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InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
I'm afraid I'm terrible at selling cars anyway, but I usually put stuff on Ebay just due to the large audience.

What about trying a specialist dealer for a valuation?

Other factor is whether this is the best time to sell something like that, I would assume the "interesting car" market is stronger in spring/summer. Could just take it to shows and put a for sale sign in the windscreen.

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Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

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ISOLATE PSYCHOTIC
Keep muzzled...

slothrop posted:

well, it could be worse. He could be really into Street Sharks and be saying "Jawsome"

:mad:

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

slothrop posted:

well, it could be worse. He could be really into Street Sharks and be saying "Jawsome"




LoL, I'm gonna start responding with Jawsome.

T-Square
May 14, 2009

Adiabatic posted:

Never imagined myself saying this but Adam Sandler gonna get an Oscar.

Most Adam Sandler products from the last like 13 years make my eyes gloss over, but Happy Gilmore, Billy Madison, and Waterboy are some of my favorite comedies and quotes from them still get thrown around on a regular basis. One of my favorite things when I know I'm one of the last people to show up to a thing is to quietly walk in and pipe up "And do you re-remember when Bobby Boucher showed up at halftime and the Mud Dawgs won the Bourbon Bowl?"


slothrop posted:

well, it could be worse. He could be really into Street Sharks and be saying "Jawsome"

I used to do this and no one ever knew what I was talking about :saddowns:

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

InitialDave posted:

I'm afraid I'm terrible at selling cars anyway, but I usually put stuff on Ebay just due to the large audience.

I tend to ruin then into the scrap yard partly to avoid dealing with the general public. On an unrelated note anyone need parts off a 2008 S40 (focus platform)?

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Considering we were doing IoT chat recently...

https://twitter.com/bypatrickgeorge/status/1206973668326289408

quote:

For a broader view, Mason also extracted the data from a Chevrolet infotainment computer that I bought used on eBay for $375. It contained enough data to reconstruct the Upstate New York travels and relationships of a total stranger. We know he or she frequently called someone listed as “Sweetie,” whose photo we also have. We could see the exact Gulf station where they bought gas, the restaurant where they ate (called Taste China) and the unique identifiers for their Samsung Galaxy Note phones.

Infotainment systems can collect even more. Mason has hacked into Fords that record locations once every few minutes, even when you don’t use the navigation system. He’s seen German cars with 300-gigabyte hard drives — five times as much as a basic iPhone 11. The Tesla Model 3 can collect video snippets from the car’s many cameras. Coming next: face data, used to personalize the vehicle and track driver attention.

In our Chevy, we probably glimpsed just a fraction of what GM knows. We didn’t see what was uploaded to GM’s computers, because we couldn’t access the live OnStar cellular connection. (Researchers have done those kinds of hacks before to prove connected vehicles can be remotely controlled.)

My volunteer car owner Doug asked GM to see the data it collected and shared. The automaker just pointed us to an obtuse privacy policy. Doug also (twice) sent GM a formal request under a 2003 California data law to ask who the company shared his information with. He got no reply.

But there were clues to what more GM knows on its website and app. It offers a Smart Driver score — a measure of good driving — based on how hard you brake and turn and how often you drive late at night. They’ll share that with insurance companies, if you want. With paid OnStar service, I could, on demand, locate the car’s exact location. It also offers in-vehicle WiFi and remote key access for Amazon package deliveries. An OnStar Marketplace connects the vehicle directly with third-party apps for Domino’s, IHOP, Shell and others.

The OnStar privacy policy, possibly only ever read by yours truly, grants the company rights to a broad set of personal and driving data without much detail on when and how often it might collect it. It says: “We may keep the information we collect for as long as necessary” to operate, conduct research or satisfy GM’s contractual obligations. Translation: pretty much forever.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/12/17/what-does-your-car-know-about-you-we-hacked-chevy-find-out/


https://twitter.com/Super1_7/status/1207255887246704640

Olympic Mathlete fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Dec 18, 2019

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



cakesmith handyman posted:

How much is a car and classic ad these days? They have a good reach still

I hadn't even considered magazines.

Car and classic appear to do free adverts on their website and have a load of other similar vehicles on there - I shall submit it there too :)

I think my price is fairly good too based on the stuff there already.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


GM, Ford, er. al. with “smart” infotainment systems are InfoSec ticking time bombs. It’s only a matter of time before they get compromised and spill everyone’s data all over the internet. I just use my phone and an aftermarket CarPlay head unit. At least I’m no more vulnerable than I was before.

Grakkus
Sep 4, 2011

Pistonheads classifieds maybe? If you want to try something a bit higher end, theres also The Market, which is like BaT for the UK and (a little bit) less snobby. Honestly Ebay has the biggest market though.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

How hard can it be to get Spectrum to just ship a couple of cable boxes?

Ordered them originally a few weeks ago. Waited a couple of days past the promised date, called them, they said they had no record. Shipped again. Was supposed to be here Monday.

Called yesterday. They saw the order, but said someone closed it out 30 minutes later as complete. So they put in ANOTHER order..

Woke up today to a tech banging on my door, saying he was here to install my internet. Dude, I have internet. I just need my cable boxes. Said his work order isn't for that, and there'd be a charge for that anyway (per the leasing office, it's supposed to be free). Told him I never requested a tech and had only ordered cable boxes. He said he'd cancel the work order.

Called them afterwards. They said they showed a missed appointment for 10am. I told them I never made an appointment, I only ordered cable boxes yesterday, and I was told they'd be here Friday. They said they never ship cable boxes (bullshit, I've watched Fedex dropping them off for the past few weeks, since the entire property now has free cable) and we have to drive half an hour to a Spectrum store with a copy of my lease and my GF in tow (since she's the one on the account, though we're both on the lease). We're rarely awake at the same time. :fuckoff:

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe

Darchangel posted:

GM, Ford, er. al. with “smart” infotainment systems are InfoSec ticking time bombs. It’s only a matter of time before they get compromised and spill everyone’s data all over the internet.


Yeah no poo poo. And of course when it happens we'll get sad puppy eyes and a "we're sorry". Yea go gently caress yourselves with a rusty scissor jack.

I loving hate modern vehicles so much as they've shadowing what the internet has become. Is it that loving hard to build something from modern alloys without having to integrate farcebook with it?

At least they're "safe" so when it 'autonomously' mows down a pedestrian the occupants will live. :v:


I'd like a newer EV/gasoline(or diesel) electric hybrid. Yea gently caress anything on the market that's going to report statistics to the parent manufacturer. No, gently caress you, I bought this, I didn't sign a EULA with the loving junkyard I got this thing from. No you may not have my personal data and driving habits. Sure I could pull the center stack, find the programming headers and try to dump the flash. It's a mountain of work just to cover my rear end in a shitbox appliance. I'd rather brew my own. I'll be waiting a few more years for these vehicles to age their way into junkyards where I'll harvest their sweet sweet parts to re-home in a classic or two.

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

cursedshitbox posted:

And of course when it happens we'll get sad puppy eyes and a "we're sorry".
No one could have known this would happen but due to the malfeasance of hackers it has been discovered it is possible to remotely control the vehicle. However, unfortunately these vehicles have passed beyond support window and no further updates can be made available.

T-Square
May 14, 2009

STR posted:

How hard can it be to get Spectrum to just ship a couple of cable boxes?

Ordered them originally a few weeks ago. Waited a couple of days past the promised date, called them, they said they had no record. Shipped again. Was supposed to be here Monday.

Called yesterday. They saw the order, but said someone closed it out 30 minutes later as complete. So they put in ANOTHER order..

Woke up today to a tech banging on my door, saying he was here to install my internet. Dude, I have internet. I just need my cable boxes. Said his work order isn't for that, and there'd be a charge for that anyway (per the leasing office, it's supposed to be free). Told him I never requested a tech and had only ordered cable boxes. He said he'd cancel the work order.

Called them afterwards. They said they showed a missed appointment for 10am. I told them I never made an appointment, I only ordered cable boxes yesterday, and I was told they'd be here Friday. They said they never ship cable boxes (bullshit, I've watched Fedex dropping them off for the past few weeks, since the entire property now has free cable) and we have to drive half an hour to a Spectrum store with a copy of my lease and my GF in tow (since she's the one on the account, though we're both on the lease). We're rarely awake at the same time. :fuckoff:

When I moved earlier this year, I scheduled my Spectrum switch ahead of time (the fucker called my bluff when I said if he didn't put me down to the introductory rate I'd go somewhere else, dude said "Oh, if you wanted to cancel service today I'd be happy to do that!") he said he'd send a set-up kit to my new address, and I said don't send it until the 30th because I don't have access to the unit until then, which is also when I scheduled my service to switch addresses. Got an e-mail from my new leasing office the next day that I had a package addressed to me from Spectrum and they grabbed it and took it to the leasing office to hold on to. Spectrum sucks.

E:

taqueso posted:

No one could have known this would happen but due to the malfeasance of hackers it has been discovered it is possible to remotely control the vehicle. However, unfortunately these vehicles have passed beyond support window and no further updates can be made available.

Didn't this literally happen with a new Jeep like a year ago :v:

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


I think it's naive to believe that a modern vehicle is passing any more or less data than the phone 99% of us carry with us 24/7.

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

Maybe not, but at least the smartphone companies pretend to give some control over your data?

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





T-Square posted:

Didn't this literally happen with a new Jeep like a year ago :v:

It did, and it was made worse by the fact that it was apparently very easy to scan for other vulnerable FCA vehicles. They never released how they did so (and I got some laughably pissed off comments on a local Jeep board about how it was "impossible" to sniff cell phone data that way) but I'd guess that Sprint just lumped them all into a relatively contiguous block of IP addresses.

angryrobots posted:

Maybe not, but at least the smartphone companies pretend to give some control over your data?

Also, this. There are relatively easy-to-use features in your phone to allow you to hard wipe it before you sell it, but this is not any sort of standard with cars even though they're probably the most resold product out there.

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



InitialDave posted:

I'm afraid I'm terrible at selling cars anyway, but I usually put stuff on Ebay just due to the large audience.

What about trying a specialist dealer for a valuation?

Other factor is whether this is the best time to sell something like that, I would assume the "interesting car" market is stronger in spring/summer. Could just take it to shows and put a for sale sign in the windscreen.

Selling on ebay sucks. I might investigate an ebay classified ad though?

looking at the car and classic ads I don't think i'm far off.

Maybe a good point but I want it out of the way. Having too many vehicles (and this one permanently taking up my garage) is getting me down and I need the garage space so I can get on with other stuff that I want to do. In an ideal world I should really keep it until Jan 2022 when it becomes tax exempt and I imagine its value will go up.

Grakkus posted:

Pistonheads classifieds maybe? If you want to try something a bit higher end, theres also The Market, which is like BaT for the UK and (a little bit) less snobby. Honestly Ebay has the biggest market though.

I'll investigate both of them.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

cursedshitbox posted:

I'd like a newer EV/gasoline(or diesel) electric hybrid. Yea gently caress anything on the market that's going to report statistics to the parent manufacturer. No, gently caress you, I bought this, I didn't sign a EULA with the loving junkyard I got this thing from. No you may not have my personal data and driving habits. Sure I could pull the center stack, find the programming headers and try to dump the flash. It's a mountain of work just to cover my rear end in a shitbox appliance. I'd rather brew my own. I'll be waiting a few more years for these vehicles to age their way into junkyards where I'll harvest their sweet sweet parts to re-home in a classic or two.

There's plenty of Priuses in junkyards, and the older ones without navigation don't track location (you can swap the head unit to ditch navigation, though if you do that, you can't easily reset a bunch of the stats on the driver info center). Toyota was pretty late to the ET phone home gang too - Safety Connect didn't come out until the 2009-2014 model year (depending on model) on Toyotas (Lexus had an older version, but it was just rebranded GM OnStar). Prius didn't get it until 2010, and I'm not even sure it was standard equipment or not (pretty sure it was an option).

T-Square posted:

When I moved earlier this year, I scheduled my Spectrum switch ahead of time (the fucker called my bluff when I said if he didn't put me down to the introductory rate I'd go somewhere else, dude said "Oh, if you wanted to cancel service today I'd be happy to do that!") he said he'd send a set-up kit to my new address, and I said don't send it until the 30th because I don't have access to the unit until then, which is also when I scheduled my service to switch addresses. Got an e-mail from my new leasing office the next day that I had a package addressed to me from Spectrum and they grabbed it and took it to the leasing office to hold on to. Spectrum sucks.

Sounds right. Ages ago, when it was still Time Warner, I had scheduled the install for the day after I moved in, at 10am. I get a call the day I'm supposed to get the keys, at 8am, saying "hey, we're here to setup your service". Luckily the leasing office was open, and they were able to let them in before I arrived. Tech chewed me out for scheduling an appointment the day I moved in AND when I didn't have a computer on hand to test it, I told him "I didn't, I scheduled it for tomorrow, go bitch at your call center for loving it up, not me".

I just went by the leasing office to get a copy of the first page of the lease (I don't have 8.5x14 paper on hand to print the pdf), mentioned what was going on. They sighed and said yeah, I'm far from the first person to have issues. They pulled this poo poo with the assistant property manager too (who lives in the building across from mine)... not smart since, you know, she's the one that's their point of contact for the entire property.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Dec 18, 2019

MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007



NitroSpazzz posted:

I did the travel thing for a little bit when I was younger and enjoyed it, would be on the road 22-25 days a month. Eventually that caught up with me and I backed off to 1-1.5 weeks away a month. Now I don't travel much unless it's a special customer or site. I wouldn't pass up another 4-8 week trip in another country but it's harder now with the wife and three dogs. Travel just wears me down too much anymore and I catch a cold or something about half the time it seems.

I used to travel just during the work week and that isn't too bad, but I did 7 weeks in London and that was a bit much. It was cool at first, but after a while it was lame having nothing to do on a Friday/Saturday night other than read a book at a pub. Also a pain to talk to your wife when your time zones are so far apart.

I did devolve into bachelor living, when my wife came out at the very end to visit me, she and the cleaning lady for the hotel were bonding over my remarkable ability to just leave poo poo all over the room. Also the only "food" in my room was a bottle of Armagnac and some chocolate crackers.

T-Square
May 14, 2009

STR posted:

Sounds right. Ages ago, when it was still Time Warner, I had scheduled the install for the day after I moved in, at 10am. I get a call the day I'm supposed to get the keys, at 8am, saying "hey, we're here to setup your service". Luckily the leasing office was open, and they were able to let them in before I arrived. Tech chewed me out for scheduling an appointment the day I moved in AND when I didn't have a computer on hand to test it, I told him "I didn't, I scheduled it for tomorrow, go bitch at your call center for loving it up, not me".

I just went by the leasing office to get a copy of the first page of the lease (I don't have 8.5x14 paper on hand to print the pdf), mentioned what was going on. They sighed and said yeah, I'm far from the first person to have issues. They pulled this poo poo with the assistant property manager too (who lives in the building across from mine)... not smart since, you know, she's the one that's their point of contact for the entire property.

Oh yeah, this also reminds me that I specifically asked via e-mail with my girlfriend CC'd if we could get the keys on the 30th (two days before the 1st when our lease officially started) so I could take that day and the next, which were a Thursday and Friday, off to move in and get anything important that might have sprung up taken care of before the weekend started. They said yeah sure, not a problem. I waltzed into the leasing office on the morning of the 30th and they were like here's your keys, but maintenance is doing repairs today and tomorrow so you can't go in until Saturday, and I was pretty much like "I cleared this with you guys months ago, you had an entire month with a vacant apartment to do these repairs, I don't care if there's someone working in there, I have a car full of poo poo and I'm not taking that poo poo 30 minutes back to my apartment and waiting two days." She sheepishly said she forgot about it and told me she'll call the maintenance guy and give him a heads up. All of his tools and new faucets/blinds were in there when I got there, but I never saw the guy and his poo poo was gone by the end of the day :shrug:

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


IOwnCalculus posted:

Also, this. There are relatively easy-to-use features in your phone to allow you to hard wipe it before you sell it, but this is not any sort of standard with cars even though they're probably the most resold product out there.

I disagree - I just finished a lease on a GM and am leasing a Ford. Both have a hard wipe that is clearly documented in the owners manual, and is not-too-buried in the interfaces.

I'm wagering from a practical level it does the equivalent of a phone hard wipe, which is pretty meager. I have been able to successfully recover a vast majority of "wiped" data from both Android and iOS devices with relative ease.

Don't get me wrong - we should be appalled by the lack of security around our personal data. If you truly want to see change, go after Google, Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon who are the enablers.

Goober Peas fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Dec 18, 2019

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe

taqueso posted:

No one could have known this would happen but due to the malfeasance of hackers it has been discovered it is possible to remotely control the vehicle. However, unfortunately these vehicles have passed beyond support window and no further updates can be made available.

When it reaches EOL give us the toolchain and the code so we can fix it ourselves. But nah, that's anti-consumerist and planned obsolescence made easy.

Hell a moto manufacturer is having issues with this exact thing where telemetry is filling the pcm up and bricking it. Of course this requires the replacement of the controller.

STR posted:

There's plenty of Priuses in junkyards, and the older ones without navigation don't track location (you can swap the head unit to ditch navigation, though if you do that, you can't easily reset a bunch of the stats on the driver info center). Toyota was pretty late to the ET phone home gang too - Safety Connect didn't come out until the 2009-2014 model year (depending on model) on Toyotas (Lexus had an older version, but it was just rebranded GM OnStar). Prius didn't get it until 2010, and I'm not even sure it was standard equipment or not (pretty sure it was an option).


I've legit considered a prius. They're lacking in capacity and have the wrong chemistry. Was looking at the gen1 volt and the caddy elr, however I'm not really a fan of GM. Generator on top of a bev is the idea here. Right now a genny + BEV will tide me over till I buy a place and build it out. To better put in perspective, I currently have 10 kilo of solar that's in storage, and will sooner or later have 80 kilo of generator power. Then a redundant array of BEVs will be used as storage capacity. Whether They're built from parts, or bought has yet to be determined.

freelop
Apr 28, 2013

Where we're going, we won't need fries to see



Every time I think of IoT I think of this video on how to reset your GE smart lightbulb https://youtu.be/1BB6wj6RyKo

I want Ghost in the Shell cyber brains

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

freelop posted:

Every time I think of IoT I think of this video on how to reset your GE smart lightbulb https://youtu.be/1BB6wj6RyKo

I want Ghost in the Shell cyber brains
I accidentally obtained some of these and OH MY GOD WHO THE gently caress DESIGNED THIS poo poo?

I was less mad about the reset process before I found out the pieces of crap need to be reset on a regular basis.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Today I had to run errands and I stopped and got a haircut and jesus gently caress the public is terrible

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


IOwnCalculus posted:

It did, and it was made worse by the fact that it was apparently very easy to scan for other vulnerable FCA vehicles. They never released how they did so (and I got some laughably pissed off comments on a local Jeep board about how it was "impossible" to sniff cell phone data that way) but I'd guess that Sprint just lumped them all into a relatively contiguous block of IP addresses.


Also, this. There are relatively easy-to-use features in your phone to allow you to hard wipe it before you sell it, but this is not any sort of standard with cars even though they're probably the most resold product out there.

At least with a phone, most people are cognizant that it is an always-on internet device. We’re not conditioned to think of a driving appliance that way yet.

STR posted:

Sounds right. Ages ago, when it was still Time Warner, I had scheduled the install for the day after I moved in, at 10am. I get a call the day I'm supposed to get the keys, at 8am, saying "hey, we're here to setup your service". Luckily the leasing office was open, and they were able to let them in before I arrived. Tech chewed me out for scheduling an appointment the day I moved in AND when I didn't have a computer on hand to test it, I told him "I didn't, I scheduled it for tomorrow, go bitch at your call center for loving it up, not me".

I just went by the leasing office to get a copy of the first page of the lease (I don't have 8.5x14 paper on hand to print the pdf), mentioned what was going on. They sighed and said yeah, I'm far from the first person to have issues. They pulled this poo poo with the assistant property manager too (who lives in the building across from mine)... not smart since, you know, she's the one that's their point of contact for the entire property.

I sincerely don’t understand how entering a date and time in a scheduling application or system can be so far beyond what is presumably a tech savvy company, here in the year of our Lord 2000 and almost 20.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Rhyno posted:

Today I had to run errands and I stopped and got a haircut and jesus gently caress the public is terrible

Well, yeah. Remember, they’re the ones who voted the current baboon to the head office.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Rhyno posted:

Today I had to run errands and I stopped and got a haircut and jesus gently caress the public is terrible

I hit an absolute limit of social interaction after ~1 hour of dealing with people where i'm just done and need to lay down somewhere quiet.

It hit that limit after 5 minutes at costco, and had to take a nap in the car today.

You know what loving crackers taste like, i'm going full tilt to get out of the store, don't dive in front of me to get one :argh:

I got all my christmas poo poo done and am in self exile until christmas day at this point.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Powershift posted:

I hit an absolute limit of social interaction after ~1 hour of dealing with people where i'm just done and need to lay down somewhere quiet.

It hit that limit after 5 minutes at costco, and had to take a nap in the car today.

You know what loving crackers taste like, i'm going full tilt to get out of the store, don't dive in front of me to get one :argh:

I got all my christmas poo poo done and am in self exile until christmas day at this point.

I also went to Costco and it was hell and I want to die.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Darchangel posted:

Well, yeah. Remember, they’re the ones who voted the current baboon to the head office.

Except they didn't - he lost the popular vote. But won the electoral college.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher
The wife is going to get the authentic Christmas experience from Australia today

- Massive 400,000 hectacre fire to the north that if the wind swings in the wrong direction we're going to GTFO
- 45C
- Huge southery in the afternoon that'll turn the firegrounds into a true firestorm, which we should have a front row seat seeing everything to the north burnt out.

And then get to experience it all over again on Saturday!

Yeeesh. Here's hoping House of Cats and Too many Subarus is still standing after all of this

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica
All I see is yet another list of reasons to move to Canada.

T-Square
May 14, 2009

Rhyno posted:

Today I had to run errands and I stopped and got a haircut and jesus gently caress the public is terrible

I'm still figuring out the whole haircut thing. I just wore it long and shaggy and looked like a dork from middle school through high school, then after high school I just buzzed it short myself and also still looked like a dork. I started growing it out and actually going to a barber last year at some point I think or early this year, and while I definitely look and feel miles better about myself, I've been to four different barbers between three different shops and I can't get anyone to get my hair 100% how I want it to look. The lady I first started going to was my favorite so far, but then I moved and I'm not driving ~30 minutes for a haircut. First world problems.


Powershift posted:

I got all my christmas poo poo done and am in self exile until christmas day at this point.

I got my girlfriend a couple of gifts and nothing for anyone else, and we probably won't go anywhere either because we have an overnight stay at the hospital scheduled Friday/Saturday for stuff and we don't know if she'll be up for travelling anywhere the next week. Besides that, it'll probably be the best Christmas ever.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Fermented Tinal posted:

All I see is yet another list of reasons to move to Canada.

Canada was on fire the last time he was here too.

Maybe fire just follows him.


Move to Washington, D.C.!

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

freelop posted:

Every time I think of IoT I think of this video on how to reset your GE smart lightbulb https://youtu.be/1BB6wj6RyKo

I want Ghost in the Shell cyber brains

Enjoy your Cyberbrain Sclerosis

Why is a lightbulb and IoT device? I have a dimmer switch, I could have an IoT outlet serve as a dimmer switch, why does the lightbulb even play into this? Why isn't the reset process, "unscrew the drat thing"?
:psyduck:

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Powershift posted:

Canada was on fire the last time he was here too.

Maybe fire just follows him.


Move to Washington, D.C.!
Maybe he starts the fires.

Move to Washington, D.C.!

The Door Frame posted:

Enjoy your Cyberbrain Sclerosis

Why is a lightbulb and IoT device? I have a dimmer switch, I could have an IoT outlet serve as a dimmer switch, why does the lightbulb even play into this? Why isn't the reset process, "unscrew the drat thing"? :psyduck:
I mean, bulbs as IoT, I totally get - it's easier to install a bulb than to swap a switch (yeah, I know, not much, but still, this is why products succeed or fail), a dimmer switch doesn't give you colors, direct control over the bulb gives you more control than a single switch.

I've been very happy with my Philips Hue stuff, and I've never had to reset them. (I don't even know if there is a process to reset them, because why the gently caress would a lightbulb need to be reset?) I don't know why G.E. is so much worse at this. I got them for free with a separate thing, and I was stoked to get a couple of free bulbs that would fill out the house - Hue bulbs are fairly pricey - but the fact that I've had to reset and re-pair them multiple times in the ~2 weeks I've had them has already got me watching for deals on Hue bulbs.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

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some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

The Door Frame posted:

Why is a lightbulb and IoT device? I have a dimmer switch, I could have an IoT outlet serve as a dimmer switch, why does the lightbulb even play into this? Why isn't the reset process, "unscrew the drat thing"?
:psyduck:

I have 2 lamps in the foyer. They are full-intensity 5000k color temperature through the day, then drop to 5% intensity at 2400k color temperature through the evening/night. The pantry has the same setup. :colbert:

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

Ok then

Krakkles posted:

Maybe he starts the fires.

Move to Washington, D.C.!

I mean, bulbs as IoT, I totally get - it's easier to install a bulb than to swap a switch (yeah, I know, not much, but still, this is why products succeed or fail), a dimmer switch doesn't give you colors, direct control over the bulb gives you more control than a single switch.

I've been very happy with my Philips Hue stuff, and I've never had to reset them. (I don't even know if there is a process to reset them, because why the gently caress would a lightbulb need to be reset?) I don't know why G.E. is so much worse at this. I got them for free with a separate thing, and I was stoked to get a couple of free bulbs that would fill out the house - Hue bulbs are fairly pricey - but the fact that I've had to reset and re-pair them multiple times in the ~2 weeks I've had them has already got me watching for deals on Hue bulbs.
He can ride a ring around LA and SF first, then head to WDC.

Yeah, they're pricey, but I love my hue bulbs. Work great.

Ether Frenzy
Dec 22, 2006




Nap Ghost

ilkhan posted:

He can ride a ring around LA and SF first, then head to WDC.

Yeah, they're pricey, but I love my hue bulbs. Work great.

I assume your dreamboy will be loving off playing golf like usual while the filthy libs are murdered in DC by your fire fantasy?

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Krakkles
May 5, 2003

ilkhan posted:

He can ride a ring around LA and SF first, then head to WDC.
This is a lovely take.

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