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Same. It's why I often just post fantasy stuff in the isekai threads because so much fantasy is just isekai anyway that nobody will really notice that half of the stories don't involve isekai stuff.
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There are definitely isekai stories that are just "the creator clearly wanted to write a fantasy story and threw in a protagonist from another world." Faraway Paladin comes to mind even though I haven't read the novel so maybe it's more present there. And of course, there's the background element that lots of successful LNs come from amateur writers who started on WNs and found it easier to write a hero like themselves. But even when that isn't the case, it's natural that the hook fades into the background, since it's just an origin story. The hero is naturally going to make friends and meet people in the actual setting of the story, and readers doesn't care about their original family who got like two seconds of development. Like, Ascendance of a Bookworm takes the premise way more seriously than most of the other stuff I've read; Myne finds it hard to care about her "friends" and "family", characters are shocked and suspicious when she knows things she shouldn't, and so on. But by necessity by the end of the first book she belongs in the new world, not the old one. I think that's why the series where the isekai element works best are the comedies. Bakarina is a bunch of jokes about how Katarina takes the premise of the setting to ludicrous conclusions. Or like, the joke of Tanya the Evil is that everyone thinks Tanya is a bloodthirsty warrior but she's actually a corporate climber sent to war. It's a premise for light stories, not dark ones.
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Nalin posted:Same. It's why I often just post fantasy stuff in the isekai threads because so much fantasy is just isekai anyway that nobody will really notice that half of the stories don't involve isekai stuff. You might like this one which I've been wanting to post about but it's not an isekai at all just straight up fantasy (also I've been waiting for it to finish and it hasn't yet). Josei fantasy manga published in the 80s, 1 volume, finally has a translation being worked on. The art is really neat and it's got an interesting story, and should be completely translated before too much longer since they're putting out chapters at a good pace.
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Anyone else having trouble accessing this (Yakuza Reincarnation) on Mangadex? I keep getting a “this manga is unavailable” message.
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Dec 20, 2019 01:15
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DaveWoo posted:Anyone else having trouble accessing this (Yakuza Reincarnation) on Mangadex? I keep getting a “this manga is unavailable” message. Same, it's been like that for a week or so for me.
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Dec 20, 2019 01:23
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it's probably been flagged as "logged in users only" a couple of manga are like that now
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Dec 20, 2019 01:24
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TheFlyingLlama posted:it's probably been flagged as "logged in users only" That seems to be the case. I can open it just fine when I'm logged in, but if I try to open it in an incognito tab it gives me an error.
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Any good isekais where a dude is isekai'd as a woman? There's the yakuza one upthread thats cool I suppose I'll take bad isekais if needed
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Dec 20, 2019 02:50
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Any good isekais where a dude is isekai'd as a woman? There's the yakuza one upthread thats cool And most good ones have the mc almost forget that she had a different gender originally. Here are those that I remember offhand as good: https://www.novelupdates.com/series/dragons-bloodline/ https://www.novelupdates.com/series/im-back-in-the-other-world/ There is also that "so bad I can't look away" story. Where the MC takes over 50 chapters to finish toilet training, but manages to molest all the maids by chapter 60. https://www.novelupdates.com/series/nigotta-hitomi-no-lilianne/ e: forgot that this isn't the novel thread, whatever.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Any good isekais where a dude is isekai'd as a woman? There's the yakuza one upthread thats cool This one is pretty decent, but the different gender thing is barely relevant. It’s a game isekai though. https://mangadex.org/title/21944/yasei-no-last-boss-ga-arawareta
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Any good isekais where a dude is isekai'd as a woman? There's the yakuza one upthread thats cool https://mangadex.org/title/43291/middle-aged-man-s-noble-daughter-reincarnation "Description: The mangaka of Zoids drew the sort of Villainess Otome Isekai story he would like to see."
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Nipponophile posted:https://mangadex.org/title/43291/middle-aged-man-s-noble-daughter-reincarnation This is really good.
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RatHat posted:This one is pretty decent, but the different gender thing is barely relevant. It’s a game isekai though. I binged through this the other day. I liked it enough. Nipponophile posted:https://mangadex.org/title/43291/middle-aged-man-s-noble-daughter-reincarnation hahaha, Zoids was rad Do actual zoids show up in this
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Not yet, but the protagonist remembers them from Earth.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Any good isekais where a dude is isekai'd as a woman? There's the yakuza one upthread thats cool isn't this tanya the evil's deal?
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ninjewtsu posted:isn't this tanya the evil's deal? Yeah but he doesn't really care about it so it's barely a plot point
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It barely comes up besides Tanya being mentally scarred over a nurse trying to explain puberty to the Empire's littlest mage ace.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Any good isekais where a dude is isekai'd as a woman? There's the yakuza one upthread thats cool This started just recently but it's funny enough https://mangadex.org/title/43540/fantasy-bishoujo-juniku-ojisan-to
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Artificer posted:What are some good isekais where the protagonist or some friends that have spooky powers or powers or skills normally attached to evil characters? But are good people? The Maou Army's Strongest Magician Was a Human The MC is a human but he's a general in the demon lord's army, conquering the world. Except he's not conquering by killing humans, just taking over their towns and making them pay him taxes instead of their human lord. He's working towards a world where humans and demons coexist peacefully, and avoiding civilian casualties as a result of that goal. It might get bad later on, but right now it's decent. UNRELATED TO THAT!!!! I'm a Villainous Daughter, so I'm going to keep the Last Boss ended. It was a nice little fluffy story about an Isekai'ed girl seducing the demon lord. Short but fun. If you have any interest in otome isekai you should check it out. khy fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Dec 21, 2019 |
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Ah I just finished that one! Thanks for the first one!
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khy posted:
If the last page is anything to go by, it is also Part 1 of a story. Anyone knows if this is a novel adaptation?
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Siegkrow posted:If the last page is anything to go by, it is also Part 1 of a story. Anyone knows if this is a novel adaptation?
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VictualSquid posted:There are lots of bad isekais in that category, most of them are pure porn. The Dragon's Bloodline one has some really skeevy tags that is making me wary of reading it, could you elaborate on why they're good?
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Eopia posted:The Dragon's Bloodline one has some really skeevy tags that is making me wary of reading it, could you elaborate on why they're good? And it is just a generally solid adventure story.
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Nihilarian posted:it is a web novel, and yeah theres a sequel What's the sequel called? I don't see it on novel updates.
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Syritta posted:What's the sequel called? I don't see it on novel updates. here
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Any good isekais where a dude is isekai'd as a woman? There's the yakuza one upthread thats cool Shut Hell. [insert argument of time travel = isekai here]
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Eopia posted:The Dragon's Bloodline one has some really skeevy tags that is making me wary of reading it, could you elaborate on why they're good? I skimmed the beginning and the MC straight up starts feeling up her mom and assistant at age 8 and it doesnt seem like its getting better. Artificer fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Dec 21, 2019 |
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So nobody is tempted to read Dragon's Bloodline I'm going to spoil the ending because it's pretty wild: All story long the various super powerful super old characters and gods are really cagey about some great cataclysm that's going to happen. In the end it's revealed that there are too many worlds in the universe and every few thousand years two of them collide with each other and one has to be destroyed so the other can survive. And the world theirs is going to collide with next is...Earth! So in the end the main character and the other super-powerful characters have to fight all of Earth's gods to clear the way for one of the dragon gods to fly into Earth and commit suicide to blow it up. It's pretty easy except for the capital-G Judeo-Christian God who puts up a pretty good fight. (But before that China managed to land some soldiers on the magic world that just happen to kill one of the protagonist's friends, which causes her to get real mad and blow up China, killing two billion people and ruining their efforts to evacuate a few million people with technical knowledge from Earth to help improve magic world's standard of living. Nobody really cares or comments on this.) Earth gets blown up by the darkness dragon god, the protagonist becomes the new darkness dragon god, and everyone lives happily ever after. Except everyone on Earth, who are all dead.
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Still perhaps a bit better than this hell.
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good grief  let's put that one in the Everything Burrito fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Dec 21, 2019 |
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Sindai posted:So nobody is tempted to read Dragon's Bloodline I'm going to spoil the ending because it's pretty wild: So the plot is what if Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy but emo and grimdark and probably sinophobic and racist as well? Hard pass. khy posted:I'm a Villainous Daughter, so I'm going to keep the Last Boss ended. It was a nice little fluffy story about an Isekai'ed girl seducing the demon lord. Short but fun. If you have any interest in otome isekai you should check it out. I'm so sad it ended even though they finished the story. Too drat adorable to live I guess.
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Sindai posted:So nobody is tempted to read Dragon's Bloodline I'm going to spoil the ending because it's pretty wild: Ok I admit thats not what I would have expected Villainous daughter: i cant believe the baddies seem to go unpunished??.
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Artificer posted:Villainous daughter: i cant believe the baddies seem to go unpunished??. Eh, not really? Lilia lost the holy sword so now she's no longer the sword maiden. Prince Cedric was replaced by his brother Prince Claude, which is a huge deal because Cedric has such an inferiority complex over his brother that we've seen several times. Marx isn't really punished because in the end he's small fry, and can plausibly use the excuse that he was simply following Cedric's orders. Also the best revenge is living a good life, and Irene's pretty much in 7th heaven. She's engaged to Claude, she has a successful business with her cosmetics, and is friends with all the monsters and the non-lovely humans.
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booksnake posted:Shut Hell. [insert argument of time travel = isekai here] Oh man, I forgot about Shut Hell. That's a super great manga that everyone should read. Probably in the top 10 for me.
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Yeah, that’s what I remember about the Dragon Bloodline series. Okay, but the ending is bonkers and not in a good way.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Any good isekais where a dude is isekai'd as a woman? There's the yakuza one upthread thats cool There was a long break in updates so it's been a while since I've read this one.
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Man I've got to catch up on that, it's been updating a bunch recently. The cast is so huge and everyone has their alternate self on top of that I never remember who is who when I come back to it after a long gap, so I've been thinking about giving it a re-read. It's really good though -- tbh I didn't even think about it being appropriate for this thread but it's actually perfect. For those not familiar it's sort of backwards to the usual setup because it follows a bunch of modern day kids who start remembering past lives in a fantasy world, and there's a mystery plot that slowly gets revealed in flashbacks to the past world plus a continuation of the war they were engaged in in the modern time as the old loyalties and conflicts get revived as their memories come back. One of the neat things it does is some of the characters including the MC are reborn in different genders from their previous lives and it addresses this in how the relationships between their modern selves and their past selves conflict and evolve.
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Nihilarian posted:sequel may not be the right word, its just on the same page as part 1 thanks!
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