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I want jessflips to run just so I can put her dead loving last on my ballot.
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Purple Prince posted:To be honest it sounds like Monbiot trying to rebrand leftist ideas to make them more palatable to greens and other eco warriors. Oh, possibly. I was just running with the phrase for lols.
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I'm poring myself over what the Conservatives did post 1997. Not necessarily for good ideas but just to remind myself that this cycle of party division and bickering after a landslide is normal and cool.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:PR would also ensure the left never get in government ever again so it's a bad idea imo. FPTP hasn’t been particularly great looking at the last 40 years.
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Jel Shaker posted:Very specific hashtag there The latest Chapo covers this in some depth.
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At this point our only chance is to become the kind of totalitarian military state they think we are. I say we push the Conservatives into relaxing gun laws and try to get ahead of the gammon gun owners with new left wing militias. Or just calm the heck down and rebuild the party like the Tories had to under Blair.
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Azza Bamboo posted:At this point our only chance is to become the kind of totalitarian military state they think we are. I say we push the Conservatives into relaxing gun laws and try to get ahead of the gammon gun owners with new left wing militias. You mean actually do the Stalinist purges instead of the melts just crying that we were?
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Gonzo McFee posted:The media's continued attempts to rehabilitate Tony Blair only to get really pissed off when everyone calls him a war criminal is hilarious to me. 
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Azza Bamboo posted:At this point our only chance is to become the kind of totalitarian military state they think we are. I say we push the Conservatives into relaxing gun laws and try to get ahead of the gammon gun owners with new left wing militias.  Manic_Misanthrope posted:You mean actually do the Stalinist purges instead of the melts just crying that we were?
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Guavanaut posted:I mean if they're going to claim it either way... 
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The likely possibility for PR is Labour, Lib Dems and Greens all pledging to do it when next in power. It can't be a big platform though because it not particularly popular outside of wonk circles. It makes sense for Labour now because of the loss of Scotland and the ex-industrial seats, while Labour is getting huge majorities in cities. PR would make it worth running up the score there
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I'm a bit fuck8ng sick of being a son. If you didn't have a Tory Dad you would have been on the streets This is abusive, no?
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Why PR and not ranked-choice? because the minute the press see any voting system which isn't "put an X in a box" they'll start screaming to the high heavens about how complicated a system it is
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Dec 18, 2019 19:33
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You can spot all the people in this thread who don't keep up with climate change news. They're the ones talking about "next election"
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Tarnop posted:You can spot all the people in this thread who don't keep up with climate change news. They're the ones talking about "next election" Australian meteorologists managing to get deep purple as an accepted heat map colour as there’s smoke on the water in all of the major cities is a pretty good gag though.
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Trickjaw posted:I'm a bit fuck8ng sick of being a son. If you didn't have a Tory Dad you would have been on the streets Yes. Just because you're related to them doesn't mean you have to tolerate them in your life.
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Tesseraction posted:otoh lmao https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/18/theres-no-chance-now-how-the-peoples-vote-movement-died quote:Various attempts were made by Umunna and allies for him to chair the organisation early on, but there was sharp pushback elsewhere from people who believed that giving the then-Labour dissident too much power was a mistake.
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Can someone catch me up on why Scottish labor is so bad? Isn’t Scotland an extremely left wing part of the UK? I mean Mark Blyth is from there.
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:You mean actually do the Stalinist purges instead of the melts just crying that we were? Unironically yes
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No it's fine because by leaving the EU we'll escape all the eco-fascism and migrant crackdowns that are coming in the next ten years from climate refugees. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/18/europe-humanitarian-crisis-brussels-refugees quote:Once I passed the official barracks that house officials from the Greek ministry of citizen protection, I was met with rows of tents, halls, housing made of plastic – it looked like a construction site. And then I became aware of the smell, the result of people crowded in small spaces with limited access to sanitation. Beyond the confines of the actual camp, there was even more chaos, with homemade tents and piles of garbage. Can't corral immigrants into camps if the fugees can't reach you *children of men but the tapping head meme* (Nobody, but nobody has a plan for what to do when the current 'trickle' of refugees becomes a torrent. Socialism or Barbarism, baby.)
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Tarnop posted:You can spot all the people in this thread who don't keep up with climate change news. They're the ones talking about "next election"
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This is a great article assessing why Jessflips is bad: http://gal-dem.com/heres-why-weve-got-no-time-for-jess-phillips/
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Trickjaw posted:I'm a bit fuck8ng sick of being a son. If you didn't have a Tory Dad you would have been on the streets I can't tell who said what here, if "being a son" is meant to be "having a son" or if the only thing said was "If you didn't have a Tory Dad you would have been on the streets" and I have no idea what led up to this in the argument. This is probably not the best place to get confirmation whether or not your father is being actually abusive in a political argument, or whether your dad feels disrespected by something you've said and this is more of a "if it weren't for me providing for you, you wouldn't have eaten" etc etc. Not stanning anyone, just I'm a dad and have a dad and have had arguments in both positions! AND have said poo poo like "watch your tone, I'm owed more respect than that" etc.
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as long as they can be trusted to push an anti-austerity platform that looks absolutely nothing like the muddled garbage in the LD manifesto i dont really care what the leaders personal politics are, i'll wait to see the hustings or whatever. e i feel like they can't be a close corbyn associate though, I hear thats true of RLB but I have no impression of her or like, any of these people, yet apart from jessflaps and kier who looks like hes gonna cry at all times but i hear is smort
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Kraftwerk posted:Can someone catch me up on why Scottish labor is so bad? Isn’t Scotland an extremely left wing part of the UK? I mean Mark Blyth is from there. They basically knew they had Labour safe, so it was all party apparatchiks that were selected in the Blair years. Same issue as Wales. There's some good socialists making more waves now, but in many seats, if you vote Labour instead of SNP, you might risk the Tories, and the SNP are more left than the ScotLab blairites.
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Tarnop posted:You can spot all the people in this thread who don't keep up with climate change news. They're the ones talking about "next election" I had to leave the climate thread when I realised it was a suicidal ideation thread with extra steps
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mehall posted:They basically knew they had Labour safe, so it was all party apparatchiks that were selected in the Blair years. Desolation Radio also made the point that we are in an unusual phase in British politics where the radical left is throwing its weight behind the Labour party and electoralism - in Scotland the SNP and independence in general has captured a lot of that energy. It remains to be seen whether people in England are gonna move onto something else as well, I guess it depends on how the leadership battle shakes out.
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https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1206963968574709760?s=19 got a feeling the severity of the institutionalised antisemitism they find will depend entirely on if labour elect a leader they like
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escapegoat posted:True, but when he did eventually step down he was able to use his pact with Brown to save face, and quit-while-ahead by getting out just before the recession. I see both featured twitter accounts in that article have now edited their screen names to feature goatse Godspeed goons, godspeed
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In capitalism news, https://twitter.com/DaveVescio/status/1207028149873082368
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:In capitalism news, An exciting opportunity for me to sell 13 degree door wedges on etsy.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:In capitalism news, I think this was either fake or some no-name idiot's pipe-dream? Either way, it didn't seem to be a serious thing.
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As if people aren't spending millions on some idiot's literal pipe dream in the form of the musktunnel.
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Julio Cruz posted:because the minute the press see any voting system which isn't "put an X in a box" they'll start screaming to the high heavens about how complicated a system it is and they're right. pr best, also simplest 
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