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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Everyone has to clock in and out of the toilets and each month whoever has spent the most time in there is fired

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Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

How benevolent

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Everyone has to clock in and out of the toilets and each month whoever has spent the most time in there is fired

I got employee of the month by saving up my turds and taking them home :smug:

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Braggart posted:

Ooh! What about a toilet seat that hinges at the front and is motorised to flip you off the toilet after 5 minutes? Better make sure you're finished by then!

Winning idea, presented by Blue Labour: a toilet seat that hinges at the front & is motorised to flip you off the shitter after 5 minutes if you are not a white, cis Briton.

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Wait, are we talking about the angled shitter or amazon workers pissing in bottles to avoid a trip to HR?


Who am I joking, of course it's both

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Excited for the future where it's just the strogg from quake 4.

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




Braggart posted:

I got employee of the month by saving up my turds and taking them home :smug:

I found where you keep them!

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Braggart posted:

Ooh! What about a toilet seat that hinges at the front and is motorised to flip you off the toilet after 5 minutes? Better make sure you're finished by then!

I've had the pleasure of encountering a toilet with motion activated lights. The sensor was not visible from inside the stall and it was set on a 5 minute timer.

Hope you enjoy pooping in the dark!

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Braggart posted:

I got employee of the month by saving up my turds and taking them home :smug:

True story: I once got employee of the month at McDs in Brum for opening the shop because the manager who was supposed to start at 6am didn't turn up until 7:55 and we were supposed to open at 6:30am. Of course, before that happened, one of the other managers bollocked me for doing so but gently caress em, we had a till float, we had people in the kitchen, we could do it

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Poop in the dark, poop in the dark! I have a constant fear that something's always near.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

OwlFancier posted:

Excited for the future where it's just the strogg from quake 4.



At least its reliable work.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
And surprised that no one has thought of Office Nappies (Diapers).

Boost your workforce production AND sell their produce for extra capital!

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1207342372520103939?s=19

Can't get him for an interview but can get his almost certainly ghost written diary in your lovely fascist magazine.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
If he's writing for the Spectator does that mean Tom Stoppard is cancelled now. I quite liked arcadia

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1207342372520103939?s=19

Can't get him for an interview but can get his almost certainly ghost written diary in your lovely fascist magazine.

It's online and it's really something.

He actually tries to play off that hiding in a fridge and stealing a reporters phone were PR masterstrokes

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Z the IVth posted:

I've had the pleasure of encountering a toilet with motion activated lights. The sensor was not visible from inside the stall and it was set on a 5 minute timer.

Hope you enjoy pooping in the dark!

:laugh:

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

True story: I once got employee of the month at McDs in Brum for opening the shop because the manager who was supposed to start at 6am didn't turn up until 7:55 and we were supposed to open at 6:30am. Of course, before that happened, one of the other managers bollocked me for doing so but gently caress em, we had a till float, we had people in the kitchen, we could do it

All independent thought in employees must be ruthlessly crushed, lest they start thinking about their work conditions.

Or even worse, replacing management.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

A good thread:

https://twitter.com/hoodedman1187/status/1205830055223529474?s=20

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Private Speech posted:

All independent thought in employees must be ruthlessly crushed, lest they start thinking about their work conditions.

Or even worse, replacing management.

I ended up getting a promotion out of it, then a transfer to the other side of the city, then quitting in the most "I am done with this poo poo" way possible all in the space of six months

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
i'm glad we've got centrist media personalities to tell us how to do left-wing politics

personally, they make me feel inspired and aggressive, knowing that any left successes from this point, no matter how small, make them angry. what would we have done without them?

CGI Stardust fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Dec 19, 2019

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
What I have to wonder about is how much of a chance a labour government would have had - especially if working without a majority. I really would not have believed there was such an absolute wall of poo poo placed in the path to any genuinely left wing government in this country.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

crispix posted:

What I have to wonder about is how much of a chance a labour government would have had - especially if working without a majority. I really would not have believed there was such an absolute wall of poo poo placed in the path to any genuinely left wing government in this country.

One of the little things I'm mulling over is whether a hamstrung minority labour government unable to do anything in the same position bojo was before the election might have actually been a worse outcome than a tory win in the long term. This way the tories have to own brexit and gently caress, once brexit is finally over with (and poo poo) what do they have? All labour needs to do is hold its nerve and make sure it remains left-wing, the absolute worse thing that they could do is buckle and elect another centrist as leader so that's obviously what will happen

A lot of people are going to suffer in the next five years, though, no two ways about that

In other news, this is a somewhat necessary dose of fire to rouse us from the melancholy:

https://medium.com/@JohnWight1/corbyn-was-our-father-gapon-they-have-yet-to-meet-our-lenin-5a6c7abcda46

quote:

In her final letter, written while in hiding just days before she and her comrade in struggle, Karl Liebknecht, were tracked down in Berlin by counterrevolutionary Friekorps proto-fascists prior to being butchered, Rosa Luxemburg summed up the crisis facing the workers’ movement she’d helped to inspire and lead in Germany, and which had just culminated in a failed uprising:

These events are a tremendous school for the masses…One must take history as it comes…At this moment in Berlin the battles are continuing. Many of our brave lads have fallen…For today, I have to close.


In our time, Corbyn inspired and led his own failed uprising — a democratic uprising — and likewise is now suffering the consequences of defeat, measured in the ferocious and fierce backlash of the Establishment media and a reinvigorated Blairite core within the Labour Party. The objective now is not only to bury Corbyn (metaphorically speaking), but the very ideas he represents; doing so with the gusto of a status quo that has just beaten off the most serious challenge to its dominance in decades.

The barrage of invective that has been directed at Jeremy Corbyn in the aftermath of a general election which proved to be a second referendum on Brexit in all but name, only reveals that socialism — the idea of a society underpinned by human solidarity rather than human greed — continues to strike terror in the hearts and minds of the servants of capital in our world.

For such people poverty, homelessness and human despair are an unavoidable consequence of the unfettered reach for profit. In such a scenario the rich are the salt of the earth, to whom the spoils of class war rightly belong, while the poor are just so much human flotsam and jetsam, whose condition is that of the defeated army in this class war and as such wholly in keeping with the natural order of things.

History is replete with examples of the savage reprisals of the rich and their servants in the wake of a determined attempt to challenge their power from below. Such examples stretch all the way back to the days of the Roman Empire, most prominently encapsulated in the story of Spartacus and the slave revolt he led.

Here, as Aldo Schiavone points out: ‘Spartacus’s defiance was a radically different matter (from that of Hannibal and the Gauls, etc), almost unspeakable for the dominant culture, the symbol of extreme subversion, of a dramatic break in the “natural” order of things…He was a slave in revolt, at the head of an army consisting largely of men in the same condition, who had succeeded in threatening the very heart of the imperial system.’

Such failed attempts at toppling the status quo, whether in antiquity, whether in the context of the 1848 pan-Europe revolutions, the Paris Commune of 1871, the late-19th century and early-20th century Labor Wars in America, have each met with similar bloody reprisals.

In our time, in the context of a Corbyn-led project not so much to topple the status quo as change it, though the reprisal in the wake of his defeat may not be bloody, it certainly has been unleashed with the same objective of crushing any prospect of another such attempt at social and economic transformation being possible for many years to come, driving home the message this is the best of all possible worlds — one in which nothing more than the most tepid reforms are either acceptable or workable.

We all have our reasons for why Labour lost the election so emphatically — Brexit, media bias, smear campaigns surrounding antisemitism, and so on. The bald truth is that the real reason Labour and Corbyn lost is to be found in the axiom that those who make revolution halfway dig their own grave. The aforementioned cocktail of attacks on Corbyn and his allies could only have been defeated if fire had been fought with fire.

The fault here lies not with Jeremy Corbyn, however. It lies instead with a PLP and Momentum leadership that was either complicit in the war waged against his leadership, or lifted hardly a finger to oppose it. Corbyn himself has been immense over these past four years, struggling manfully to lead a grassroots movements into battle against the fortress of cruelty, brutality and mendacity which ‘they’ have the temerity to describe as a civilised society — this previously mentioned best of all possible worlds.

In the opening chapter of his Communist Hypothesis, sub-titled ‘Preamble: What Is Called Failure’, Alan Badiou writes: ‘What exactly do we mean by ‘failure’ when we refer to a historical sequence that experimented with one or another form of the communist hypothesis?’ He goes on: ‘Was it a complete failure? By which I mean: does it require us to abandon the hypothesis itself, and to renounce the whole problem of emancipation? Or was it merely a relative failure? Was it a failure because of the form it took or the path it explored? Was it a failure that simply proves that it was not the right way to resolve the initial problem?’

The reality, which in their hubris and ignorance of the human condition, those engaged in the anti-Corbyn pile-on now underway have failed to grasp, is that there is no final defeat or final victory. There is only struggle, sometimes open sometimes hidden, but permanent as long as injustice is the lived experience of the many and greed that of the few.

Ultimately, speaking figuratively, Jeremy Corbyn was our Father Gapon, the cleric who led a failed attempt to win succour for the suffering masses of Russia in 1905 by appealing to the Tsar’s better nature. The result was Bloody Sunday, which was a spark for that year’s brief revolution, which in turn was the prelude to 1917.

So, yes, Corbyn was our Father Gapon. They have yet to meet our Lenin.

End.

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Dec 19, 2019

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

AceClown posted:

It's online and it's really something.

He actually tries to play off that hiding in a fridge and stealing a reporters phone were PR masterstrokes

thing is they kind of were. i think a lot of people enjoyed him blatantly turning the whole election into a farce, getting andrew neil to mewl into the camera, just being a pure bastard over the photo of the kid in hospital, etc. that's where he's a bit like trump, he's every oval office's fantasy of how they'd be if they had the money and power. this country doesn't lack for that kind of spite.

gh0stpinballa fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Dec 19, 2019

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






Rarity posted:

Thanks to everyone who dropped in to the Solidarity Fund meeting. We had a really good discussion and nailed down a decent sketch of how this could look. Notes of the meeting have been taken and are pinned up in the solidarity channel on Discord for anybody who would like to take a look. The fund will be run by a 5-person committee (with potential to increase in size in needed) to authorise pay-outs with a separate account manager actually running the bank account for the fund. The next step will be to decide on the committee members which will be decided by a democratic vote of all UKMT goons. If you would like to put yourself forward for the committee please let me know by personal message either on SA or on Discord. As it's the holidays the nomination period closes at the end of the year. Voting will take place in the new year.

Also we think we may need legal advice on this before we set up the actual bank account. Are there any goons who would be able to help with this? (Borrovan, Beefeater1990, Necrothatcher, your names were suggested specficially?)

Regarding the fund, it’s a good initiative. I’m not qualified any more to give legal advice on English law (haven’t practised in 5+ years and trusts/charities wasn’t my area), but I put a few thoughts below. These arrangements can get quite complex so it’s definitely worth contacting community legal services for some up to date legal advice.

Couple of thoughts:

* If the sums of money involved are small, it probably doesn’t need to be too formal. The key work to do is in managing the accounts; accurately tracking how much has come in and how much is going out, and where it’s going. That’s where things can go wrong.

* Setting up a separate bank account isn’t strictly necessary but is a VERY good idea as it makes tracking a lot easier and avoids mingling the support funds with anyone’s private money (which is the kind of situation long messy lawsuits are made of).

* You probably want to set it up as an Unincorporated Association, IE a group that doesn’t have legal personality. The benefit is that it is easy to administer - all you need is a constitution. The downside is that it doesn’t really do anything special - it can have a bank account in its name but not much else.

* As it’s benefiting just a few people (goons their associates, say) and not the general public as a whole I don’t think you’d be able to register it as charitable, which would provide tax benefits for donors living in the UK.

* Logistically, you want to go into a high street bank and ask to set up a clubs and societies account. Rule of thumb is 2 signatories so that nobody can scarper with all the money in a giant bag marked “swag”.

You’ve probably seen it already but there is a good website that walks through all this step by step here: https://www.resourcecentre.org.uk/information/legal-structures-for-community-and-voluntary-groups/

I think they also compare the various high street bank club/society accounts.

* On a practical note, it’s a good idea to get a receipt from everyone who is given funds at the time they receive it, setting out the full amount they received, to help with record keeping and avoid arguments later. Best practice is a signed piece of paper but tbh an email saying “I acknowledge receipt of £x.xx” is just as good.

* Be very mindful of fraud and cybercrime - small accounts like this are often targeted because they don’t have a lot of support to investigate. Be very suspicious of wired instructions to change the recipient’s bank account etc, and verify through a second channel that it’s really the same person. I’ve seen actual CFOs at major companies fail to do this and it’s hilarious embarrassing and career-threatening.

* If you’re going to do anything more for anyone than financial support, like provide services or whatever, get a simple waiver of liability. Nothing messes up a voluntary support group faster than getting sued because someone didn’t like the way you helped them.

Paracaidas
Sep 24, 2016
Consistently Tedious!

Angepain posted:

If he's writing for the Spectator does that mean Tom Stoppard is cancelled now. I quite liked arcadia

Let them have the Spectator, they cannot have the Stoppard.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

I ended up getting a promotion out of it, then a transfer to the other side of the city, then quitting in the most "I am done with this poo poo" way possible all in the space of six months

So, both then.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Is there a breakdown on who the 10 million Labour voters are? Are they young, old, varied, educated, low earners, high earners, loyal to the party regardless of its leanings, voting only on certain issues, tactical voters. Is there any surveying of who the party base actually is today?

Also, who stayed at home? What did they think?

Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Dec 19, 2019

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

OwlFancier posted:

Excited for the future where it's just the strogg from quake 4.



Apparently the leader of the Strogg is called Makron.

Carborundum
Feb 21, 2013

Azza Bamboo posted:

Is there a breakdown on who the 10 million Labour voters are? Are they young, old, varied, educated, low earners, high earners, loyal to the party regardless of its leanings, voting only on certain issues, tactical voters. Is there any surveying of who the party base actually is today?

Also, who stayed at home? What did they think?

Looking at Wikipedia and talking out of my arse but...

The lib dem vote share went up from 2.3 million to 3.7million. Got to assume a lot of those were tactical votes, 2017 Labour voters who bought some version of the mainstream media narrative about Corbyn, or single issue remainers.

SNP went from about 1 million to 1.2, greens from 500k to 800k. So can't vote for Corbyn or Boris strong remainer types maybe. Tories went from 13.6 to 14million. I suppose these are the northern former Labour leave voters who happen to be in marginal constituencies.

And I guess turnout was down 69 to 67 for a number of reasons. Winter vs summer? Election fatigue?

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

True story: I once got employee of the month at McDs in Brum for opening the shop because the manager who was supposed to start at 6am didn't turn up until 7:55 and we were supposed to open at 6:30am. Of course, before that happened, one of the other managers bollocked me for doing so but gently caress em, we had a till float, we had people in the kitchen, we could do it

You should have barricaded the doors when the manager showed up and demanded to negotiate as a collective with Ronald McDonald himself :hai:

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Bundy posted:

Braggart posted:

I got employee of the month by saving up my turds and taking them home :smug:

I found where you keep them!

Ah, my treasure trove of nuggets of wisdom and pissdom :smug:

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1207342372520103939?s=19

Can't get him for an interview but can get his almost certainly ghost written diary in your lovely fascist magazine.

loving hell, enjoy some racist gloating from Rod Liddle:

The Spectator posted:

Let’s make David Lammy Labour’s next leader

It is a little over four years since The Spectator journalist Prince Andrew wannabe Toby Young joined the Labour party for three quid in order to vote for Jeremy Corbyn as leader. May I be the first to suggest that we should all do the same thing now, as Jeremy will soon, sadly, be going?

We need to ensure that Labour sticks to the exciting radical platform that has so appealed to voters.

We need to choose someone devoid of even the slenderest vestiges of sentience and who the general public will quickly come to detest.

The obvious candidate is Diane Abbott, but I don’t think she’s a runner.

Rebecca Long-Bailey would be good and Richard Burgon even better.

But to really take things forward for the party and estrange the last few remaining potential Labour voters, it surely has to be Lammy.

Get signed up here now!


Go sign up to make Rod Liddle unhappy :getin:

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

It’s the first time in years that the left have gained ascendency in the Labour Party, unfortunately this is a decades long project but young people and their iPads and Grindr (glindr?) have been dopamine overdosed to have the patience of knats and expected a solid left political tsunami yesterday

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Jel Shaker posted:

It’s the first time in years that the left have gained ascendency in the Labour Party, unfortunately this is a decades long project but young people and their iPads and Grindr (glindr?) have been dopamine overdosed to have the patience of knats and expected a solid left political tsunami yesterday

Comment?

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.
Oh no. The commentariat is coming from inside the thread.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

AceClown posted:

It's online and it's really something.

He actually tries to play off that hiding in a fridge and stealing a reporters phone were PR masterstrokes

There's been a lot of revisionism going on in general, someone claimed yesterday that the result was a rejection of Labour's scaremongering on the NHS.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Give it a few weeks and Laura K will be going on about how Johnson's fantastic Andrew Neil performance swung the election.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Jel Shaker posted:

It’s the first time in years that the left have gained ascendency in the Labour Party, unfortunately this is a decades long project but young people and their iPads and Grindr (glindr?) have been dopamine overdosed to have the patience of knats and expected a solid left political tsunami yesterday

I think shellshocked lefties are going to be the engine that drives that tsunami going forward. This is the most naked the anti-left bias and corruption have been in a very long time, and it's going to provide new recruits with hardened hearts for the pleas of the centre. Some of them can't even vote yet, but they will soon.

quote:

Grindr (glindr?)

Beavr Bothr

:dksays:

Carborundum
Feb 21, 2013

Jel Shaker posted:

It’s the first time in years that the left have gained ascendency in the Labour Party, unfortunately this is a decades long project but young people and their iPads and Grindr (glindr?) have been dopamine overdosed to have the patience of knats and expected a solid left political tsunami yesterday

It's okay to be sad for a while when you lose.

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Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

Braggart posted:

I think shellshocked lefties are going to be the engine that drives that tsunami going forward. This is the most naked the anti-left bias and corruption have been in a very long time, and it's going to provide new recruits with hardened hearts for the pleas of the centre. Some of them can't even vote yet, but they will soon.

When? In 2025 after the Tories have had 5 years to introduce voter ID and every other suppression tactic they can find? In 2030 when the government has granted itself emergency powers to deal with the surge of climate refugees?

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