizards claims about data given their misrepresentation and outright lies and deliberate hiding of data, gently caress them and their horseshit. i played three matches with the Ashiok deck, spent a total of three minutes in the queue and ten minutes in games and got my three wins, and none of the games were close! the Elspeth deck played turn 3 Sword of Fire and Ice and it did not matter because I had black deathtouch creatures and black removal. gently caress wotc and their lies
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Dec 16, 2019 00:28
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Hellsau posted:bullshit. total loving bullshit. i don't care what the gently caress wizards claims about data given their misrepresentation and outright lies and deliberate hiding of data, gently caress them and their horseshit. i played three matches with the Ashiok deck, spent a total of three minutes in the queue and ten minutes in games and got my three wins, and none of the games were close! the Elspeth deck played turn 3 Sword of Fire and Ice and it did not matter because I had black deathtouch creatures and black removal. So uh that's some extreme vitriol there but this reddit post claims to see similar numbers in tracker app data. My own experience (being way way too impatient to wait the 5+ minutes to play Ashiok) is that I've gone 9-3 with Elspeth and the games seem more balanced than they appear at first. You can't beat a turn 2 Ashiok ever but they also have a hell of a time beating a turn 1 Leonin Warleader.
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Dec 16, 2019 00:46
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Hellsau posted:bullshit. total loving bullshit. i don't care what the gently caress wizards claims about data given their misrepresentation and outright lies and deliberate hiding of data, gently caress them and their horseshit. i played three matches with the Ashiok deck, spent a total of three minutes in the queue and ten minutes in games and got my three wins, and none of the games were close! the Elspeth deck played turn 3 Sword of Fire and Ice and it did not matter because I had black deathtouch creatures and black removal. 
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Dec 16, 2019 01:00
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Hellsau posted:bullshit. total loving bullshit. i don't care what the gently caress wizards claims about data given their misrepresentation and outright lies and deliberate hiding of data, gently caress them and their horseshit. i played three matches with the Ashiok deck, spent a total of three minutes in the queue and ten minutes in games and got my three wins, and none of the games were close! the Elspeth deck played turn 3 Sword of Fire and Ice and it did not matter because I had black deathtouch creatures and black removal. gently caress society
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Dec 16, 2019 01:12
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Hellsau posted:bullshit. total loving bullshit. i don't care what the gently caress wizards claims about data given their misrepresentation and outright lies and deliberate hiding of data, gently caress them and their horseshit. i played three matches with the Ashiok deck, spent a total of three minutes in the queue and ten minutes in games and got my three wins, and none of the games were close! the Elspeth deck played turn 3 Sword of Fire and Ice and it did not matter because I had black deathtouch creatures and black removal. Nice meltdown. I'm glad you got your wins and you never have to engage in that format again.
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Dec 16, 2019 01:13
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That was also a good post
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Dec 16, 2019 01:25
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ShaneB posted:That was also a good post https://youtu.be/5MUyJy_Utk8
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Dec 16, 2019 01:33
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When people say the Elspeth deck is better if you mulligan aggressively, they're also saying the Elspeth deck is doing better because it has the better players. Both decks can do busted unbeatable poo poo, the Elspeth players just figured out sooner that the best way to win was to mulligan into an unanswerable hand. If the third party trackers say the Elspeth deck wins more often, it's probably because the turbospikes don't want to deal with 5+ minute queues and are playing Elspeth.
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Dec 16, 2019 01:41
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I really don’t understand why people are getting so worked up over this. It’s a free event where you can queue as many times as you want with either deck for a trivial reward. The Elspeth deck sucks rear end and it literally won’t mean anything to anyone ever again after the event closes in less than 24 hours. Don’t let anger live in your heart.
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Dec 16, 2019 02:01
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I like how the Ashiok deck can power out Theif and has a better chance of playing the other deck's Power. It would be cool if they brought legacy/vintage to Arena but I don't think this event means it's right around the corner. It seems trivially easy to implement "mana rocks, but the best ones" and "much much better Divination" for a one off.
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Dec 16, 2019 02:05
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It's not a big deal but bitching at wotc for doing dumb poo poo is like the lifeblood of this thread so I don't see the harm adding complaints about current mtga events to the thread's life cycle.
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Dec 16, 2019 02:06
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Owlbear Camus posted:I like how the Ashiok deck can power out Theif and has a better chance of playing the other deck's Power. I suspect they’re just going to keep bringing them out for random events here and there like this one.
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Dec 16, 2019 02:11
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Owlbear Camus posted:I like how the Ashiok deck can power out Theif and has a better chance of playing the other deck's Power. Implementing Legacy's 200 most played cards would not be hard and the reality is there isn't a ton of point in implementing the ones outside that group.
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Dec 16, 2019 02:11
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Cube is in the concept stage for Arena, so hopefully that's why they have programmed in these old cards. Either way it was a cool event. Lmao @ everyone losing their minds about the decks and being proven wrong by stats though.
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Dec 16, 2019 02:13
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GimmickMan posted:When people say the Elspeth deck is better if you mulligan aggressively, they're also saying the Elspeth deck is doing better because it has the better players. Both decks can do busted unbeatable poo poo, the Elspeth players just figured out sooner that the best way to win was to mulligan into an unanswerable hand. It's so weird that Elspeth can mulligan aggressively but Ashiok is stuck with their opening 7 every single game
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Dec 16, 2019 02:20
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Hellsau posted:bullshit. total loving bullshit. i don't care what the gently caress wizards claims about data given their misrepresentation and outright lies and deliberate hiding of data, gently caress them and their horseshit. i played three matches with the Ashiok deck, spent a total of three minutes in the queue and ten minutes in games and got my three wins, and none of the games were close! the Elspeth deck played turn 3 Sword of Fire and Ice and it did not matter because I had black deathtouch creatures and black removal. Lmao
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Dec 16, 2019 02:23
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Lone Goat posted:It's so weird that Elspeth can mulligan aggressively but Ashiok is stuck with their opening 7 every single game you don't understand, the ashiok deck can't mulligan aggressively because it doesn't have as good card advantage mechanics as the mono-white deck
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Dec 16, 2019 02:29
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Hellsau posted:bullshit. total loving bullshit. i don't care what the gently caress wizards claims about data given their misrepresentation and outright lies and deliberate hiding of data, gently caress them and their horseshit. i played three matches with the Ashiok deck, spent a total of three minutes in the queue and ten minutes in games and got my three wins, and none of the games were close! the Elspeth deck played turn 3 Sword of Fire and Ice and it did not matter because I had black deathtouch creatures and black removal. 
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while the actual deck disparity isn't as bad as it feels, this event is hilariously on the nose for Wizards: "what if we take a mono-white aggro deck, the thing everybody has been complaining about because it's the only game plan white is allowed to have, and make it play against an obnoxious U/B control deck, the most hated archetype in the game?" they proceeded to make it slightly fairer by filling out the U/B control deck with 1/2s for 2 instead of actual control cards
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