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Bust Rodd posted:There was a secret ENDGAME zone in SMW made up of nuclear powered platforming super levels that’s required utter mastery of the game to beat, I’d put them about on par with White Palace, but again, I only beat White Palace by combining charms to negate the gruesome walk backs and skipping about 20% of it with clever crystal dashing Where were these?
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I Said No posted:Bonebottom 
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RCarr posted:Where were these? Star road
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RCarr posted:Where were these? IIRC, without looking it up and not having played it in 15+ years, every world had both a Yoshi color to set free and secret level that was unlocked by finding secret exits out of Boo Castles. These would lead to warp pipes that would take you to one level of the secret world, and if you beat that level it would take you to the next level in the loop of 8. So it didn’t matter when you found the secret levels in your playthrough, because once you unlocked one you could basically access all of them, except some of them needed very specific Yoshis or combinations of Feathers and Fire Flowers or whatever, so often you’d beat 1-2 levels and then go back because you didn’t have red yoshi yet or something. If you beat the secret bonus levels it literally redecorates the entire game to look like Halloween and all the koopas dress up as Mario.
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On my second playthrough, I only got hit like 5-10 times but it still made me want to kill myself. "white palace is actually good man" is a tired meme.
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Mymla posted:On my second playthrough, I only got hit like 5-10 times but it still made me want to kill myself. People are allowed to like different things. Celeste got me into platformers, and I played hollow knight right after it, so I enjoyed the white palace.
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ShadeofBlue posted:People are allowed to like different things. Celeste got me into platformers, and I played hollow knight right after it, so I enjoyed the white palace. I know exactly what you're talking about. Filet mignon really got me into steak; that's why I really like hot dog.
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Arrhythmia posted:I know exactly what you're talking about. Filet mignon really got me into steak; that's why I really like hot dog. 
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Arrhythmia posted:I know exactly what you're talking about. Filet mignon really got me into steak; that's why I really like hot dog. A wiener is you
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Hollow Knight is good because it has something for everyone, not bad because it has one thing that isn't for you specifically.
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Alxprit posted:Hollow Knight is good because it has something for everyone, not bad because it has one thing that isn't for you specifically. I beat Absolute Radiance bro; I'm not saying Hollow Knight is bad.
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Dec 13, 2019 22:51
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Actually the tired meme is the "white palace is just stupid I Wanna Be the Guy level sadistic difficulty" stuff. For lots of difficult platformer players it's just another fun part of the game that takes like 20 minutes.
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White Palace is fair and if you can’t beat it you won’t have the skill set to beat the real boss and get the good ending.
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WP would be a lot less tedious if the fade out and respawn from hitting spikes wasn't so dang long. Its pretty unobtrusive the rest of the game since spikes are mostly a thing you avoid but when they're the only obstacle around it stands out like a sore thumb.
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The White Palace frustrated me a lot even though I'm experienced with platformers and the like, there were some moments that just wrecked me and I didn't know the Strats to get through or have infinite health because I was living in a vacuum for fear of spoilers. But looking back on it I appreciate the challenge of it now that it's behind me, and it let me see some pretty cool stuff in the end so it was worth it I think.
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Arrhythmia posted:I know exactly what you're talking about. Filet mignon really got me into steak; that's why I really like hot dog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLNhaAW_9mw I'm terrible at metroidvanias and I had no trouble in white palace 
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nrook posted:I would rather clear the main White Palace path 8 times than do "Tubular" once RCarr posted:Where were these? SMW was an amazing game, everyone owned it so it was taken for granted but the game was just bananas. No Wave fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Dec 14, 2019 |
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Mymla posted:On my second playthrough, I only got hit like 5-10 times but it still made me want to kill myself. It's not a meme, Hollow Knight has a great movement toolkit and feels amazing to control so I'm glad that the game has a serious platforming challenge to make you test your ability to make use of said toolkit.
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No Wave posted:Is white palace even as difficult as super mario world? Like sure PoP's final screen is downright brutal but the base one didnt even seem significantly more difficult than the queens garden platforming. White Palace is, like, a mid-game Light World level in Super Meat Boy. There are also a number of sequence breaks that are less obvious but also much easier than the main route, if you're looking for them. It is a single toe dipped in the waters of actually-hard platforming. e: which is not to say that White Palace is above criticism, retries/walkbacks should be even shorter and opportunities to heal should be built into the level design instead of requiring that you both know about and have a specific set of charms and also NOT use the other charm that is a horrible trap option that makes the experience worse. it even sort of does the heal-by-level design thing (you can farm SOUL off the little floating kingbug things) but they're only available once you're like 2/3s of the way through the area and not for every step even then but its difficulty is perfectly appropriate to its place in the game, and platforming in the abstract is good + fundamental to metroidvania gameplay Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Dec 14, 2019 |
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I’d like to see a Venn diagram of people who enjoyed/hated the white palace and people who played Celeste.
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the White Palace has some stuff I like, and some stuff I don't like
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Palace was great. Placing PoP as optional was a good choice tho.
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This is cool! From the blog updatequote:For a more specific niche, Chris Larkin has been working closely with Materia Collective to create this Piano Collections suite of products, including our favourite: This lavishly illustrated piano collections book, with the sheet music for all of Hollow Knight major tracks.
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Spotify link to the piano album: https://open.spotify.com/album/0v4vTwebMBgz0ih46nysbr?si=Jx_-MYnNSsK5WFpPNUzniw It’s real good ( and so is the White Palace)
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the white palace is easily the easiest part of hollow knight
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Nightmare King Grimm is easier
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Hwurmp posted:Nightmare King Grimm is easier Pure Vessel I haven't beaten Pure Vessel 
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Hwurmp posted:Nightmare King Grimm is easier this, but unironically grimm is an easy boss
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Lost 5,000 geo in the bee hive cause I forgot what a pain in the rear end the bench run back to the boss is.
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Cartoon Man posted:Lost 5,000 geo in the bee hive cause I forgot what a pain in the rear end the bench run back to the boss is. Did you unlock the secret bench that cuts the run back in half?
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Yeah them big bouncy loving bees that do two damage ganged up on me in the corner. I came back later with an upgraded dream nail with the recall spell.
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BBJoey posted:this, but unironically Zote, on the other hand...
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Zote is tough but the real killer is Markoth. He has no right to be as hard as he is.
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This was the first game I downloaded for the Switch I got for Christmas last year. I'm determined to finish it before the 25th but I don't think it's likely. I just got to the Queen's Garden and it doesn't feel like the end is in sight. Game's so good.
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Let’s see, there’s the bad ending, the good ending, the Grimm troupe ending, and something called godmaster which is a black hole from which you never return.
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You forgot the Mr. Mushroom ending.
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Did the flower escort quest on my replay. Didnt realize that you could preclear the path and as long as you don’t use a bench the hard enemies don’t respawn, just some easy trash mobs.
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Cartoon Man posted:Did the flower escort quest on my replay. Didnt realize that you could preclear the path and as long as you don’t use a bench the hard enemies don’t respawn, just some easy trash mobs. And if you can get through Queen's Gardens without unlocking double-jump, you also have the added benefit of the crossroads being much safer to get through.
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Cartoon Man posted:Let’s see, there’s the bad ending, the good ending, the Grimm troupe ending, and something called godmaster which is a black hole from which you never return. Don't forget the bad ending but slightly different!
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Arrhythmia posted:I know exactly what you're talking about. Filet mignon really got me into steak; that's why I really like hot dog. Hey cool, I too love inexplicably making GBS threads on what other people like
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