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It seems a weird decision to have kylo become a ghost, insofar as this is the only type of death not yet demonstrated reversible as convenience requires. But perhaps this is merely setting up the last boundary that needs to be overcome before luke, darth vader, yoda, obi wan, and everyone come in for a huge party
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So apparently Lucas did not attend/was not invited to the premiere last night. Despite going to a lot of previous Disney SW events. Cue conspiracies.
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Dec 17, 2019 20:35
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euphronius posted:He’s old and doesn’t care ? Except he was allegedly brought on at the 11th hour to help save EP9 and had his own cut of the movie just a few weeks ago. If that was the case then there must be some bitterness to not attend the premiere when everyone else on the crew did. Shaocaholica fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Dec 17, 2019 |
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Dec 17, 2019 20:39
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Shaocaholica posted:Except he was allegedly brought on at the 11th hour to help save EP9 and had his own cut of the movie just a few weeks ago.
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Shaocaholica posted:Except he was allegedly brought on at the 11th hour to help save EP9 and had his own cut of the movie just a few weeks ago. Hahah I didn’t know that. Incredible.
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Shaocaholica posted:Except he was allegedly brought on at the 11th hour to help save EP9 and had his own cut of the movie just a few weeks ago. On the one hand, he might just be busy flipping off his rich NIMBY neighbors by building a bunch of low-income housing on his own dime. On the other hand, wow if Disney pissed off Lucas that much then poo poo is really hitting the fan behind closed doors and if details get out that might poison the brand for a long time.
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Mat Cauthon posted:On the one hand, he might just be busy flipping off his rich NIMBY neighbors by building a bunch of low-income housing on his own dime. On the other hand, wow if Disney pissed off Lucas that much then poo poo is really hitting the fan behind closed doors and if details get out that might poison the brand for a long time. Nah its OK. Brand has been poisoned for a while now. Disney needs to put this into the vault and wait a generation for the nerds to die off or develop alzheimers. The nerd kids right now are immune to it hopefully and will forget.
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It's wild that lucas was willing to do that at all considering the extent to which they put his sequel treatments in the dumpster. George it's time to 
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Shaocaholica posted:Nah its OK. Brand has been poisoned for a while now. Is it? People like the tv show and the rides at the parks. And didn’t Fallen Order do well? Idk
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What I want to know is who and when was balance brought to the force? End of 3 with Anakin who was dumped head first in both sides? End of 6 with Luke who now had the opportunity to start from scratch despite Jedi leanings? Or the end of 9 now with Rey whose training couldn't even make the final cut of the movie, doesn't know poo poo, and the suggestion of lots of force sensitive users existing out in the universe is everything being in balance?
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Shaocaholica posted:Except he was allegedly brought on at the 11th hour to help save EP9 and had his own cut of the movie just a few weeks ago. That sounds like bullshit to me.
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Granted star wars has a future as a TV franchise if the baby yoda show is any indication. The news out of the theme park/toys/games sector is mixed at best.
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nessin posted:What I want to know is who and when was balance brought to the force? End of 3 with Anakin who was dumped head first in both sides? End of 6 with Luke who now had the opportunity to start from scratch despite Jedi leanings? Or the end of 9 now with Rey whose training couldn't even make the final cut of the movie, doesn't know poo poo, and the suggestion of lots of force sensitive users existing out in the universe is everything being in balance? Lucas said balance was brought when Luke redeemed Anakin and Anakin fulfilled the prophecy by launching Sheev down a shaft, destroying the Sith once and for all.
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Mandolorian cannot be cheap. (I think is saw something like 20 mill an episode?). Probably not expect it’s quality for ever.
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nessin posted:What I want to know is who and when was balance brought to the force? End of 3 with Anakin who was dumped head first in both sides? End of 6 with Luke who now had the opportunity to start from scratch despite Jedi leanings? Or the end of 9 now with Rey whose training couldn't even make the final cut of the movie, doesn't know poo poo, and the suggestion of lots of force sensitive users existing out in the universe is everything being in balance? Anakin corrected the light overbalance by helping eliminate the Jedi and then correct the dark overbalance by yeeting Palpatine. All it took was 20 years and millions of lives lost (billions) for his kid to come along and tell him he was being a dick.
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Mat Cauthon posted:Anakin corrected the light overbalance by helping eliminate the Jedi and then correct the dark overbalance by yeeting Palpatine. All it took was 20 years and millions of lives lost (billions) for his kid to come along and tell him he was being a dick. 'light overbalance' isn't a thing in the lucas films, EU poo poo has tried to make it into a dumb centrist 'white people badly understanding yin-yang' grey jedi nonsense but as far as the OT and ST are concerned there's just the force and balance means removing people who use it for evil ends
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euphronius posted:Mandolorian cannot be cheap. (I think is saw something like 20 mill an episode?). Probably not expect it’s quality for ever.
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FlamingLiberal posted:It’s Disney Plus’s marquee show, it will probably keep that budget. It’s $20 mil/episode and there are 8 episodes, so it’s about as expensive as a regular Star Wars movie I meant past the mandolorian. Plus Favreau is an A+ talent leading it. Which won’t always happen.
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#ReleaseTheLucasCut
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John Wick of Dogs posted:#ReleaseTheLucasCut This summer, only on D+. What would SW movies be without Lucas adding poo poo after the fact.
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mastershakeman posted:Also can we blame kennedy at all for this disaster of five movies or is that not allowed Who the gently caress knows at this point. She has decades of experience, has produced good films in the past, so it'd be weird that she'd forget all that for a few movies. Studio exec pressure, nobody but Feige actually knowing how to stumble upon a cinematic universe, a gently caress ton of other possibilities.
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I liked that Anakin murdering the Jedi was a hilarious way to balance the force but I can live with balance essentially being a normal person with emotions both anger and calm in check.
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Brother Entropy posted:'light overbalance' isn't a thing in the lucas films, EU poo poo has tried to make it into a dumb centrist 'white people badly understanding yin-yang' grey jedi nonsense but as far as the OT and ST are concerned there's just the force and balance means removing people who use it for evil ends Isn't it explicit stated in ROTS that the Jedi being so numerous and complacent was part of the reason that Sidious was able to do his thing? Also while the sequels have been super inconsistent there's been a theme of Dark and Light "rising to meet the other". Not disagreeing with your point overall but it seems like the framing so far has been that neither side should be allowed to be too powerful, but Light is generally given some space to grow as long as those individuals are keeping themselves in check and balancing their own emotions (i.e. using anger as motivation do to the right thing rather than being corrupted by it).
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Adam Driver: Please, Kathleen Kennedy! I don't wanna go! (Don't shoot me into outer space)
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The light side wasn’t even in the prequels or the ot iirc. The dark side was a perversion or violence in the Force which threw it out of wack and getting rid of Sith (and the Jedi of that period who were also into the dark side) put everything right. Or so that is how I interpreted it. The force awakens changes this.
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Shaocaholica posted:Except he was allegedly brought on at the 11th hour to help save EP9 and had his own cut of the movie just a few weeks ago. https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/12/09/rumor-disney-will-not-use-rumored-george-lucas-cut-of-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker/ quote:Doomcock adds, “This cut allegedly consists of 30 or so minutes of additional footage and contains a brilliant idea from the mind of George Lucas, a secret Skywalker.” 
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Please come back, George Lucas. Save us from this madness.
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Please, Mrs. Kennedy, I just want to go (yeet my role into a big-rear end pit) oh oh
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More juicy, completely unsubstantiated rumor: https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/star-wars-rise-skywalker-test-screenings-disaster-george-lucas/ quote:The last entry in the Skywalker Saga not only promises to wrap up the Sequel Trilogy, but also bring the ancient conflict between the Jedi and the Sith to its definitive end. One would assume that’s a lot of threads to weave together in a single movie, and they’d be right. It would seem that fans have been worried for all the right reasons, as a new rumor claims that early test screenings were so disastrous that Disney CEO Bob Iger promptly asked director J.J. Abrams to redo much of the film and even asked George Lucas to come in and make some changes.
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Lmao if Lucas gets a credit as editor
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You know things are going well when everyone is biting on, "This version is soso, but there's a better version out there we weren't allowed to see ... that George Lucas EDITED."
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Cheesus posted:What the everloving gently caress are you talking abou--- article posted:He continues, “Pending further confirmation, my source informs me that the George Lucas cut could be a redeeming light at the end of this soy soaked agenda darkened, canon destroy tunnel.” Seems legit. e: my star wars villain name is "canon destroy"
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Cheesus posted:More juicy, completely unsubstantiated rumor: i hate disney star wars but this still sounds fake as gently caress
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Cheesus posted:More juicy, completely unsubstantiated rumor: quote:The rumor suggests that Lucas incorporated elements from both versions and edited the finale, introducing a secret Skywalker in the third act. This garnered a much more positive reaction and received the best score (88). Well, if one considers Kylo to be the "secret" Skywalker (which he basically is) then this at least checks out.
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The parallels between how the human mind operates when it comes to religion and now modern fictional universes will never not cease to amaze me.
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We should trust the name "Doomcock" of course. I want to see an interview with Abrams that has the question beginning with, "According to YouTuber Doomcock, there exists an edit from Lucas that..."
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How the gently caress can Lucas make a cut about a new secret Skywalker with existing footage, if that wasn't one of the initial plans that JJ discarded mid-filming -or- what's what some of the reshoots were for? If former was the basis, then really what the gently caress. --edit: If true, anyway.
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