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Landos secret superpower is that you can't stay mad at him, no matter what.
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It's a little jarring how much less stilted the dialogue is in Episode 4 compared to Episode 3. Supposedly there was some kind of dialect they were speaking in Episode 3? What a bullshit excuse. Darth Vader is a lot more emotional here than he is in other appearances, too.
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Dec 15, 2019 18:38
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Pollyanna posted:It's a little jarring how much less stilted the dialogue is in Episode 4 compared to Episode 3. Supposedly there was some kind of dialect they were speaking in Episode 3? What a bullshit excuse. the protagonists of the prequels are the powerful high-society people, the protagonists of the original trilogy are farm boys and outlaws
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Dec 15, 2019 18:42
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Are we at the acting is "wooden" and the CG looks like a PS1 game part of the prequel discussion cycle?
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Dec 15, 2019 18:54
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Pollyanna posted:It's a little jarring how much less stilted the dialogue is in Episode 4 compared to Episode 3. Supposedly there was some kind of dialect they were speaking in Episode 3? What a bullshit excuse. As others said, the more highfalutin chat makes sense for how all the upperclass people are a bunch of ineffective chumps, but on top that I love how much more emotional Vader is in Episode 4 especially at the beginning because he they made that retroactively even better with Rogue One. Like Vader JUST SAW those guys LITERALLY GET HANDED THE PLANS AND RUN OFF and this pissant is telling him they're on a diplomatic journey or whatever of course he loses it lol
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Dec 15, 2019 19:05
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Pollyanna posted:It's a little jarring how much less stilted the dialogue is in Episode 4 compared to Episode 3. The dialog in ANH is stilted as hell, dude. Vader, Leia, and Tarkin snipe at each other like they're performing in theater. The Vader and Obi-wan fight dialog is basically one-for-one on how they talk in RotS. If you want to compare the prequels against a sci-fi film with natural dialog, then ANH is about the worst film you could have picked.
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Dec 15, 2019 19:08
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Most of ANH is 3PO and Luke so far, so I'm not even talking about Leia. Tarkin hasn't showed up yet.
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Dec 15, 2019 19:12
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Grendels Dad posted:Landos secret superpower is that you can't stay mad at him, no matter what. It wasn't his fault!
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Dec 15, 2019 19:24
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Pollyanna posted:It's a little jarring how much less stilted the dialogue is in Episode 4 compared to Episode 3. Supposedly there was some kind of dialect they were speaking in Episode 3? What a bullshit excuse. You should check out some of the dialogue in the old screentests and deleted scenes. It's a lot more verbose and jargon heavy. I think 40 years of cultural osmosis has a lot to do with feeling like the original films' dialogue is more natural.
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Dec 15, 2019 19:31
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Schwarzwald posted:The dialog in ANH is stilted as hell, dude. Vader, Leia, and Tarkin snipe at each other like they're performing in theater. The Vader and Obi-wan fight dialog is basically one-for-one on how they talk in RotS. Idk dude, the obi wan Vader fight dialogue always seemed stilted to me. I do agree it's basically just a continuation of thier dialogue in 3 tho
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Dec 15, 2019 19:48
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I like the fact that if you take the cast from the OT and PT and switch their locales, they likely wouldn't fit in where they're placed. The OT crowd would think the PT people are weird and pretentious. The PT crowd would think the OT people were bumpkins without class. Both would likely be like, "These people talk funny.  ".Different economic situations mean different social scenes. The weird dialogue was actually something I think worked in the Prequels. Taking Kenobi, Sheev, and the other stately rich person accents peppered through the OT and going all in was a cool choice. Dishwasher fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Dec 15, 2019 |
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Dec 15, 2019 19:49
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Pollyanna posted:Most of ANH is 3PO and Luke so far, so I'm not even talking about Leia. Tarkin hasn't showed up yet. Famously unstilted talker Golden Robot Butler.
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Dec 15, 2019 19:51
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mandatory lesbian posted:Idk dude, the obi wan Vader fight dialogue always seemed stilted to me. That's my point.
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Dec 15, 2019 21:13
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Stilted doesn't mean the same thing as corny or overdramatic. I get how Obi-Wan's lines could be seen as overdramatic when he fights Vader--he's a space wizard after all, but they work for three reasons: They're well acted, well framed, and they're concise. But a lot of it comes from Ford and Guinness being empowered on set to workshop and take ownership of their roles.
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Dec 15, 2019 21:16
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Schwarzwald posted:That's my point. somehow i thought you were making that a separate point from talking about tarkin/leia.vader all sniping at each other, and i don't know how i thought that -_- Timeless Appeal posted:Stilted doesn't mean the same thing as corny or overdramatic. I get how Obi-Wan's lines could be seen as overdramatic when he fights Vader--he's a space wizard after all, but they work for three reasons: They're well acted, well framed, and they're concise. But a lot of it comes from Ford and Guinness being empowered on set to workshop and take ownership of their roles. i dont think its overdramatic, i just think it doesn't sound like two people talking to each other naturally. i also dont think thats a bad thing, its definitely one of the better scenes in any of the movies
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Dec 15, 2019 21:40
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Marin Karin posted:rotj loving rules and the brutality of luke going batshit and whaling on a defenseless vader like he's joe pesci in the desert is visceral There's a clip out there from a documentary that shows this scene from a distant, wide angle and even though it's just raw unprocessed footage, I felt it was even more powerful than how it was filmed. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, please repost it because I haven't been able to find it again.
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Dec 15, 2019 22:01
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I like how leia has like a soft british accent for only one or two scenes
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Dec 15, 2019 22:39
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Thats cringier than most anything from the PT
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Dec 15, 2019 22:46
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she's just code switching if you think about it
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Dec 15, 2019 22:53
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Leia is speaking in some elevated RP accent when we first see her because she's an ambassador to the Imperial Senate and mimicks the language of her stodgy English oppressors, a custom well-documented in historical colonialism. This is actually a pretty good piece of worldbuilding because it hints at a greater culture beyond what we just see in A New Hope without a three-minute explanation of why for the idiots, and if it existed in a modern Star Wars script would probably not have made the cut.
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Dec 15, 2019 23:13
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Yeah, her laying on the bench in her cell all sassy and going "Aren't you short for a storm trooper?" is an intentional gag just like her taking a gun, shooting out of cover, and then jumping into a garbage chute. She'd been framed as a damsel in distress up until that point, but oh boy, she isn't quite the princess needed saving that we thought she was! People who rag on the accent are literally missing a Shrek level joke.
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Dec 15, 2019 23:56
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now that its almost 2020 im reflecting on the best star wars content of the decade... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg_FoEy8T_A
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Dec 16, 2019 00:16
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Anybody else love it when there's an establishing shot of a planet, and there's a spaceship landing in the shot?
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Dec 16, 2019 00:17
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I thought I remembered seeing an interview where Carrie Fisher said those were the first scenes she shot and she wasn’t sure where to go with the accent yet It works for the reasons stated above but I thought it was unintentional.
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Dec 16, 2019 00:24
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Bongo Bill posted:Anybody else love it when there's an establishing shot of a planet, and there's a spaceship landing in the shot? I unironically loving love this.
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Dec 16, 2019 01:22
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This is probably a terrible description from memory but there’s a part during the trench run where it zooms in on the Death Star and pans down seamlessly into the trench and it looks so good I dunno if it’s just the special edition that makes it look that good but it works for me
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Dec 16, 2019 01:44
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How bad do you think Hans breath was after coming out of the Carbonite? Or would it be about the same? Funny how Luke tries to rattle the door when trying to escape the rancor when exactly 0 doors in the star wars universe open like they do in real life. People made a lot of the hubris shown by Luke in TLJ but here he is not a Jedi 5 minutes and he's waltzing into Jabba's palace like yo motherfucker I'm calling the shots here codo27 fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Dec 16, 2019 |
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Dec 16, 2019 01:47
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poo poo now you’re reminding me of the dudes that get super sad when the Rancor dies
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Dec 16, 2019 02:02
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SleepCousinDeath posted:poo poo now you’re reminding me of the dudes that get super sad when the Rancor dies 
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Dec 16, 2019 02:06
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codo27 posted:People made a lot of the hubris shown by Luke in TLJ but here he is not a Jedi 5 minutes and he's waltzing into Jabba's palace like yo motherfucker I'm calling the shots here The more I watch the original trilogy, the more confused I am about people who claim Luke can't possibly be hotheaded and overconfident and become angry and bitter when he fails. Luke doesn't act like a stereotypical golden knight at all - for almost every second of the original trilogy that I've seen he's brash and excitable, and gets frustrated easily. Luke's TLJ character isn't so strange in that light.
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Dec 16, 2019 02:07
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Pollyanna posted:The more I watch the original trilogy, the more confused I am about people who claim Luke can't possibly be hotheaded and overconfident and become angry and bitter when he fails. Luke doesn't act like a stereotypical golden knight at all - for almost every second of the original trilogy that I've seen he's brash and excitable, and gets frustrated easily. Luke's TLJ character isn't so strange in that light. maybe if you hadn't been watching rotj with a commentary track you wouldn't have missed the big defining scene in the throne room
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Dec 16, 2019 02:19
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Those ghouls who hang out with Palpatine. What do you suppose they talk about once Vader leaves?
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Dec 16, 2019 02:21
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codo27 posted:Those ghouls who hang out with Palpatine. What do you suppose they talk about once Vader leaves? Probably about how he's super jelly that he doesn't get to wear all red like the rest of them.
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Dec 16, 2019 02:28
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No I'm talking about the other guys you see after "your work here is finished my friend"
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Dec 16, 2019 02:31
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Is that Obi-Wan TV series still happening? Like I want that just for even the very slight possibility of force ghost Qui-Gon and the very slight possibility of Wayne Pygram Tarkin.
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Dec 16, 2019 02:32
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codo27 posted:Those ghouls who hang out with Palpatine. What do you suppose they talk about once Vader leaves? In one of the Dark Empire comics there's a scene of them gleefully destroying a bunch of clones of the Emperor so they can loving FINALLY rules this poo poo for real Jesus Christ why the gently caress is this guy around so much, gently caress. 
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Dec 16, 2019 02:33
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Neo Rasa posted:Is that Obi-Wan TV series still happening? Yes, and it’s scheduled for 2021.
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Dec 16, 2019 02:41
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Dec 16, 2019 02:41
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Ford's best acting in the whole thing are his exchanges with the ewoks. Some of the facial expressions there I'm sure he hasn't made before or since
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Colgy P. is such a dirtbag; i’m suprised he agreed to appear.
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