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panascope
Mar 26, 2005

BULBASAUR posted:

One nit pick I like about the model is the driver window. It's parallel with the ground, which makes sense, instead of just being raised up on the panel like on the tankette

It’s perpendicular actually, idiot hell fucker

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Mango Polo
Aug 4, 2007

Sharks Dont Sleep posted:

Ahhhh. It’s also the artillery version of the Saber? It doesnt look Sicaran scale at all. So interesting in that the Plagueburst retroactively inspired an entire 30k tank-line.

It's a tad bigger than the Sicaran.

xutech
Mar 4, 2011

EIIST

Pics from herocon 2019

We had a massive Zone mortalis table (a giant space station above the planet), 30k battles (including doubles) and Titans all fighting over Sendec.

check out the eye of horus podcast for more details and the rundown

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5193GVHdGR/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

also some pics from seqsy heresy, a local once a month heresy meet up

https://www.instagram.com/p/B484L3XnmfL/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

https://www.instagram.com/p/B392V8mnRg-/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
drat, that giant ZM table :popeye:

Zasze
Apr 29, 2009
That's owns really hard, those tables look fantastic.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
That's good praxis, incorporating trees in ZM. I read the cover rules, mentioning shrooms and poo poo being part of cover and poo poo, but nobody ever mixes it up. It's either corridors or GTFO.

goodness
Jan 3, 2012

When the light turns green, you go. When the light turns red, you stop. But what do you do when the light turns blue with orange and lavender spots?
I'm surprised nobody has posted the new BA jump pack unit

Tiny Chalupa
Feb 14, 2012
What's considered a "good price" to find Betrayal at Calth for on Ebay these days? Would love to pick one up to get 30k going but not sure at what point I'd be better off piece mealing an army

Picked up the first 15 or so audio books of the Horus Heresy has me REALLY amped up to try it and my lady at least is interested in painting

Edit: Is MK III armour valid for Horus Heresy setting?

Tiny Chalupa fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Dec 14, 2019

Broken Record Talk
Jul 28, 2009

A three-hundred thousand degree baptism by nuclear fire;
we had it coming.

Tiny Chalupa posted:

What's considered a "good price" to find Betrayal at Calth for on Ebay these days? Would love to pick one up to get 30k going but not sure at what point I'd be better off piece mealing an army

Picked up the first 15 or so audio books of the Horus Heresy has me REALLY amped up to try it and my lady at least is interested in painting

Edit: Is MK III armour valid for Horus Heresy setting?

Mk II - VI is Heresy appropriate.

The contents of the Betrayal at Calth box, purchased separately, are $325, so I’d find the deepest discount you can get on that stuff, and use that as a guideline.

I think the cheapest I’m currently seeing if any of the sets is $240 - 250.

Tiny Chalupa
Feb 14, 2012

I was reading their next article on the Iron Hands, as I found 10 Gorgon Terminators + 20 Medusan Immortals(either breachers or Immortals will make a list at some point and I enjoy both models) + the Contemptor Dreadnaught for a good price and I'm curious....

Why assault marines? Why not Troops + a Rhino?
The Rite of War + Terminators makes perfect sense to me(that right seems super popular for a lot of legions) and I'm just trying to understand. I am reading back through the rules and the army list trying to figure this all out

Edit: thank you for the response Broken Record Talk!! I'm pricing out piecemeal vs grabbing the box at 250.
Lady is trying to decide on a Legion which will help me figure it all out

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
You can run most legions in a verity of ways. Iron Hands aren't an exception- they have great wargear and overall legion rules. Some good characters and good ROW. Troops in a rhino outflanking thanks to HotG are just one way to go. Going assault vanguard would also work. Really just depends on what you want to do with your army.

Their strength is resilience vs shooting attacks, so anything that complements that would be complementing their strengths.

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005
39 days till the first morning of LVO.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
:siren:

For those of you with secret LVO armies, post a teaser image of your sekrit during the week leading up to LVO.

It'll be fun (maximize potential for anxiety)

Beerdeer
Apr 25, 2006

Frank Herbert's Dude

BULBASAUR posted:

:siren:

For those of you with secret LVO armies, post a teaser image of your sekrit during the week leading up to LVO.

It'll be fun (maximize potential for anxiety)

No penises on the forums.

Ghazk
May 11, 2007

I can see EVERYTHING
You’re not my real dad

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

BULBASAUR posted:

:siren:

For those of you with secret LVO armies, post a teaser image of your sekrit during the week leading up to LVO.

It'll be fun (maximize potential for anxiety)

Here’s mine:

Sharks Dont Sleep
Mar 4, 2009

In pairing luxury automobiles with large predatory felines we have achieved reality ahead of schedule.

Mango Polo posted:

It's a tad bigger than the Sicaran.

Well I’m an idiot. I kinda just judged on the
baseline cockpit of the Sabre and assumed it followed that, which is a less than Rhino. But the notion that it’s in this retro 40k-30k pipeline backwards establishing something makes sense too. Whoops.

Ghazk
May 11, 2007

I can see EVERYTHING
oh hey Sabers are less than 4" wide :pcgaming:

tallkidwithglasses
Feb 7, 2006

Ghazk posted:

oh hey Sabers are less than 4" wide :pcgaming:

Between that and rhinos it ought to be possible to run ZM ironwing now

Ghazk
May 11, 2007

I can see EVERYTHING

tallkidwithglasses posted:

Between that and rhinos it ought to be possible to run ZM ironwing now

Amazing

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer
Possible, but not advised. :shepface:

tallkidwithglasses
Feb 7, 2006

Safety Factor posted:

Possible, but not advised. :shepface:

Shut up ur not my dad

Zasze
Apr 29, 2009
Gimme those boarding pods that turn into spider tanks from titandeath, forgeworld you cowards.

Ghazk
May 11, 2007

I can see EVERYTHING
Legion Nullificators and Falcon's Claws finished!

2020 goals: Better camera and light box...






Zasze
Apr 29, 2009

Ghazk posted:

Legion Nullificators and Falcon's Claws finished!

2020 goals: Better camera and light box...








Cannot have falcons claws without bird please post bird.

Ghazk
May 11, 2007

I can see EVERYTHING

Zasze posted:

Cannot have falcons claws without bird please post bird.

Working on bird

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
Odd to see traitor nullifiers, but I guess you can't really trust demons.

Ghazk
May 11, 2007

I can see EVERYTHING
Yeah, they’re there to keep their own demons in line.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
I got Sanguinius for Christmas so I guess i have to learn to paint again.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
Weird to see Traitor Custodes, but it makes sense imo

BULBASAUR fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Dec 26, 2019

gilljoy
May 3, 2009
So it turns out I hate airbushing red / candy red so 1k sons are on hold.

How does this list sound for 1k of space wolves?

Rite of war: Pride of the legion

Hq:
Centurion
Praetor

Troops
10 man vet Squad with melta
10 man vet squad with plasma

Heavy support:
5 man missile squad
Sabre / laser vinidicator.

gilljoy fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Dec 26, 2019

Hixson
Mar 27, 2009

BULBASAUR posted:

Weird to see Traitor Custodes, but it makes sense imo

Really? Where?

Tiny Chalupa
Feb 14, 2012
Curious if I'm on the right path in terms of making a Iron Hand army. Why?
Because I am so drat torn in terms of what loyalist army to do. My lady is pretty set on Alpha Legion or Thousand Sons but drat if I don't like so many of the models from Forge World.

Edit: let's see if this paste properly. Made off of BattleScribe for ZM


++ Zone Mortalis - Attacker (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [1,000pts] ++

+ Elites +

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [175pts]
. Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion
. . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Twin-linked Bolter
. . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Twin-linked Bolter

+ HQ +

Praetor, Legion [155pts]: Artificer Armour, Combi-weapon, Cyber-familiar, Digital Lasers, On Foot
. Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades
. Power Weapon: Power Axe

Praevian [105pts]: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Combi-weapon, On Foot
. Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades
. Consul
. . Praevian

+ Troops +

Gorgon Terminator Squad , Compulsory [235pts]: 2x Chainfist, 4x Gorgon Terminator, Heavy Flamer, Power Fist

Veteran Tactical Squad, Legion , Compulsory [195pts]: 9x Bolt Pistol, 8x Bolter, 9x Chainswords/Combat Blades, Flamer, 9x Veteran Space Marines, Legion
. Veteran Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Fist

+ Heavy Support +

Castellax Class Battle-Automata Maniple [135pts]: Support Unit
. Castellax class Battle-automata: Darkfire Cannon, 2x Flamer, Stock Chargers

+ Allegiance +

Legion and Allegiance: X: Iron Hands, Loyalist

Rite of War: Pride of the Legion

+ Use Playtest Rules +

Use Playtest Rules: Playtest Rules On

++ Total: [1,000pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe

Tiny Chalupa fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Dec 26, 2019

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat

Hixson posted:

Really? Where?

LVO obviously

Hixson
Mar 27, 2009

BULBASAUR posted:

LVO obviously

O so there isn’t any? I thought you were being serious, sorry

Tiny Chalupa posted:

Curious if I'm on the right path in terms of making a Iron Hand army. Why?
Because I am so drat torn in terms of what loyalist army to do. My lady is pretty set on Alpha Legion or Thousand Sons but drat if I don't like so many of the models from Forge World.

Edit: let's see if this paste properly. Made off of BattleScribe for ZM


++ Zone Mortalis - Attacker (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [1,000pts] ++

+ Elites +

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [175pts]
. Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion
. . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Twin-linked Bolter
. . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Twin-linked Bolter

+ HQ +

Praetor, Legion [155pts]: Artificer Armour, Combi-weapon, Cyber-familiar, Digital Lasers, On Foot
. Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades
. Power Weapon: Power Axe

Praevian [105pts]: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Combi-weapon, On Foot
. Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades
. Consul
. . Praevian

+ Troops +

Gorgon Terminator Squad , Compulsory [235pts]: 2x Chainfist, 4x Gorgon Terminator, Heavy Flamer, Power Fist

Veteran Tactical Squad, Legion , Compulsory [195pts]: 9x Bolt Pistol, 8x Bolter, 9x Chainswords/Combat Blades, Flamer, 9x Veteran Space Marines, Legion
. Veteran Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Fist

+ Heavy Support +

Castellax Class Battle-Automata Maniple [135pts]: Support Unit
. Castellax class Battle-automata: Darkfire Cannon, 2x Flamer, Stock Chargers

+ Allegiance +

Legion and Allegiance: X: Iron Hands, Loyalist

Rite of War: Pride of the Legion

+ Use Playtest Rules +

Use Playtest Rules: Playtest Rules On

++ Total: [1,000pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe

You’re close but I’d make a couple changes. If you aren’t going to go for a paragon blade on your praetor you may as well go for a Delegatus to save on points. You can still give him a power weapon, and he has Master of the Legion so he grants access to Rites of War.

I’d also try and give your contemptor a gun; unless you’re married to the idea of a punch only robot. A multi-melta or a kheres assault cannon would add a lot of utility, and the remaining fist would give your opponent problems in CC. You could also make him a Cortus and save a few points.

And of course i always recommend to load up on combis weapons with your vets.

tallkidwithglasses
Feb 7, 2006

gilljoy posted:

So it turns out I hate airbushing red / candy red so 1k sons are on hold.

How does this list sound for 1k of space wolves?

Rite of war: Pride of the legion

Hq:
Centurion
Praetor

Troops
10 man vet Squad with melta
10 man vet squad with plasma

Heavy support:
5 man missile squad
Sabre / laser vinidicator.

I think grey slayers are both one of the strongest parts of the SW list and also one of the things that makes them really feel “space wolfy.” I’d consider dropping the praetor and replacing the vets with slayers.

Also, sabres are FA, not heavy suppport, just for future reference.

Killer_Bees!
Dec 25, 2005

I, for one, welcome
our new insect overlords.
Buglord

Hixson posted:

O so there isn’t any? I thought you were being serious, sorry


You’re close but I’d make a couple changes. If you aren’t going to go for a paragon blade on your praetor you may as well go for a Delegatus to save on points. You can still give him a power weapon, and he has Master of the Legion so he grants access to Rites of War.

I’d also try and give your contemptor a gun; unless you’re married to the idea of a punch only robot. A multi-melta or a kheres assault cannon would add a lot of utility, and the remaining fist would give your opponent problems in CC. You could also make him a Cortus and save a few points.

And of course i always recommend to load up on combis weapons with your vets.

A contemptor cortus with a fist and a chain fist both with plasma or heavy flamers in them is mean as hell. Especially if you overcharge the cortus for +1 initiative on the charge. I totes agree for downgrading the praetor into something cheaper as the more bodies or threats you can put on the ZM table the better especially when most missions rely on splitting your forces in half at deployment. Combi weapons on vets or seekers is the business! Also anything with scout or infiltration is gold in ZM as mobility is king for objectives.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat

tallkidwithglasses posted:

I think grey slayers are both one of the strongest parts of the SW list and also one of the things that makes them really feel “space wolfy.” I’d consider dropping the praetor and replacing the vets with slayers.

Also, sabres are FA, not heavy suppport, just for future reference.

Isn't it mandatory to take grey slayers as your compulsory troops?

Zasze
Apr 29, 2009
It should also be noted grey slayers are both fluffy and total monsters in ZM.

Also deathsworn are rad as gently caress.

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tallkidwithglasses
Feb 7, 2006

BULBASAUR posted:

Isn't it mandatory to take grey slayers as your compulsory troops?

I suspected this but I wasn’t sure how it went with pride of the legion or the delegatus RoW.

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