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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/scottreid1980/status/1208100279419322368?s=19

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StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

Darth Walrus posted:

Found the backstory.


Maybe there's more to it, but someone taking a swipe at Trots isn't as awful as it could be. You know, given that Trotskyite groups seem to inevitably turn into rape cults after a while.

Yeah that could equally be worn by fash or someone on the M-L tendency and they'd probably be more likely to mean it.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

A Handed Missus posted:

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1208252260490371072

The government has signed off a £4bn takeover of UK defence company Cobham by US private equity firm Advent International.

A merger between the companies was agreed to in July, but the acquisition was delayed on the orders of Business Secretary Andrea Leadsom so that the government could address national security concerns raised by the takeover.

heheh

Hmm. “Britain First” indeed.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
It's not like the UK wasn't joined at the hip with the US in defence matters prior to that takeover.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006





God bless the Allander Indoor Bowling Club

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

Darth Walrus posted:

Found the backstory.


Maybe there's more to it, but someone taking a swipe at Trots isn't as awful as it could be. You know, given that Trotskyite groups seem to inevitably turn into rape cults after a while.

fine and good but it makes labour look like the weird and factional lefties the papers have been saying they are. mcdonnell is right to want gently caress all to do with any of this. i can't believe they don't realise this looks terrible. they're all so staggeringly lacking in judgement.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Now that's a strike

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

gh0stpinballa posted:

fine and good but it makes labour look like the weird and factional lefties the papers have been saying they are. mcdonnell is right to want gently caress all to do with any of this. i can't believe they don't realise this looks terrible. they're all so staggeringly lacking in judgement.

this is some weak poo poo from the tory press lol

it's like someone once saying 'eat the rich' and the press breathlessly reporting that a prominent leftie is fronting cannibalism. it's the labour right up to their old tricks again

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Dumb pickaxe jokes are terrible

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

they are! however, making bad jokes should not disqualify people from being involved in politics

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
Cool that Labour is now and forever the party of antisemitism (but not antisemites, because they vote Tory :v:)

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Mantis42 posted:

LBJ 1964: I know the son of a bitch doesn't gently caress goats but I want him to have to say it.

Warren 2019: If you would check my website, you will see that any claims about my supporting or engaging in bestiality have been given 3 Pinnochios, please stop chanting goat fucker at all my rallies.
labour w/ some real warren energy

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

comedyblissoption posted:

labour w/ some real warren energy

lol gently caress I heard that in her voice as I read this

CSPAM has broken my garbage brain

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

V. Illych L. posted:

this is some weak poo poo from the tory press lol

it's like someone once saying 'eat the rich' and the press breathlessly reporting that a prominent leftie is fronting cannibalism. it's the labour right up to their old tricks again

i love how the press onslaught against labour is both the sole reason we lost at one end and then at the other it's "weak poo poo" that nobody pays attention to

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Taintrunner posted:

Hmm. “Britain First” indeed.

lmao time for Boris Johnson to finish the work Margret Thatcher started in 80s with trying to turn the whole country into a US style rust belt hellhole except for FIRE sector cities like London.

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

gh0stpinballa posted:

i love how the press onslaught against labour is both the sole reason we lost at one end and then at the other it's "weak poo poo" that nobody pays attention to

inside baseball poo poo about labour factional wars is different to every paper calling jezza a nazi terrorist for three years. gammons dont follow day to day politics but some of the sentiment gets through

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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gh0stpinballa posted:

i love how the press onslaught against labour is both the sole reason we lost at one end and then at the other it's "weak poo poo" that nobody pays attention to

it's bad but also unavoidable. corbyn was literally everything these people claim to want from a left-winger and then they just outright made poo poo up

basically the left has to live with this sort of thing. make a single off-colour joke and it'll be reported in the press - and if you don't, they'll just make something up. it sucks but it is the reality of the situation.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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the tabloids matter, but any labour party worth supporting will have to accept relentless smears from them - remember 'ed miliband's dad killed my kitten'?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
This is, again, why we need to be able to shift to other battlefields. Literal no-poo poo terrorist organisations have been able to get electoral success through strong community integration and the development of parallel support structures, and not just the ones who are tolerable by a capitalist system. The media saw a disaster capitalist far-right government coming and both-sided it. We need to concentrate less on what is or is not a good look in a rigged playing field, and start directly helping people out at a personal, local level. That's how you cut through the bullshit. Nobody cares if you wore an anti-Trot badge once if you got their kid some work and put food on their table.

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

gh0stpinballa posted:

i love how the press onslaught against labour is both the sole reason we lost at one end and then at the other it's "weak poo poo" that nobody pays attention to

The press doing stuff like spending years pretending that Labour's Brexit position was inscrutable hurt the party (don't think anyone is claiming it's the only reason for their loss), but I don't think stories like this matter to anyone outside the demographic of Guido commenters

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Bryter posted:

The press doing stuff like spending years pretending that Labour's Brexit position was inscrutable hurt the party (don't think anyone is claiming it's the only reason for their loss), but I don't think stories like this matter to anyone outside the demographic of Guido commenters

I think they do matter, but only if that's the only field you choose to engage on. Bad press and 'not a good look' stuff is devastating for a party that depends entirely on the media to deliver its message and build its support, so you don't fuckin' do that.

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

that freedland article is probably one of the worst things he's ever written. what a deeply mediocre little man.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Owen Jones gave a killer speech today:

https://twitter.com/chunkymark/status/1208368379314221057

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
the media isn't going to let up just because it's not true, so the correct answer is to say that yes, I am in fact an avowed Stalinist

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Marxist Leninism is the only way forward.

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

Crowsbeak posted:

Marxist Leninism is the only way forward.

no, it’s Brexi Jinping Thought

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
I will however accept Chunky Mark-sist Leninist

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

gradenko_2000 posted:

the media isn't going to let up just because it's not true, so the correct answer is to say that yes, I am in fact an avowed Stalinist
Actually, I'm a Hoxhaist.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




A Buttery Pastry posted:

Actually, I'm a Hoxhaist.

bulldoze every nandos, to be replaced by concrete gently caress bunkers

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




its cool that posadist nuke thought was basically correct wrt brexit: knowing that brexit was inevitable, corbyn should have fiercely pursued a socialist first-strike brexit policy, instead of allowing a capitalist brexit to take place

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1208363907179597824?s=19

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer
They starting early.

Hopefully Labour works out they gotta fight back hard. Literally just start mouthing off at bbc reporters, call them 'right cunts'.

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo

gh0stpinballa posted:

that freedland article is probably one of the worst things he's ever written. what a deeply mediocre little man.

Which one op?

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral

gh0stpinballa posted:

that freedland article is probably one of the worst things he's ever written. what a deeply mediocre little man.
similarly, it was extremely cool today to see the nyt give goodwin and kaufmann another splash piece on how the left needs to get more racist and acknowledge the legitimacy of white grievance



pictured: a graph that is stated with a straight face as showing that corbyn being 'socially left' just by itself destroyed Labour's vote share down to a level never seen before

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

gh0stpinballa posted:

fine and good but it makes labour look like the weird and factional lefties the papers have been saying they are. mcdonnell is right to want gently caress all to do with any of this. i can't believe they don't realise this looks terrible. they're all so staggeringly lacking in judgement.

Whether or not Labour is playing to type makes no difference. If the papers say Labour are Stalinists then their readers will believe it no matter what the truth is.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Whether or not Labour is playing to type makes no difference. If the papers say Labour are Stalinists then their readers will believe it no matter what the truth is.

Frankly gently caress it, when we are in power we will make no excuse for the Terror. The establishment has rejected the idea of coexistance and we should reply in kind.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Don't let the authcoms win, because they'll just purge you afterwards

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Grapplejack posted:

Don't let the authcoms win, because they'll just purge you afterwards

The guy isnt Stalinist, the press and the right don't care to make a distinction though so they deserve to be treated as if every left group actually is neo Stalin.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

if the "authcoms" are gonna win then you better start being an authcom.

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Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




if theres one thing millennials hate, its the idea of a powerful leftist govt that promises to kill them, personally

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