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MizPiz posted:The most third worldist piece of military equipment it's hoxhaist because it ends up in a hole in the ground
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1207396046562897921 a stooge of the MIC, a shameful democratic primary candidate
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90s Cringe Rock posted:the f-35 is the people's plane now We'll guillotine the rich by putting them in f35s and forcing them to eject
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Norton the First posted:Trump heightened the contradictions to the point where even Boomer liberals would rather choke to death on their own vomit than vote for him over Bernie. But I don't really think it addresses what I said. It strikes me as an ideological dead end that will die a sputtering death as younger voters who weren't inundated from birth with anticommunist propaganda shift the mainstream leftward, much like Clinton era conservative Democrats were the dominant force within the party but are all but dead now. Folks who love unfettered capitalism more than anything will drift to the GOP and the rest will resolve the dissonance by moving left with everyone else.
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Norton the First posted:Trump heightened the contradictions to the point where even Boomer liberals would rather choke to death on their own vomit than vote for him over Bernie. But I don't really think it addresses what I said.
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:its funny to me that of all the people who tried to take leadership of the alt right after trumps election and squabbled and destroyed themselves in the process , somehow this loving slimy dweeb ended up winning he was better at 4chan style posting
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Azathoth posted:It strikes me as an ideological dead end that will die a sputtering death as younger voters who weren't inundated from birth with anticommunist propaganda shift the mainstream leftward, much like Clinton era conservative Democrats were the dominant force within the party but are all but dead now. there are a lot of 30something chuds who are immune to cognitive dissonance due to their parents indoctrinating them with foxnews garbage. how many times do you think any given highschool guidance counselor has had to hear the same idiotic "why is 'liberal arts' a thing?" quip each year, when it's time for the turds to migrate to college?
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:he was better at 4chan style posting
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Norton the First posted:The problem with this has always been that left-liberals are a thing. Roosevelt was undeniably a liberal.
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Dr. Killjoy posted:https://twitter.com/Put_it_to_1000/status/1179928509046763520?s=20%5C Is "Esoteric Hollywood" as anti-Semitic as it sounds?
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Azathoth posted:It strikes me as an ideological dead end that will die a sputtering death as younger voters who weren't inundated from birth with anticommunist propaganda shift the mainstream leftward, much like Clinton era conservative Democrats were the dominant force within the party but are all but dead now. Part of my point is that Bernie at his leftiest is still only a left-liberal in truth. His program is far less encompassing than the Four Freedoms. But then, what is the distinction in America between socialists like Bernie and AOC and left-liberals like Roosevelt? To what extent is the "liberal" insult meaningful in our particular context? pookel posted:There's also the issue that the conflation of "liberal" with leftism in America leads to people who aren't super politically active self-identifying as "liberals" because they support universal health care, wealth taxes, labor unions, etc. Someone who self-ID's as "a liberal" could be anything from an establishment-loving neolib to a socialist who just doesn't know the word applies to them. I identify as a liberal in exactly the Rooseveltian sense, which is pretty much that. I also identify as a social democrat otherwise. Norton the First has issued a correction as of 23:22 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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pookel posted:Is "Esoteric Hollywood" as anti-Semitic as it sounds? this guy’s a chud but think more like (completely different nobody): quote:I made this video movie documentary. The goal of the film is to make you realize that movies are made to program the viewer to accept certain ideas that are designed to change behavior. This is done because certain agendas and ideas are easier accepted if someone is familiar with them. An example, future technology is put into movies ahead of time. When the technology is released, people are already familiar with it. An example I used in my movie was from Back to the Future II where flat screen TVs are present. Another example, from that movie, that I didn't use is where Marty's Asian boss is shown. The programming here is America's job's moving overseas to China like that but not as completely loving stupid. Just stupid enough though. Think analyzing Terminator as Their plan to replace humanity or Moonraker being an admission to the Nazi off-world civilization. Just applying esoteric and conspiracy cultural analysis to films, and then assuming literalist and prescriptivist intent to whatever they depict. Dr. Killjoy has issued a correction as of 23:33 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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Norton the First posted:I identify as a liberal in exactly the Rooseveltian sense, which is pretty much that. I also identify as a social democrat otherwise. 
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Norton the First posted:Part of my point is that Bernie at his leftiest is still only a left-liberal in truth. His program is far less encompassing than the Four Freedoms. Ah, I get what you're saying now. I would respond by saying that the post WW2 economic and social order narrowed the political window between right and left in a way that is unprecedented in American history, and Roosevelt (I think you mean FDR but this is also true for Teddy) formed their ideologies in an era when the matrix of possible ideological positions was far wider than it is today and far wider than for which we have any real frame of reference. FDR was absolutely in the left wing of his party, but he did not occupy a position analogous to Bernie or AOC today. There were people in his administration, Henry Wallace springs to mind, who were firmly left of him, as were other politicians of the time. That FDR would be left of Bernie today is more a damning indictment of our political culture than a damning indictment of Bernie or his politics. I would quibble about calling Bernie left-liberal instead of a democratic socialist or a social democrat, as I personally consider that to be a liberal, one must inherently support capitalism so one cannot be both anticapitalist and liberal, but that's a semantic argument at most. As to liberal being an insult, it's only an insult if you consider yourself left of liberal. I personally use neoliberal or shitlib in circumstances when calling someone out for cheering on capitalist exploitation, as it doesn't have the specific positive connotations that just plain liberal does for many. For your particular identification, I would say that the meaning of liberal has evolved to a such a degree that self-identifying as a Rooseveltian liberal is likely to generate more confusion than it dispels. Whether you should identifying as liberal, I'd say it depends on whether you want to signal implicit support for capitalism, since that seems to be the way the word is evolving.
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Broke: talking about thos eggs Woke: talking about sperm quality
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Azathoth posted:For your particular identification, I would say that the meaning of liberal has evolved to a such a degree that self-identifying as a Rooseveltian liberal is likely to generate more confusion than it dispels. Whether you should identifying as liberal, I'd say it depends on whether you want to signal implicit support for capitalism, since that seems to be the way the word is evolving. I'm just about old enough that I grew up when it was a particular kind of effective slur by the right, the sort that the Clintons ran from, before the shift to "progressive" or whatever. In truth I don't really think there's much distinction between left-liberal and social democrat, and liberal has greater historical significance in American society, because -- with militant socialists scaring centrists into behaving themselves, no question -- practically every worthwhile social reform since the first Roosevelt has been enacted by these left-liberals. I don't think it's helpful to run from that. We own the legacy. "Liberal" as dirty word disowns both Roosevelts, and Truman and JFK and LBJ, and no matter how godawful they were in foreign policy, that's giving away half the game.
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Dr. Killjoy posted:oh yeah that's A Thing now struggling to unpack the sexual baggage of someone accusing beyoncé of concealing a narrow male pelvis
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Norton the First posted:I'm just about old enough that I grew up when it was a particular kind of effective slur by the right, the sort that the Clintons ran from, before the shift to "progressive" or whatever. In truth I don't really think there's much distinction between left-liberal and social democrat, and liberal has greater historical significance in American society, because -- with militant socialists scaring centrists into behaving themselves, no question -- practically every worthwhile social reform since the first Roosevelt has been enacted by these left-liberals. I don't think it's helpful to run from that. We own the legacy. You keep fighting for the word liberal, I'll keep fighting for the Oxford comma, a law requiring all chickens to wear pants, and two spaces after every period. We can get together every now and again to shout our grievances at an uncaring sky until the cops shoo us away.
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I’m surprised divabot didn’t post this himself divabot posted:Tangential, but here's what T. Greg Doucette's been doing in the meantime - fighting the University of North Carolina over a bogus payout for the Silent Sam confederate statue. This too turns out to be a wild ride.
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:struggling to unpack the sexual baggage of someone accusing beyoncé of concealing a narrow male pelvis And Salma Hayek and Lynda Carter.
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Mr Interweb posted:isn't a baphomet a monster from final fantasy? 
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Alan Smithee posted:I’m surprised divabot didn’t post this himself holy poo poo
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Azathoth posted:We can get together every now and again to shout our grievances at an uncaring sky until the cops shoo us away. Hey, where do you live? I need a buddy for that.
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Pornographic Memory posted:lets give molyneaux some credit here because scolding leonardo dicaprio for dating overly young women is probably the most normal take on human sexuality hes ever had despite being couched in weird fertility stuff eh, "strip mining the fertility of models" is his primary concern. he's basically tweeting "Because the beauty of the White Aryan woman must not perish from the earth."
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1207482454870761473 get hosed tulsi
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Alan Smithee posted:I’m surprised divabot didn’t post this himself that is a crazy obvious 2.5 million dollar donation from the school to an organization honoring racist traitors
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:eh, "strip mining the fertility of models" is his primary concern. he's basically tweeting "Because the beauty of the White Aryan woman must not perish from the earth." loving leftist pushing sustainable female egg farming this is the comedy option of Disco Elysium where you play the centrist cop and just pick every conversation choice of, "Well, it's not my job to have an opinion on this."
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