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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Plank Sanction posted:

In an absolutely tiny nugget of good news in these dark times, Wings Over Scotland (Somerset based failed Commodore Amiga game journalist turned part time Scottish independence campaigner / full time prick) has been permanently banned from twitter for Glinner-level transphobia.

This is extremely good news if you favour independence. The man was a liability to put it lightly.
Look forward his blue tick on Glindr.

e:

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ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
I don't know if any of you guys happen to know both Glasgow and London, but on the off chance: I've been really struggling to find any bars with a kind of Flying Duck/CCA quiet hipster-but-not-too-aloof-or-expensive dive bar vibe down here, most drinking establishments seem to be either very traditional (and often touristy) pub pubs or uber-fancy cocktail places with very little in between, and all are absolutely rammed on a friday/saturday. It seems pretty impossible that such places don't exist but the city is too big to just wander about hoping to stumble into one. Any advice welcome, getting sick of Spoons whenever my partner visits!

Crab Battle
Jan 16, 2010

Haha! Yeah!

Braggart posted:

Weakness. They are going fash, which is all about strength. Make them look weak and pathetic and you start to break them.

Plenty of people already hate Boris. We need to make the gammons lose respect for him.

Tie the whole cabinet and party to him (I'm sure he'll help) and take the strongman down :getin:

I'm not entirely sure this will be straightforward. This is something we all said about the Parliamentary shenanigans over the last few months, with Boris losing all his votes and Bercow/opposition basically running things. That seems to have let Boris run as an opposition candidate, with people blaming everyone else for being obstacles.

I'd hope it would be different with him in majority, but a similar thing could happen when the EU doesn't just roll over for him.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
he should have done a loving purge

https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1207011851239866369?s=20

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Plank Sanction posted:

In an absolutely tiny nugget of good news in these dark times, Wings Over Scotland (Somerset based failed Commodore Amiga game journalist turned part time Scottish independence campaigner / full time prick) has been permanently banned from twitter for Glinner-level transphobia.

This is extremely good news if you favour independence. The man was a liability to put it lightly.

Fortunately for Wankover Shithead, Glinner just launched Glindr:


TRIXNET
Jun 6, 2004

META AS FUCK.

ThomasPaine posted:

I don't know if any of you guys happen to know both Glasgow and London, but on the off chance: I've been really struggling to find any bars with a kind of Flying Duck/CCA quiet hipster-but-not-too-aloof-or-expensive dive bar vibe down here, most drinking establishments seem to be either very traditional (and often touristy) pub pubs or uber-fancy cocktail places with very little in between, and all are absolutely rammed on a friday/saturday. It seems pretty impossible that such places don't exist but the city is too big to just wander about hoping to stumble into one. Any advice welcome, getting sick of Spoons whenever my partner visits!

I know both and I can suggest Bermondsey 'beer mile' is worth a look into as there is about 30 microbrewery type places along the railway arches and they (some) have Flying Duck vibes and some do food (some not so much). Start at Doodle Bar and work your way along! :)

(they don't just have beer there is wine and gin places too, also a great Mexican taco place)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Braggart posted:

Fortunately for Wankover Shithead, Glinner just launched Glindr:



When you're running the same model as gab and still think you're the oppressed minority.

e: lmao I think it's actually even the same underlying code.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

tritsch posted:

I know both and I can suggest Bermondsey 'beer mile' is worth a look into as there is about 30 microbrewery type places along the railway arches and they (some) have Flying Duck vibes and some do food (some not so much). Start at Doodle Bar and work your way along! :)

(they don't just have beer there is wine and gin places too, also a great Mexican taco place)

Exactly what I'm looking for, thanks! I take it they're all pretty pricey given how central they are?

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Plank Sanction posted:

In an absolutely tiny nugget of good news in these dark times, Wings Over Scotland (Somerset based failed Commodore Amiga game journalist turned part time Scottish independence campaigner / full time prick) has been permanently banned from twitter for Glinner-level transphobia.

This is extremely good news if you favour independence. The man was a liability to put it lightly.

i looked at his website so nobody else has to, and he has defended himself by posting screenshots of numerous reports made on his posts previously that were not deemed worthy of action by twitter, towards the general narrative that he is being unfairly targeted by people who will report him no matter what for merely questioning trans ideology

the fact that the posts in question are all clearly vile garbage is lost on him

right well now i need a shower

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

they also stopped a bunch of them from losing their seats in 2017

oh well

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
can the next leader please be left-wing and also mean and willing to kick some heads, thank you

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

GordonTheDeadFish posted:

I'm not entirely sure this will be straightforward. This is something we all said about the Parliamentary shenanigans over the last few months, with Boris losing all his votes and Bercow/opposition basically running things. That seems to have let Boris run as an opposition candidate, with people blaming everyone else for being obstacles.

I'd hope it would be different with him in majority, but a similar thing could happen when the EU doesn't just roll over for him.

Ah but that's not what I mean. The Tories are going full strongman fash, which is why they can shrug off everything that leftists hate about them. My thinking is that we attack their image of being strong and powerful.

Braggart posted:

Purple Prince posted:

On nationalism and the leadership, what are the odds of Boris going full Trump against a female Labour leader and talking about how his Strong Virile Brexit will Split the World Wide Open? Seems like the sort of thing that would lead to a lot of outrage over misogyny but be great fuel for gammon man.

On the Brexit extension law: I'm so glad I'm leaving the UK.

If he tries that then the Labour Leader should respond by ridiculing his masculinity. Hit him where it hurts. Yeah, I know, that's lovely, but:

A) Who gives a gently caress about Boris' feelings? Angry upset Boris will make unforced mistakes.
B) Gammons really care about that kind of rubbish. If a Tory is trying to set himself up as a big masculine man who will protect us all, we need to attack that in a way that will resonate with the target audience. We can't just allow underhand tactics to work because the high ground doesn't allow for a response.
C) The media loves scandal and drama. Make the story about Boris being a pathetic ageing schoolboy who can't hack it against a vibrant young leftie. We're being mean? Who cares? It shows we have no respect for Johnson and hits right at something he's trying to make into a strength. How's your strongman gonna strong if he can't even live up to your dumb sexist ideals?

Frankly I think it would do more to discredit these ingrained sexist ideas than entrench them anyway, and ignoring them is just going to let them entrench themselves.

Braggart posted:

Like, seriously, the Right's response to "look how terrible they are!" is to revel in it. Of course the snowflakes think we're terrible - we're strong serious REAL MEN (+ miscellaneous). We tell it like it is.

The response to that should be contempt. And when they whine about it, go: "Oh sorry, did that hurt your feelings? What happened to the big strong man you said you were? What's with the sudden flip into crying about mean lefties?"

Looking weak is the worst possible thing for their credibility with their base. Let's make it happen.

Longer post on media interaction approach.

Post about using Boris' father to highlight how cowardly he is.


The standard leftist ways of discrediting Tories work on lefties, but they don't work on gammons. Boris is trying to cultivate a strongman image, so let's mock him avoiding interviews, hiding in a fridge, sending his dad to a debate he was scared of and so on. Hammer the message that he's actually a pathetic wimp. That's what would work on gammons.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

GordonTheDeadFish posted:

I'm not entirely sure this will be straightforward. This is something we all said about the Parliamentary shenanigans over the last few months, with Boris losing all his votes and Bercow/opposition basically running things. That seems to have let Boris run as an opposition candidate, with people blaming everyone else for being obstacles.

I'd hope it would be different with him in majority, but a similar thing could happen when the EU doesn't just roll over for him.

is there even one boris voter who voted for boris with the sincere expectation he's gonna deliver anything beyond bridge plans and methane

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
Not contacting all the MPs who lost their seats is the sort of own goal that Corbyn & co did have a habit of scoring every so often...

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider
The question of mandatory reselection can be reopened once Corbyn's gone, surely? :yeshaha:

TRIXNET
Jun 6, 2004

META AS FUCK.

ThomasPaine posted:

Exactly what I'm looking for, thanks! I take it they're all pretty pricey given how central they are?

Yeah I mean it's not gonna be 'spoons in price but look on the bright side, it's not gonna be 'spoons! I don't think it's particuarly over priced though considering where and what it is though (and cheaper and nicer than actual westend/central/shoreditch).

TRIXNET fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Dec 17, 2019

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



MikeCrotch posted:

they also stopped a bunch of them from losing their seats in 2017

oh well

I do wonder if whoever is tweeting is actually a Corbyn ally because it's making them all look like children. They're trying to win an internal Labour election within weeks ffs. The lack is self awareness is just wow.

Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Dec 17, 2019

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




Braggart posted:

The standard leftist ways of discrediting Tories work on lefties, but they don't work on gammons. Boris is trying to cultivate a strongman image, so let's mock him avoiding interviews, hiding in a fridge, sending his dad to a debate he was scared of and so on. Hammer the message that he's actually a pathetic wimp. That's what would work on gammons.

You must have missed this happening during the election and no one giving a poo poo because BREXIT

Attacking the right on morals or "credit" doesn't work since they have neither and it rarely cuts through. Character assassinations like the one done on Corbyn has some effect but it takes a long time for it to set in and that's with it being drip fed through the media, not whatever clever memes we tweet on Facebook.

You undermine the Tories by, as mentioned, communicating at local level, bypassing the media machine and reminding people what the Tories do to them as they do it. Perhaps some form of newsletter tailored to constituencies "The Tory So Far".

NinpoEspiritoSanto fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Dec 17, 2019

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Guavanaut posted:

How many beyonds died to make it?

Miftan posted:

Beyonders don't really die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mx4RE3jrTs

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

seeing a lot of stuff on twitter catastrophizing the whole thing, seems like a lot of late teens/early 20s folk were convinced we were gonna elect socialism here. how to even begin to explain the manifesto was really just to bring our poo poo up to eye level with the kind of infrastructure and investment euro capitalist countries like german and the nordic nations take for granted? really worried a lot of them are so turned off they're gonna give up on engaging at all. i wish someone had had a word sooner and told them socialism isn't something you can simply vote into power, electoralism is only one part of what this game is. feel so bad for them.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
The fact so many people thought socdem lite Corbyn was SOCIALISMS!!! really should tell you everything you need to know about the general state of public understanding of politics i.e. it's absolute poo poo

I mean seriously the answer is "read about socialism on wikipedia", not even telling people to read Das Kapital but I swear they all just snort at me like I'm telling them to get a degree

Pelican Street
Nov 5, 2009

Debbie Does Dagon posted:

I'm vegan. Half of the time I'm eating burgers and chips. It's kind of a myth that vegans eat just salads, or even healthily for that matter. When they come for the spuds and chick peas I'll be hosed though, admittedly

Absolutely, and if you live in a city you're not exactly spoilt for choice for vegan junk food. It's delicious!

There are so many good substitutes for meat and cheese nowadays - it's eggs I miss. Nothing can replicate a fried egg. :(

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Bundy posted:

You must have missed this happening during the election and no one giving a poo poo because BREXIT

Attacking the right on morals or "credit" doesn't work since they have neither and it rarely cuts through. Character assassinations like the one done on Corbyn has some effect but it takes a long time for it to set in and that's with it being drip fed through the media, not whatever clever memes we tweet on Facebook.

You undermine the Tories by, as mentioned, communicating at local level, bypassing the media machine and reminding people what the Tories do to them as they do it. Perhaps some form of newsletter tailored to constituencies "The Tory So Far".

Yes you do that too. Your suggestion is entirely separate from mine, and I agree with it.

I am specifically arguing that attacks on morals are not the way to go. We tried it during the election. It outraged lefties but the gammons didn't care because Boris is a strongman who cuts through the bullshit and Gets Brexit Done.

Memes don't work for this. I am not arguing for anything we've tried. What we've tried was preaching to the converted and didn't cut through. It was the same mistake the Democrats made against Trump.

I am arguing that public figures from the Labour party should take a more combative approach to the media and answer any attempted gotcha with a quick answer followed by "and here's why the Tories are worse on that issue, why aren't you reporting on that?"

We cannot trust the media at all, so we must undermine their message and push our own: that the media doesn't care about or report on Tory evildoing, which is far worse than what they're pretending to be outraged by.

Boris is crafting a persona as a fash strongman. I am arguing that Labour should constantly try to make him look weak, because that's how you disempower fash. Not us. Not memes. Labour public figures, loudly calling out Tory atrocities and media complicity, all of the time.

As a bonus it makes Labour look more vibrant and feisty, not like the doddering twits the media would like to portray us as.

Should we play up to being effective commies, or ineffective ones? We don't really have a third option.


Edit: Let me put it this way: Lefties gonna leftie. They will handle getting each other outraged about the Tories. We need a way to undermine the Tories to their base, and leftie memes are not the way to do it. You have to gently caress with what's important to the gammons.

Braggart fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Dec 17, 2019

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Pablo Bluth posted:

Not contacting all the MPs who lost their seats is the sort of own goal that Corbyn & co did have a habit of scoring every so often...

I can't imagine why Corbyn might not want to ring up Caroline Flint and thank her for all her hard service

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
hmm. blue labour appearing a bit suspect apparently, couple of threads from Loki

https://twitter.com/Lokinash06/status/1206725638889070592

https://twitter.com/Lokinash06/status/1206972526078939138

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Pablo Bluth posted:

Not contacting all the MPs who lost their seats is the sort of own goal that Corbyn & co did have a habit of scoring every so often...

what evidence is there of this except a bunch of poo poo MPs that shouldn't be trusted saying its so? labour staff have already said he didn't thank them when its one of the first things he did

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Excellent reason to make sure Lisa Nandy stays way the gently caress away from anything remotely resembling the levers of power:

https://twitter.com/thecarpetface/status/1206751487281565696?s=21

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Darth Walrus posted:

Excellent reason to make sure Lisa Nandy stays way the gently caress away from anything remotely resembling the levers of power:

https://twitter.com/thecarpetface/status/1206751487281565696?s=21

erm is that the Brexit Party MEP Claire Fox?

e: yes, yes it is

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
ahahaha Claire Fox turning up yet again

also yes, keep Lisa Nandy well away from the leadership

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

Julio Cruz posted:

erm is that the Brexit Party MEP Claire Fox?

e: yes, yes it is

Spiked / RCP cultist Claire Fox, yes.

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


In happier news, after a marathon cooking session since Friday and the whole of today spent packaging it, the first wave of fudge orders are shipping tomorrow morning.

Thank you so much to the generous goons who placed orders- particularly to the gentleman who made my largest order by some margin! Please don’t eat it all at once!

https://imgur.com/a/TLYPT0M

Camrath fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Dec 17, 2019

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Camrath posted:

In happier news, after a marathon cooking session since Friday and the whole of today spent packaging it, the first wave of fudge orders are shipping tomorrow morning.

Thank you so much to the generous goons who placed orders- particularly to the gentleman who made my largest order by some margin! Please don’t eat it all at once! ;)

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/TLYPT0M

getting memories of louisgod's goon jerky orders

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Jose posted:

getting memories of louisgod's goon jerky orders

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




Camrath posted:

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

It's a funny thing

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Jose posted:

getting memories of louisgod's goon jerky orders
"what"

CGI Stardust fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Dec 17, 2019

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Camrath posted:

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

former games mod Louisgod ordered 47lbs of fatty fiery jerky from another goon over 22 months. this is the ancient fyad thread about it https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3278514&pagenumber=2

his orders https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=1457686&userid=42569

Lobster God
Nov 5, 2008

Pochoclo posted:

UK education question - if, say, a 16 year old foreigner with unfinished (latin american style) high school (which runs from 13 to 18 and you only get a degree at the end), comes into the UK, what's the way to go? Getting private tutoring for GCSEs and then doing some? And then going for college / sixth form?

I have no idea how the UK system works - is it just GCSEs and A levels that employers care about? Is there no high school degree at all? What about international high school degrees (not EU)? Are those recognised somehow?

Yeah, someone with unfinished qualifications would probably be best off doing GCSEs and A Levels. Employers would expect to see GCSE English and Maths as a bare minimum.

International qualifications are recognised, but you might have to pay for an equivalency certificate from UK NARIC. If applying for jobs make it clear what the grading system was on their CV so the employer doesn't have to figure it out themselves (because they won't bother).

The exact level of equivalency would depend on the education system. My gut feeling would be that most Latin American school leaving degrees would be the equivalent of GCSE and you'd prob have to do A Levels or a foundation year before any higher education

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Jose posted:

former games mod Louisgod ordered 47lbs of fatty fiery jerky from another goon over 22 months. this is the ancient fyad thread about it https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3278514&pagenumber=2

his orders https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=1457686&userid=42569

Goddamn.

Tbh though I’d have done the same though. Jerky addict here.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Camrath posted:

Goddamn.

Tbh though I’d have done the same though. Jerky addict here.

its the bit where eh wants the fattiest jerky possible but lay off the salt lol. jerky does own and is probably the single best bit of travelling around the US that its everywhere and cheap

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Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;
There’s a South African shop in Christchurch that does four types of stokkie and if I drive past it hoovers my wallet

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