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Charles Bukowski posted:I can't think of who xp orbs appeal to. Some people on reddit whined that the off lane on two lane maps was boring. They're still whining about orbs too though, so 
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I'm trying to think of an upside to the EXP globe thing. I guess since you have to get within AA range of an enemy inside of their minion wave to absorb the EXP from killing that wave you'll have more brawling in lane? If you manage to kill your lane opponent and no one rotates to replace them they likely won't make it back in time to get the EXP from that wave, but it's already like that so there's nothing new tactically from that. All I can really come up with is that by making picking up EXP a thing that requires active engagement you might actually get some of the morons in QM to soak some loving EXP finally.
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Dec 1, 2019 23:09
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cmdrk posted:Abathurs hat is fine though right? So does this just gently caress over Ab who is hatting in one lane, but sitting in a bush in another? Honest question I don't play him much Yeah it removes Abathur's ability to soak two lanes at once, which is one of his big strengths.
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Dec 1, 2019 23:15
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HOTS 2020: Rise of The Lost Vikings
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Dec 2, 2019 01:00
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Yeah fenix can 1v1 quitte à few heroes with ease. Valla for sure you can just take out. What do you mean by the w cancel trick? I got stutter stepping down pretty good with him.
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Hefty posted:So I admittedly haven’t played this dead rear end game in a while and when I do I just slam pick murky so I have no idea what’s going on in the meta or w/e but what problem is this xp globe change actually trying to solve? One of the most common complaints about HOTS players is that they miss out on soak because laning is boring and starve their team of levels as a result. Changing XP from an invisible resource that you gather passively to a visible one that you have to actively gather will (in theory) better illustrate how important XP is and (ideally) encourage players to stop loving off to do something else. However, what should be a simple dopamine manipulation tweak to an established system via adding better visual feedback is instead, for some reason, a total system overhaul that's probably going to gently caress over mages and other squishy types.
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Dec 2, 2019 05:04
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fyallm posted:What do you mean by the w cancel trick? I got stutter stepping down pretty good with him. Short version: Mash the gently caress out of W and you can get about 20% increased DPS because Fenix's Weapon Mode was made poorly. Long version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4kawSK7wmA E: Quote is not edit, whoops. Oh well.
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Dec 2, 2019 05:06
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NeurosisHead posted:All I can really come up with is that by making picking up EXP a thing that requires active engagement you might actually get some of the morons in QM to soak some loving EXP finally. The healing globes are pickups and randos already completely ignore those unless they have a quest talent for them. 
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Dec 2, 2019 08:06
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Just remove the soaking phase entirely. There I "fixed" the boring part of the game noone enjoys.
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Dec 2, 2019 16:54
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stat-padding damage with Greyman vs Deathwing + Diablo + Azmodan, almost hit 100k damage with the next highest at ~40k. Dat bullet.
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Dec 4, 2019 05:47
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Deathwing is real fun. Feels good af to soar over the enemy team with his ult, then turn around and barf fire all over them. Good addition to the game, feels nice to have a truly unique character again instead of another burst damage assassin.
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Dec 4, 2019 15:09
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he's not out in EU yet so I'll have to take your word for it
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Dec 4, 2019 15:23
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Characters that will eat Deathwing going forward: Anyone with %damage or an ability that scales off health (Tychus, Malth, Greymane) Leoric: Apparently the tomb ult will block DW. His only escape at that point is popping his ult or dragon flight, and if you take the silence at 20 he's pretty screwed.
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Dec 4, 2019 15:46
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Deathwing is a stupid LOL ADC hero, of course he's fun to play. Everyone likes being the boss. He's no more vulnerable to percentage health dealers than anyone else, and has plenty of mobility and CC to deal with them. And anyone else gets stomped. The real question is why play anything else. The XP globes are a good idea but they're implemented really poorly because the collection range is like a quarter of what it was before, which has had all sorts of rebalancing effects hitting the already heavily nerfed ex-specialists.
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Dec 4, 2019 15:56
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Kaal posted:Deathwing is a stupid LOL ADC hero, of course he's fun to play. Everyone likes being the boss. He's no more vulnerable to percentage health dealers than anyone else, and has plenty of mobility and CC to deal with them. And anyone else gets stomped. The real question is why play anything else. I really don't think he has "plenty of mobility". The guy is really slow and has very little to get outside the range of attacks once they start. His attacks are very slow and have a lot of wind-up. He's not like Qhira who can just dive in, gently caress poo poo up, and lol as she runs away with more health than she entered. Doing real heavy damage with him requires a good amount of foresight. Also he is objectively more susceptible to %damage heroes than many others because of the way his health regen works. If you can whittle him down he becomes much less intimidating, and once he's in his final tier of health he has to play extremely conservatively. PantsBandit fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Dec 4, 2019 |
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Dec 4, 2019 16:00
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The real counter to deathwing is malganis's health swap ult
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Dec 4, 2019 16:19
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Polio Vax Scene posted:The real counter to deathwing is malganis's health swap ult Didn't think about this but you're absolutely right. Doesn't even need to be used in combat, hide in a bush and health swap him and he's basically out of commission, I think in those situations it might actually be better for the DW player to just suicide rather than try and claw back to full health.
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Dec 4, 2019 16:40
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Can't deathwing counter that easily with the protected on armor plate destruction talent?
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Dec 4, 2019 17:19
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that talent should not exist imo.
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Dec 4, 2019 17:27
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Repeater build Fenix with the %hp talent absolutely melts Deathwing, more than any other hero I've seen so far. But 2 heroes I've found are really great in QM (aka Deathwing v. Deathwing mode) because they do well against DW and also synergize with your own- Leoric: drain does big damage to DW, and then mithril mace + %hp damage gives you additional sustained damage and big heals. The rage cage is like soft CC on DW, and hitting multiple enemies with it also gives your own DW a nice target to annihilate since all his skills are aoe. Nazeebo: Zombies are functionally identical to the cage- traps their DW and lets yours unload on him. Slap ghost gets some good value since DW is mostly unable to get away from it, and enemies will be too focused on your DW to hit you out of it. Also people keep picking Artanis which is funny because attempting to swap DW just puts you directly in front of him without moving him at all. Matazat fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Dec 4, 2019 |
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PantsBandit posted:Leoric: Apparently the tomb ult will block DW. His only escape at that point is popping his ult or dragon flight, and if you take the silence at 20 he's pretty screwed. The 20 upgrade is useless against Deathwing, Unstoppable blocks Silence. Also if he's in Destroyer form he can just E straight through you and leave.
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Dec 4, 2019 20:29
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DW feels incredibly clunky. Like if you build an entire team around maximizing stuns or whatever I'm sure he shines but otherwise it's almost impossible to hit anything but the slowest and dumbest players. The wind ups are just too long and not being able to pivot during fire breath means all you're really getting out of it is ok to decent wave clear. I wish there was more distinction between forms too. Red icons then hit a red button to get 3 more red icons....everything is red. Kinda wish there was a talent that gets rid of permanent unstoppable but reduces all your windup poo poo by like 80% and let's you spin when breathing fire.
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Dec 4, 2019 20:49
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That self root q is just a big hit me hit me sign for every skill shot.
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Dec 4, 2019 20:59
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banned from Starbucks posted:]The wind ups are just too long and not being able to pivot during fire breath means all you're really getting out of it is ok to decent wave clear. You get more out of it than that. It's a giant area-denial tool. There are plenty of times players have to be certain locations to contest objectives/secure kills/etc in this game. That's part of the fun of the character, finding opportunities when players will have to choose between walking through the wall of fire or abandoning their goals..
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Dec 4, 2019 22:32
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I've played a few games against him and they were rear end beatings. I played frog nazeebo and got all 5 frogs to hit him almost every time. He's slow, super predictable, and has a huge hit box. Short of having a well coordinated team with him I think he's garbo. Look forward to more free wins unless he's on my team.
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Dec 4, 2019 23:03
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Deathwing costs 20,000 gold? gently caress you
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Grimdude posted:I've played a few games against him and they were rear end beatings. I played frog nazeebo and got all 5 frogs to hit him almost every time. All this means is that you can build against him by picking the handful of heroes whose abilities aren't rendered impotent by him. QM is filled with Nazeebo right now for exactly that reason. That's just dumb balancing.
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Biplane posted:Deathwing costs 20,000 gold? gently caress you Yeah.. That was a slap to the face after thinking I didn't need any more slavish quest-doing for a long time.
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Dec 5, 2019 17:55
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From the AMA, a question about crazy things we never saw:quote:My favorite was when we had the Hero Buyback system.
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Dec 6, 2019 04:05
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Give me Crazy Town, please.
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I played a Brawl today where we had three Deathwings and someone still decided to be Anduin, does that count?
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Dec 6, 2019 15:04
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Tychus just does hilarious things to Deathwing all around
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Dec 6, 2019 22:23
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I havent played hots really since it basically got dumped by blizzard but deathwing is awesome. 
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Malthael's ult is hilariously great against Deathwang.
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Anyone have any tips as playing as Deathwing? What are the best talents at the moment?
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Dec 7, 2019 19:01
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ToxicToast posted:Anyone have any tips as playing as Deathwing? What are the best talents at the moment?
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Dec 7, 2019 20:04
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Today, last hitting was added to HotS. ha ha ha ha ha.
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Dec 17, 2019 00:20
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Like above and beyond the orbs popping out or what
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George H.W. oval office posted:Like above and beyond the orbs popping out or what
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Getting the final hit always gave EXP, just outside of rare exceptions people weren't gonna notice it. Abathur could have theoretically soaked three lanes using mines.
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