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Bust Rodd posted:Yeah but those are all trash compared to “This is the way.” Best repeated lines from Star War by rankings: This is the way I have spoken then much further down the list: May the force be with you.
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Can somebody explain to me why all the nerds want Boba Fett to stay dead and not come back as an antagonist in this show? That would be amazing to see.
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Dec 20, 2019 18:01
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Cartoon Man posted:Can somebody explain to me why all the nerds want Boba Fett to stay dead and not come back as an antagonist in this show? That would be amazing to see. The show is doing its own thing and NAILING it. It would only be lessened by stunt appearances from dead characters thrown on for the "remember this guy" factor. It would be worse than Maul crammed onto the end of Solo. If this never uses a single recognizable character or ties into a trilogy plot in any meaningful way, I think I'll be happier for it. This is the Way. I have spoken.
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Dec 20, 2019 18:05
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Heh, I loved the Maul cameo too and would love to see him show up in this show as well.
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Dec 20, 2019 18:08
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Cartoon Man posted:Heh, I loved the Maul cameo too and would love to see him show up in this show as well. Jesus Christ.
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Dec 20, 2019 18:09
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Cartoon Man posted:Heh, I loved the Maul cameo too and would love to see him show up in this show as well.
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Dec 20, 2019 18:24
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John Wick of Dogs posted:It's inside the ship, it doesn't know what's going on the ramp of the razor's crest was down when we saw Kuili smoking on the ground
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Dec 20, 2019 18:26
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I guess I fell asleep before maul in Solo what the Christ
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Dec 20, 2019 18:27
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I just want a background character to say that they're tired of all the star wars going on.
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Dec 20, 2019 18:37
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Binary Badger posted:The Moff's words about "you don't know what he is" in regards to BabYod keep coming back to haunt me.. Eh, its just gonna be something pretty straightforward as he's from a race of extremely powerful forces sensitive beings. It seems like, at least in this show, that the force has been reduced to some kind of mythical unheard of thing. I can't think of any other reason why Mando hadn't put 2 and 2 together by now. That in itself is a bit of a stretch as it's probably only been 30 to 40 years since the Jedi were a "big thing" right?
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Dec 20, 2019 18:51
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Even when the Jedi were a big thing there were at most hundreds of them in a Galaxy of trillions
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Cartoon Man posted:Heh, I loved the Maul cameo too and would love to see him show up in this show as well. I liked the Maul cameo in Solo, but he doesn't have a place here.
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Dec 20, 2019 18:59
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Even when the Jedi were a big thing there were at most hundreds of them in a Galaxy of trillions Ten thousand nominal strength, per Rebels. That's still nothing in the have-you-ever-seen-one chances.
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Dec 20, 2019 19:01
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John Wick of Dogs posted:It's inside the ship, it doesn't know what's going on Not knowing what else to do, local droid brews patriotic tea.
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Dec 20, 2019 19:02
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Even when the Jedi were a big thing there were at most hundreds of them in a Galaxy of trillions Star Wars has a problem with scale. The Grand Army of the Republic consisted of just over 6.2 MILLION soldiers/fleet personnel. This force was obstinately the only army which fought the separatists with their army in the trillions of droids, and was responsible for garrisoning entire planets consisting of billions or trillions of people. To give you a sense of scale, the Chinese armed forces is just over 2 million soldiers.
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Owlbear Camus posted:True. But I'd also say Kuiil's death was more affecting than Qui-Gon's, and maybe even Han's, at least to me. Well, part of it is that with Qui-Gon and Han, we've been a bit programmed by the idea of "the old mentor dies and his apprentice must carry the burden" from Obi-Wan back in the original Star Wars all the way up to loving Dumbledore in Harry Potter. So, we're kind of braced for it. Also, Han and Qui-Gon knew and accepted what they were getting into. They were Great Men who died doing Great things. Kulil was just a good man who wanted to raise his weird cattle in peace. He was a patient person willing to teach a broken droid to be whole again. He only went along with Mando and Cara to take care of Baby Yoda. When he died, he wasn't trying to do something Great. He just wanted to protect a single small child. He died doing something good. There's a point in the movie, V for Vendetta that always makes me tear up a little bit. Within the movie we learn the story of Valerie, a young lesbian woman who watching her nation, her Britain, become more hostile and oppressive. Eventually she is arrested and taken to a death camp where she is tortured and killed. Just before that, she uses toilet paper and an improvised pen to write her story and give it to the person in the next cell finishing her story by declaring "I do not know you, but I love you." And that tiny, selfless moment of love and compassion for a stranger unleashes a terrifying force of retribution that slaughters those who had murdered her and lays to waste the evil system they created. I'm really hoping that something similar results when IG-11 sees what happened to Kulil. Everyone fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Dec 20, 2019 |
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Nitrousoxide posted:Star Wars has a problem with scale. The Grand Army of the Republic consisted of just over 6.2 MILLION soldiers/fleet personnel. All nerd stuff does that. Like IIRC someone number crunched the ranges and power of weapons and armor etc. and calculated that like just the British military circa WWII outgun and obliterate like the entire combined forces of the setting. Kin posted:Eh, its just gonna be something pretty straightforward as he's from a race of extremely powerful forces sensitive beings. John Wick of Dogs posted:Even when the Jedi were a big thing there were at most hundreds of them in a Galaxy of trillions This though, being a Jedi was rare in general, plus they were systematically wiped out over time and, I think they added in later that there was a massive disinformation campaign about them too afterwards to discredit them. You see that start in Revenge of the Sith towards the end anyway with clones killing off which ever Jedi around them just in time with oh no the Jedi are trying to pull a coup on the Republic what dangerous charlatans and frauds they are. It's easy to see how for the average person in the setting after that a Jedi as various characters have put it is just being part of a hokey religion/school of thought or whatever. May the Force be with you is often issued as like a very generic "may god bless us all" or whatever.
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There was a bit in one of the Vader comics where Jedi victories were memory holed and given to non-clones officers serving under them who were sufficiently loyal to the new order.
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Dec 20, 2019 19:49
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Just got out of the movie and man am I glad we have The Mandalorian to make up for that.
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Dec 20, 2019 19:54
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But firepower versus scale matters too. The US has fewer than 150 strategic bombers, but six B-1Bs carry more tonnage to a target than 100 B-17s could, with a hit rate unimaginable in 1945. I'm not going to worry too much about lightly manning garrison forces when I have orbital fire support in the megaton range.
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Neo Rasa posted:The final episode is just 40 minutes of every character arguing over what Yoda's species is. Does Yoda know what he is why won't he tell anyone.
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Neo Rasa posted:This though, being a Jedi was rare in general, plus they were systematically wiped out over time and, I think they added in later that there was a massive disinformation campaign about them too afterwards to discredit them. You see that start in Revenge of the Sith towards the end anyway with clones killing off which ever Jedi around them just in time with oh no the Jedi are trying to pull a coup on the Republic what dangerous charlatans and frauds they are. It's easy to see how for the average person in the setting after that a Jedi as various characters have put it is just being part of a hokey religion/school of thought or whatever. May the Force be with you is often issued as like a very generic "may god bless us all" or whatever. That rarity is the kind of thing that would be good to expand on I suppose but with everything Star Wars being so Force focused for decades, I'm not sure how it would be pulled off without fan backlash. Even the Mandalorian has had to inject force stuff into it. I really like it just like most of us do, but I do wonder if it would be getting relegated to the Solo/Rogue One bin if baby Yoda was just some other generic yet adorable puppet.
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i think the mystery is for the benefit of the audience. i’ve always figured mace and obi wan and the Jedi and poo poo all know what race Yoda (and Yaddle) is and what it’s called, it’s just never brought up because why would it be and it’s more fun for us not to know. it’s not like they go around chatting about how Aayla Secura and Plo Koon are beefing but you know Twi’Leks be like this and Kel Dor’s be like this. we know their races mostly from supplementary material. i dont really want to know what the name or Yodas weird race is, its more fun that way
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Mandrel posted:i think the mystery is for the benefit of the audience. i’ve always figured mace and obi wan and the Jedi and poo poo all know what race Yoda (and Yaddle) is and what it’s called, it’s just never brought up because why would it be and it’s more fun for us not to know. it’s not like they go around chatting about how Aayla Secura and Plo Koon are beefing but you know Twi’Leks be like this and Kel Dor’s be like this. we know their races mostly from supplementary material. i dont really want to know what the name or Yodas weird race is, its more fun that way I think people only care when it was made known that Lucas (?) established a rule that Yoda's species is to remain unknown as is his home planet. Yoda's species IS mentioned in official stuff, just not the same, it's literally referred to as "Yoda's species." 
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Yeah, I think Lucas just always wanted Yoda to be Yoda. He was always a mysterious little green space dude who serves the stereotypical “mysterious old mentor” role before exiting the plot. When the EU and Episode 1 started adding more members of his species anyway, he began fighting as hard as he could to keep the mystery basically out of stubbornness. A whole trading card run got pulped because it showed even a tiny part of Yoda’s civilization doing a thing. It’s good to get the series out of his hands in some way. For every good idea Lucas has, he has at least five godawful ones that other people need to snap him out of.
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A Yodan is: 1) small 2) green 3) lives a long time 4) Force using 5) carnivorous 6) going to eat you What else do you want?
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Dec 20, 2019 21:30
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When the entire Galaxy consists of entire planets with only one or two shanty towns, it makes more sense
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Dec 20, 2019 21:35
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Donovan Trip posted:When the entire Galaxy consists of entire planets with only one or two shanty towns, it makes more sense Yeah like if they reveal more about Yoda I'm fine with that but if they intentionally never did ever again I wouldn't mind much either.
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Like, I don't need full on hard-scifi, but even a space-fantasy setting like Star Wars that at least put a tiny bit of thought into its scale and some internal consistency would be nice. This is why small-scale stories like Mandalorian work so well because it leaves the questions of grand armies and galactic politics out of the picture rather than making their bad world building explicit.
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Dec 20, 2019 22:03
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Star Wars is just ludicrous it isn't worth scrutinising anything too closely.
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Ringo Star Get posted:I just want a background character to say that they're tired of all the star wars going on. I was the titular character in Star Wars.
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Dec 20, 2019 22:18
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Where is space-boston in the star wars universe?
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Dec 20, 2019 22:35
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Spaceachusettes
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Cartoon Man posted:Can somebody explain to me why all the nerds want Boba Fett to stay dead and not come back as an antagonist in this show? That would be amazing to see. Because then a similar scenario to A Barve Like That by J.D. Montgomery from Tales from Jabba's Palace would have to be true and that is just absolutely terrible. Just let him be dead. pixelbaron fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Dec 20, 2019 |
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Dec 20, 2019 22:52
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Boba Fett was a dude who hid in some garbage to narc on Han and then forgot how to control his jetpack and fell into a pit. That's his entire resume of amazing badass on-screen accomplishments. An uninteresting background character folks have become obsessed with.
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Only one thing can top Herzog in a star war. Put Zizek in a star war, cowards.
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Baronjutter posted:Boba Fett was a dude who hid in some garbage to narc on Han and then forgot how to control his jetpack and fell into a pit. That's his entire resume of amazing badass on-screen accomplishments. An uninteresting background character folks have become obsessed with. A blind person broke his jetpack in a fight. The only fight you see him in lol.
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JBP posted:A blind person broke his jetpack in a fight. A lot of supposed badasses fail to demonstrate their badass-ness. Phasma has the same issue as well. I like the Mandalorian and I'm excited to see the last episode. I've also been rewatching The Clone Wars and there's an interesting callback: In one of the episodes there's Blurghs as well and a character specifically says Blurghs are as fast as walkers. It's too bad they're not faster then speeders  Also on that note now that IG's adoptive parent is dead, I think it would be better character development if the Mandalorian has to take over as caretaker rather then just doing a heroic self destruct sacrifice.
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Baronjutter posted:Boba Fett was a dude who hid in some garbage to narc on Han and then forgot how to control his jetpack and fell into a pit. That's his entire resume of amazing badass on-screen accomplishments. An uninteresting background character folks have become obsessed with. That was something, along with Bea Arthur's sultry nightclub musical performance and Chewbacca's father, Itchy, watching holo-porn. Between Life Day getting a shout-out, and Mando carrying Boba's prong rifle from the cartoon, I think that poo poo's all back in the canon.
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