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GalacticAcid posted:Happy birthday dude
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:There's also a lot that could've happened differently in the 80s and even up to 1990 that could've saved the Soviet Union. It wasn't "doomed" from the start. Maybe the revolution would've failed or whatever, but even a degenerated workers' state ala China would be better than the full on shock doctrine of the 90s and Putinism today.
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The Soviet Union was doomed from the start because they did not allow introverted nerds like me to play video games 24/7. Yeah I don't give a poo poo if the people need wheat Joe, there's a new nude mod for Skyrim out and it's gonna take me like 20 hours to get it working properly.
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The Bolsheviks began oppressing gamers when they stopped production of playing cards to conserve paper that was the beginning of communist project's downfall
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I’m not a scientist but it’s probably hard to maintain a socialist revolution when the US is out there wantonly killing millions to stop it
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i wish ho chi minh were still alive so he could slap you
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It is astounding that tens of millions of people can call themselves "progressives" without a clear idea of what they're progressing towards. gosh this hits hard. you'd think most people would be re-evaluating their life choices if they were on the Obama train and he just signed a drone strike order that murks a teenage American boy, but nope! it's all mental gymnastics and triangulation because the two party system holds America in a death grip and people can't imagine anything different or any significant changes. the lack of agency and even DESIRE for agency amongst the American body politic is astonishing
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seeing ppl call jk rowling a terf, i'm sure she said some appalling rich lady garbage (don't care what, she's worthless) but it's a bit odd to me how that term has been expanded to encompass all transphobic people. like most of these people are certainly not "radical feminists" ~ trans exclusionary or otherwise. not going anywhere with this, just a thought
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GalacticAcid posted:seeing ppl call jk rowling a terf, i'm sure she said some appalling rich lady garbage (don't care what, she's worthless) tef isn't a 4 letter word
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Dec 19, 2019 18:10
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:tef isn't a 4 letter word 
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GalacticAcid posted:seeing ppl call jk rowling a terf, i'm sure she said some appalling rich lady garbage (don't care what, she's worthless) Yeah, I think it's just because terf sounds snappier than transphobe
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Dec 19, 2019 18:17
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TERF is a slur (and that’s good)
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Not gonna lie but Trump is kinda TERFy
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GalacticAcid posted:seeing ppl call jk rowling a terf, i'm sure she said some appalling rich lady garbage (don't care what, she's worthless) I mean it’s an appropriate short-hand for the rhetoric she decided to espouse. We call people appropriate ideological labels all the time even if they don’t really self-identify with the rhetoric they’re using. edit: to be clear she’s also sucked for a really long time this is just now a way that’s harder to publicly defend lol.
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it's like how you can shorten "liberal who collaborates with and/or materially supports nazis" to "nazi", it's about visibly identifying the group that benefits from their actions and snappily cutting away their ability to distance themselves from the consequences of their rhetoric and who it empowers. in rowling's case though she absolutely portrays herself as a radical feminist, especially by proxy through her authorship of the character hermione, and the term fits anyways.
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Lightning Knight posted:even if they don’t really self-identify with the rhetoric they’re using oh to be clear my post was not at all about respecting someone's right to 'self-identify' with an ideological label
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GalacticAcid posted:oh to be clear my post was not at all about respecting someone's right to 'self-identify' with an ideological label ok then I don’t think I understood. sorry, ignore me!
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yeah terf is useful for calling out people that use feminist rhetoric to justify transphobia which at this point is basically all liberal transphobes
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Percelus posted:i wish ho chi minh were still alive
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is it, though. its just an insult. im not sure that useful for calling out anyone about anything. its good for yelling at people though. like im not gonna pretend me calling people liberals all the time is at all useful to the socialist project but it does make me feel better. just be honest with yourself.
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IWW Online Branch posted:The Soviet Union was doomed from the start because they did not allow introverted nerds like me to play video games 24/7. Yeah I don't give a poo poo if the people need wheat Joe, there's a new nude mod for Skyrim out and it's gonna take me like 20 hours to get it working properly. Maybe stalins wife wouldn't have died if she had stayed near a gaming rig instead
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Arguing that "TERF" isn't exactly accurate because it sometimes gets used against people who aren't "feminists" in the first place, much less a "radical feminist", is kind of like that meltdown in the Hot Takes thread the other day where "anti-semitism" as referring to Jews isn't accurate because Palestinians are also Semites. Everyone already understands what it means, and language is descriptive, not prescriptive.
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that wasnt really my argument but whatever
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gradenko_2000 posted:Arguing that "TERF" isn't exactly accurate because it sometimes gets used against people who aren't "feminists" in the first place, much less a "radical feminist", is kind of like that meltdown I mean I don’t think anybody is arguing or melting down here lol, but I see your point
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gradenko_2000 posted:Arguing that "TERF" isn't exactly accurate because it sometimes gets used against people who aren't "feminists" in the first place, much less a "radical feminist", is kind of like that meltdown in the Hot Takes thread the other day where "anti-semitism" as referring to Jews isn't accurate because Palestinians are also Semites. this was over a year ago, but I definitely had to explain what a TERF was to my coworkers one day, which was a group of pretty well informed, college educated young people. The only person who'd heard the term before was borderline alt-right. It's not a common term at all, and not many people actually understand what it means. Anti-semitism meanwhile has been used to describe hatred of Jews for decades and is commonly understood as such by most people.
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anyone got any good recommendations for books on the neoliberal charity model? i'm working on my paper for this conference and i need some good sources that articulate the sort broad in-the-world manifestation of the charity industrial complex that I would like to use as part of my broader argument about charitable giving as a mechanism to sustain the capitalist discourse and it's monopoly on the idea of benevolence something like this but with more of an emphasis on the social role charity plays in capitalism, as well as it's general position in the liberal worldview vis-a-vis misery in the modern world https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/12/18/21010108/larry-page-philanthropy-foundation-donor-advised-fund-christmas Frog Act fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Dec 20, 2019 |
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Dec 20, 2019 16:07
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check out this article from Sophia Burns: https://godsandradicals.org/2018/01/11/the-democratic-party-is-not-what-you-think/
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just charity or NGOs in general? I remember having read a book describing the privatization of Wisconsin's social service providers in the 1990s I've been meaning to track down again.
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Frog Act posted:anyone got any good recommendations for books on the neoliberal charity model? i'm working on my paper for this conference and i need some good sources that articulate the sort broad in-the-world manifestation of the charity industrial complex that I would like to use as part of my broader argument about charitable giving as a mechanism to sustain the capitalist discourse and it's monopoly on the idea of benevolence I've heard With Charity for All critiques it from the perspective of someone who was in the nonprofit sector for a while but even without having read it I can be almost certain that those critiques will be very liberal
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Atrocious Joe posted:just charity or NGOs in general? I remember having read a book describing the privatization of Wisconsin's social service providers in the 1990s I've been meaning to track down again. both, since NGOs are essentially the international arm of neoliberal monopolization of benevolence. the paper is basically about how capitalist models of "mutual aid" are actually a type of artificial negativity, and will be contrasted with theoretically more effective state-mediated forms of aid that don't serve that same discursive purpose CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:check out this article from Sophia Burns: thanks! CYBEReris posted:I've heard With Charity for All critiques it from the perspective of someone who was in the nonprofit sector for a while but even without having read it I can be almost certain that those critiques will be very liberal I'll look this up because I want to honestly integrate Liberal perspectives into the paper so I can properly critique them. the audience i'm reading for is going to be mostly composed of weird niche academics specifically invested in anti-Liberal philosophies (not so much illiberalism) so I expect them to be looking for an honest, accurate assessment of the way Libs perceive charitable institutions and their criticisms of them
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zizek talked about this at length in his RSA lecture, they made one of those fancypants RSAnimates out of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpAMbpQ8J7g
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tarence trillbilly wrote an essay that got him fired from the nonprofit world but I dont have it handy
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3 posted:zizek talked about this at length in his RSA lecture, they made one of those fancypants RSAnimates out of it: yeah this owns
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I'm thinking back to my undergrad days in an extremely neoliberal program, but I'm pretty sure Government Matters by Mead is at least one of the books I'm recalling. Just skimming through samples on google books, Chapter 7, about implementation of the new program, jumps out to me. It's pro-privatization, so it gives you the neo-liberal, kill the poor view. It emphasized how Wisconsin Governor Thompsons "empowered" NGOs, often ones with decent backgrounds in oppressed communities, to tackle poverty. This of course was a sham to kill welfare and helped transform Wisconsin into the right to work state it is today. https://search.proquest.com/openview/45cdb1fecbb6f19f1af715d5b2b335c3/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=36825
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i say swears online posted:tarence trillbilly wrote an essay that got him fired from the nonprofit world but I dont have it handy tarence ray maybe it's this? https://thebaffler.com/salvos/hollowed-out-ray
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Stolen from capitalism.png thread:
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WampaLord posted:Stolen from capitalism.png thread: that reddit guy may be dumb but you gotta admit itd be pretty cool to have a world sized ghost give us communism
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p. hosed up to say the socialism ghost isn't real right before marxmas
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its amazing when you think about because there is a zombie, skeleton and ghost in each person 
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