|
Fritz Coldcockin posted:Don't forget Gardner. He's essentially a dead man walking what with Hickenlooper running for Senate. Gardner is dead and buried. But, he isn't independently wealthy or anything. He's always been around at the right place and the right time. He won't bite the hand that feeds.
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 15:02
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 07:41 |
|
|
update: https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1207664468437749761 it appears trump hasn't been officially impeached because the Marshall of the Supreme Court has not served him an Impeachment Warrant yet. i take no pleasure in reporting this
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 15:11
|
|
|
The coward deleted it. What did he say?
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 15:20
|
|
|
If this country had real politics Democrats would be mobilizing mass protests in the streets demanding his and pence's resignation.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 15:39
|
|
|
"Remember all those things democrats voted against before? Clearly a witch hunt." -Mitch McConnell
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 15:40
|
|
|
My chud brother texted me pro-Trump impeachment memes this morning. Ugh.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 15:44
|
|
|
whydirt posted:My chud brother texted me pro-Trump impeachment memes this morning. Ugh. Just quote the transcript back to him.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 15:47
|
|
|
ummel posted:"Remember all those things democrats voted against before? Clearly a witch hunt." He loving knows they talked about impeaching Clinton on day one and he wants to act all "How dare you!" to Democrats wanting to impeach Trump.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 15:47
|
|
|
Lets all keep in mind the terrible precedent this now sets as we finally realize that Republicans will now 'Really Really Really' try and impeach every Democrat president immediately upon them taking office instead of just 'really really really' trying.....
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 15:49
|
|
|
whydirt posted:My chud brother texted me pro-Trump impeachment memes this morning. Ugh. Do what I do with one of my close yet unfortunately pro-Trump friends, which is laugh condescendingly, mock them, and move on to more fun topics.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 15:50
|
|
|
DandyLion posted:Lets all keep in mind the terrible precedent this now sets as we finally realize that Republicans will now 'Really Really Really' try and impeach every Democrat president immediately upon them taking office instead of just 'really really really' trying.....
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 15:51
|
|
|
Xanderkish posted:Do what I do with one of my close yet unfortunately pro-Trump friends, which is laugh condescendingly, mock them, and move on to more fun topics. Or reply with a British upper crust accent. Faili that, the Long Patrol/Redwall accent aught to do it "I say, these chaps are right cheesed off an' worried, wot wot?"
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 15:55
|
|
|
whydirt posted:My chud brother texted me pro-Trump impeachment memes this morning. Ugh. Seems like a good opportunity for a goatse.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 16:01
|
|
|
DandyLion posted:Lets all keep in mind the terrible precedent this now sets as we finally realize that Republicans will now 'Really Really Really' try and impeach every Democrat president immediately upon them taking office instead of just 'really really really' trying..... Threats of Republicans acting disingenuously is not a valid reason for not doing the right thing. RWM is going to RWM. Trump is going to Trump. Congressional Repubs are going to Congressional Repub. RWM is going to RWM. Chuds are going to Chud. They're going to act like they act regardless. They shouldn't be the focus of anything but derision.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 16:02
|
|
|
highme posted:Threats of Republicans acting disingenuously is not a valid reason for not doing the right thing. RWM is going to RWM. Trump is going to Trump. Congressional Repubs are going to Congressional Repub. RWM is going to RWM. Chuds are going to Chud. Right on. Its just funny to hear them threaten to do what they've been doing.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 16:04
|
|
|
Certain piece of irony having the gravedigger talk about a low bar for impeachment when the Republicans tried to impeach Clinton over sex acts.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 16:05
|
|
|
DandyLion posted:Right on. poo poo, my bad, I completely missed your derision.  I see way too much "RWM gonna spin **fart**" around here and was reacting to that as well.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 16:08
|
|
|
Schumer is giving a great speech on the Senate floor right now.
BigBallChunkyTime fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Dec 19, 2019 |
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 16:18
|
|
|
BigBallChunkyTime posted:Schumer is govt a great speech on the Senate floor right now. I like what he is saying. I just kind of wish he could say it better.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 16:20
|
|
|
Madkal posted:I like what he is saying. I just kind of wish he could say it better. Is anything more Chuck Schumer than that, though?
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 16:27
|
|
|
Schum Gang
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 16:30
|
|
|
Will take small victories. I understand Trump being removed from office is extremely unlikely, but this still feels good. What he did with Ukraine was extremely bad, so not letting anyone convince me otherwise that impeachment was unwarranted or had some hidden agenda behind it.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 16:35
|
|
|
The 7th Guest posted:I thought about that and the inevitable result of that would be President Pelosi, so that would cool their brakes Not sure you've thought that all the way through there
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 16:45
|
|
|
Hamelekim posted:The rage, it’s palpable and so delicious. Donald Trump talks like my late grandfather used to. That's the thing that strikes me every time I listen to him speak. It's the cadence, the mid-sentence digressions, the particular tone he takes when he says something he knows is mean or insulting. He pronounces things differently and has that distinctly Trumpy vocal quality obviously but the rhythm and cadence are remarkably similar and it's loving uncanny. If he'd been alive to vote for Trump he would've done so gleefully, too. Dude had a steady dripfeed of Fox News directly into his eyeballs almost to the very end.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 16:49
|
|
|
Besesoth posted:We've known forever that he uses lovely bronzer. His aides confirmed it within the last 30 days. He just applied it badly today. Aside from the application being done poorly, he is such a weird darker color I wonder if he will have transitioned to full on blackface by the debates.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 17:07
|
|
|
Harrow posted:Donald Trump talks like my late grandfather used to. That's the thing that strikes me every time I listen to him speak. It's the cadence, the mid-sentence digressions, the particular tone he takes when he says something he knows is mean or insulting. He pronounces things differently and has that distinctly Trumpy vocal quality obviously but the rhythm and cadence are remarkably similar and it's loving uncanny. it's funny, unlike every other rich rear end in a top hat you can 100% tell trump is from new york, he never explored, never branched out, never used his money to go anywhere but pedophile parties. he's lead a sad, pathetically small life. And he is the president!
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 17:07
|
|
|
Munkeymon posted:Not sure you've thought that all the way through there e: right it'd have to be a repub house/speaker to do an impeach i gotcha The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Dec 19, 2019 |
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 17:09
|
|
|
Something I don't get about the obstruction of congress charge, sorry if it's been discussed - what is the proposed legal defense for the administration refusing to comply with congressional subpeonas? So far, what I've seen is bare assertions from Republicans and White House counsel that the impeachment investigation is "baseless" and therefore they don't have to comply. Is there any sort of Constitutional or legal basis to that? Like, if I'm served a congressional subpeona can I just say "nuh-uh, you don't have a case!" and refuse to comply? Because I'm pretty sure that's not how it works. As Trump has explicitly stated he will blanket refuse to cooperate, "obstruction of congress" doesn't seem debatable or to have any gray area like the Republicans are trying to pretend exists with the abuse of power charge. Am I missing something, or is it just that obstruction is seen as less egregious than withholding military aid from Ukraine?
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 17:22
|
|
|
The right-wing radio talk show host in Colorado who wished for a school shooting yesterday lost his show the same day. "Bonniwell quickly tried to back off from the statement, saying he would want a shooting “in which no one would be hurt,” but the damage had already been done. By the end of the day, the couple’s conservative show was canceled by the Aurora, Colo., radio station 710 KNUS." https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/12/19/conservative-radio-host-wishes-colorado-school-shooting-during-trump-impeachment/
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 17:23
|
|
|
Rust Martialis posted:The right-wing radio talk show host in Colorado who wished for a school shooting yesterday lost his show the same day. 710 KNUS is one of my local talk radio stations. They are extremely Nazi friendly. They also fired a host mid show after he was critical of Trump. I hope they catch as much poo poo as possible for this
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 17:25
|
|
|
brae posted:Something I don't get about the obstruction of congress charge, sorry if it's been discussed - what is the proposed legal defense for the administration refusing to comply with congressional subpeonas? Blanket application of executive privilege, the legitimacy of which is slowly (very slowly) moving its way towards the Supreme Court.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 17:26
|
|
|
Madkal posted:Certain piece of irony having the gravedigger talk about a low bar for impeachment when the Republicans tried to impeach Clinton over sex acts. They didn’t even do that! They impeached him for lying about sex acts. I’m pretty sure that no Republican thought the actual abuse part (sex with a subordinate) was bad - they mostly made noises about infidelity. Stickman fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Dec 19, 2019 |
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 17:36
|
|
|
Rust Martialis posted:The right-wing radio talk show host in Colorado who wished for a school shooting yesterday lost his show the same day. hahahah. eat poo poo rear end in a top hat. also i love that he can't just say "yeah it was lovely of me to say that" he has to say "well i hope no one dies" loving rear end in a top hat.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 17:36
|
|
|
Did Pelosi do her press conference yet?
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 17:40
|
|
|
Djarum posted:You are an outlier my friend. I have had the conversation with most of my friends over the years about this stuff and nearly no one had good education on this stuff in school. Generally you got a basic understanding of the three branches of government and a slight overview of how laws are passed but that is it. loving School House Rock had more depth than most curriculum on it. I went through all 12 grades of school and was interested in politics since I was a kid and I said "the House and the Congress" for years until I was 19 when my girlfriend said, "It's the House and the Senate, they're both part of the Congress. You sound like a dipshit when you say it wrong." And I was interested and trying to learn. In my 30s I've had to explain to people that the Earth revolves around the sun not the other way around, and that stars are just suns that are far away. The star thing blew their goddamn minds. We have a bad education system. Rust Martialis posted:The right-wing radio talk show host in Colorado who wished for a school shooting yesterday lost his show the same day. Him taking a call from a listener from Littleton right after he said that is just so amazing. 1glitch0 fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Dec 19, 2019 |
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 17:45
|
|
|
1glitch0 posted:I went through all 12 grades of school and was interested in politics since I was a kid and I said "the House and the Congress" for years until I was 19 when my girlfriend said, "It's the House and the Senate, they're both part of the Congress. You sound like a dipshit when you say it wrong." And I was interested and trying to learn. In my 30s I've had to explain to people that the Earth revolves around the sun not the other way around, and that stars are just suns that are far away. The star thing blew their goddamn minds. We have a bad education system. we could have the best education system in the world and people are still going to be dumb as gently caress.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 17:52
|
|
|
bird cooch posted:we could have the best education system in the world and people are still going to be dumb as gently caress. The education system, much like every social system in the United States, has been balkanized by wealth inequality.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 17:57
|
|
|
brae posted:Something I don't get about the obstruction of congress charge, sorry if it's been discussed - what is the proposed legal defense for the administration refusing to comply with congressional subpeonas? No, there is no merit whatever to Trump's claims of executive privilege. EP has to be asserted on a question by question basis, it does not preclude a witness from even showing up. The whole point is to delay the witnesses and release of documents until after the election. As with the abuse of power charge, there is no defense. Republicans are just spouting nonsense because they're obligated to say something.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 17:59
|
|
|
brae posted:Something I don't get about the obstruction of congress charge, sorry if it's been discussed - what is the proposed legal defense for the administration refusing to comply with congressional subpeonas? Deteriorata posted:No, there is no merit whatever to Trump's claims of executive privilege. EP has to be asserted on a question by question basis, it does not preclude a witness from even showing up. to be clear, while Deteriorata isn't wrong, Trump has not ever claimed executive privilege about anything here, he's asserted "absolute immunity" to everything, something even more nonsensical and illegal
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 18:06
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 31, 2024 07:41 |
|
|
Pelosi should hold the articles until the election or whatever causes the trial to go beyond January 2021 so the Senate can get a new makeup/maybe Mitch is defeated. I had no idea she could hold them at all.
|
|
#
?
Dec 19, 2019 18:12
|
|
