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ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Viva Miriya posted:

Why don't you ambush a few about it instead of making gbs tier shitposts?

I’m from the neighborhood where them feds got torched up the other year. Don’t worry about what’s going on over here my dude.

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Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

ruddiger posted:

I’m from the neighborhood where them feds got torched up last year. Don’t worry about what’s going on over here my dude.

Did you do the torching?

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Viva Miriya posted:

Did you do the torching?

I don’t live here anymore, but the cops hosed up a lot of my family and friends looking for the shooter. They were going door to door with no warrants just walking into people’s houses and poo poo.

But like I said, don’t worry about what’s going on over here. You got a dinner to plan.

ruddiger fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Dec 22, 2019

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene
dinner is a despicable meal and should never be planned.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Viva Miriya posted:

The rear end in a top hat who did that should be turned into a loving science project. That make you feel better?

He’s walking free and clear, so no.

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

ruddiger posted:

I don’t live here anymore, but the cops hosed up a lot of my family and friends looking for the shooter. They were going door to door with no warrants just walking into people’s houses and poo poo.

You know what, I believe you. You know what I'mma do. Let me do my homework and report back. Let's call this lil thing "Why everyone hates the police." I'll focus on just the NYPD and see if I can refute all the poo poo Jack was claiming. He seemed more reasonable than you motherfuckers for a second, yall annoyed the poo poo out of me to boot, and my dude: dinner's just a way to get someone in the room to pick their brain. Don't get it twisted, I'm not walking around asking the cops if they had enough donuts for the day or some poo poo.

And that's a wrap for rn. Gimme a couple of days to do some database research, google around, y'know: that good academic poo poo. My findings will be posted in here. Maybe we'll get a chichevache concern troll out of it too!

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

ruddiger posted:

Feeling cute, might shoot a kid in the face while killing their dog later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIIpnxgdzTU

Jesus that loving scream. That dude looked at a dog for half a second and opened fire.

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

Preliminary research: "Why we hate you fuckers, NYPD edition"

How could I forget about ERIC GARNER? It's been wild lately, loving forgot that poo poo and you pigs doing that disrespectful poo poo w that tshirt. Of course this went down in staten island, loving of course.

Then there's this guy: https://abc7ny.com/amp/man-shot-killed-by-nypd-known-throughout-neighborhood/5648827/

I mean he was coming at yall, but I bet you if he wasn't a black dude in Brownsville, they mighta waited to see if the taser worked. I betcha. Idk maybe he needed to get his poo poo pushed back tho. Would they have shot a white boy tho? What about if it was a different hood? 6 shots still? We'll see.


Then there's this guy who molested a 12 year old kid AND WAS A DETEC IN SVU to boot
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-yor...?outputType=amp

https://www.changethenypd.org/RightToKnowAct

This poo poo came up too. This looks interesting. Wonder why 200+ organizations are concerned about curbing NYPD abuses?

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-yor...?outputType=amp

Look at that: BROWNSVILLE AGAIN.

quote:

It’s not entirely clear how often Grieco has been disciplined because NYPD personnel records are shrouded in secrecy, protected by the department’s interpretation of Section 50-a of the state Civil Rights Law, which places limits on releasing personnel records.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-slain-barnard-student-say-nypd-union-boss-blamed-victim-n1102751

Class loving act. Let's politicize the murder of a college student and imply she was in Morningside Park to cop bud, instead of.....trying to get back on campus. Like college kids need to loving go to Morningside Park to get weed when all they have to do is make friends till they get sparked up. loving lol.

https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops-gone-rogue/nypd-cop-sued-for-placing-man-in-illegal-chokehold-over-loud-music-nPQIp9snD0eTxzS4fEA3lA/

Apparently we gently caress up cooperating citizens too.

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/2166015001

Love coercing girls who have no choice but to comply or get locked. All so my dick can get wet. And I wont even do time neither. Gj guys. Real good accountability there.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/viral-video-nypd-arresting-woman-selling-churros-subway-draws-outrage-n1079471

Yo watch out. The churro lady tryna flip them shits into coke bricks. If you let her hustle up that churro money, she'll become the next griselda blanco.

https://www.manhattanda.org/d-a-vance-former-nypd-officer-convicted-of-assault-falsifying-documents-related-to-violent-2017-arrest/

Need I say more on that headline?

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kendalltaggart/secret-nypd-files-hundreds-of-officers-committed-serious

Yo at this point, I'm just gonna chalk up my previous posts to sleep deprivation and being annoyed at all of you fuckheads. I slept 3 hours before my flight to go see sean and I havent slept yet. Maybe I'm a lil squirrely rn, maybe i need to walk some poo poo back when i wake up.

One things for sure: if this is what comes up from lazy googling, then I can't wait to see what happens when I actually bother to properly look. Lmfao.

Orange DeviI
Nov 9, 2011

by Hand Knit

Viva Miriya posted:

. That said, if you are so vexed, come see me in Brownsville, Brooklyn. I look forward to washing you and your bullshit, and I don't mean with soap and water.

Lmao a real ‘say that to my face fucker not online’

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



It's important to remember that the stories we read about are only a fraction of the abuses that actually occur. I'd be very curious to see any academic research into what the reporting rates are for police abuse, especially when you take into account that many departments will actively discourage citizens from filing a complaint.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

WHY DON'T YOU JUST CHANGE THE SYSTEM FROM THE INSIDE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Schoolcraft


gently caress off forever, if someone IS a good cop then the pigs go after him, visit his house constantly, and try to get him loving committed.

Sorry, my wife isn't mentally strong enough to deal with this. I'm not going to join the chicago pd and try to go full on Serpico.

New York cops are literally the perfect example of how you can't be a good cop. If you don't stop and frisk enough people you get fired. If you're in an a richer area that doesn't stop and frisk people then you're freeing up manpower so that someone else can stop and frisk the poors.

PookBear fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Dec 22, 2019

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Smiling Jack’s definitely friends with a few people who unironically wear “I CAN BREATHE” t-shirts.

E: hey viva, sorry for sending shots at ya. That video last night got me heated too. That poo poo got me seeing red.

ruddiger fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Dec 22, 2019

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

please knock Mom! posted:

Lmao a real ‘say that to my face fucker not online’

I ain't got time for this poo poo. Step or succ me from the posterior.

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:

WHY DON'T YOU JUST CHANGE THE SYSTEM FROM THE INSIDE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Schoolcraft


gently caress off forever, if someone IS a good cop then the pigs go after him, visit his house constantly, and try to get him loving committed.

Sorry, my wife isn't mentally strong enough to deal with this. I'm not going to join the chicago pd and try to go full on Serpico.

New York cops are literally the perfect example of how you can't be a good cop. If you don't stop and frisk enough people you get fired. If you're in an a richer area that doesn't stop and frisk people then you're freeing up manpower so that someone else can stop and frisk the poors.

And yall did one of my corpsmen brethren dirty. Ayyyyyyy lmao, even if he was chilling on the blue ridge, the mans def had that good ole HONOR COURAGE COMMITMENT. Y'all apparently do not.

loving lol at that article and the doctors who played ball w that poo poo. "The police do nothing wrong, clearly this motherfucker is crazy."

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

Viva Miriya posted:

Like, I don't give a gently caress about cops for the most part. Like 99% don't give a gently caress. Most these motherfuckers can suck a fat one. This one dude I'll check out, if he even has the balls to take me up on it. And notice I said fair shake, not blind acceptance of whatever comes out this motherfucker's mouth. That said, if you are so vexed, come see me in Brownsville, Brooklyn. I look forward to washing you and your bullshit, and I don't mean with soap and water.

The internet toughguy part can be chalked up to sleep deprived me. The dinner offer wasn't accepted, but hey i got a link to the city's use of force stats.

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/stats/reports-analysis/use-of-force.page



This is from the 2018 report. I'm gonna see what other sources I can find, because I need to operate as if this data is gundecked. If you can commit a motherfucker for going to IAB, you can falsify reports. We'll see.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

your honor anyone that tries to change the system from within is clearly crazy and needs to be committed. i rest my case

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:

WHY DON'T YOU JUST CHANGE THE SYSTEM FROM THE INSIDE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Schoolcraft


gently caress off forever, if someone IS a good cop then the pigs go after him, visit his house constantly, and try to get him loving committed.

Sorry, my wife isn't mentally strong enough to deal with this. I'm not going to join the chicago pd and try to go full on Serpico.

New York cops are literally the perfect example of how you can't be a good cop. If you don't stop and frisk enough people you get fired. If you're in an a richer area that doesn't stop and frisk people then you're freeing up manpower so that someone else can stop and frisk the poors.

Oo I remember hearing about this first on NPR, pro-listen right here:

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/414/right-to-remain-silent

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat

shame on an IGA posted:

Oo I remember hearing about this first on NPR, pro-listen right here:

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/414/right-to-remain-silent

Yeah, I remember that too, iirc his supervisor or whatever comes to his house, can't get him to voluntarily leave the house with them, and declares him "edp" and arrests him. It's all on tape, I wonder what ever happened to that supervisor.

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

Shooting Blanks posted:

It's important to remember that the stories we read about are only a fraction of the abuses that actually occur. I'd be very curious to see any academic research into what the reporting rates are for police abuse, especially when you take into account that many departments will actively discourage citizens from filing a complaint.

Is someone stopping you from reading or something? are you in jail right now?

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Viva Miriya posted:

gbs tier shitposts

Weird, I thought I was the only one in here who disliked this.

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

Shooting Blanks posted:

It's important to remember that the stories we read about are only a fraction of the abuses that actually occur. I'd be very curious to see any academic research into what the reporting rates are for police abuse, especially when you take into account that many departments will actively discourage citizens from filing a complaint.

Going to keep this in mind when I spend my christmas running through the databases.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Is there actually a cop in here bragging about how he's infiltrating a local DSA/Socialist group and then trying to use his cover work to win internet arguments? lmao

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Hey Smiling Jack serious question do you really know any people who own an “I CAN BREATHE” t-shirt?

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Kawasaki Nun posted:

Is someone stopping you from reading or something? are you in jail right now?

No, I just can't find anything pertaining to that. I also don't have direct access to primary journals to perform a better search, and I'm doing this from a cell phone as I'm traveling for the holidays so even my ability to search Google etc. is limited.

Do you have anything useful to post?

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?
Jesus Christ.

Everybody take today to cool down. Go for a walk, play with a dog, just don't keep making GBS threads up the thread.

In the meantime I'm getting a crew to hose this place down and put up some air fresheners.

McNally fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Dec 22, 2019

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗
We had our cooldown, so let's check in on the upstanding folks of the NYPD, who we are continually reminded are great people cause they managed to stop shooting everyone (or at least reporting it):

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigations/nypd-unit-seen-disabling-camera-during-fruitless-drug-raid-against-brothers/2245847/

https://www.foxnews.com/us/tessa-ma...ims-reports-say

https://nypost.com/2019/12/23/nypd-cop-arrested-for-choking-his-baby-mama-while-shopping/

(Wasnt someone just bragging about their 100k+ salary? Huh.)

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2019/12/06/nypd-cop-michael-reynolds-jail-sentence-assault-burglary/4356860002/

"We're just drunk cops, it's fine!"

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

The most annoying thing to me is how every podunk sheriff and cop directly helped fight the terrorists on 9/11 no matter their physical location but then when you point out injustice its always "oh thats a different police department, ours is actually quite ethical"

drat I wish I had thought of that when I was in afghanistan. "listen you guys need to stop shooting us it was another unit that accidentally killed your kid"

Orange DeviI
Nov 9, 2011

by Hand Knit
As much as I hate cops on a personal level, I can't fault someone for becoming a cop in order to live a comfortable middle class lifestyle if they aren't particularly smart or have any especially useful/salable skill

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

as much as i hate the SS on a personal level, i can't fault someone for becoming a concentration camp guard to live a comfortable middle class lifestyle if they aren't particularly smart of have any especially useful/salable skill

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Speaking of our brave heroes in the nypd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rleChzgb0LU

https://gothamist.com/news/-duty-nypd-officer-killed-fdr-crash-had-history-traffic-violations

quote:

Off-Duty NYPD Officer Killed In FDR Crash Had History Of Traffic Violations

An off-duty police officer was killed early Saturday morning in a horrific high-speed crash on the FDR Drive that also left his two passengers seriously injured. Now it appears that the deceased driver, 25-year-old Garman Chan, had a history of violations for speeding.
Just after 2:30 a.m., police responded to a 911 call about a crash on the FDR Drive near East 23rd Street. The NYPD said that responding officers found a 2016 black Lexus sedan, which had been traveling north, "mounted on the center median," with the driver, "unconscious and unresponsive, with severe head trauma," while two passengers, a 25-year-old man and a 25-year-old woman, were outside of the car, after being ejected into the southbound lane of the FDR. The male passenger, an off-duty firefighter named Kenneth Larkin, is in critical condition while the female passenger, Larkin's girlfriend Amanda Remy, lost her right foot in the crash.

According to the Daily News, Chen had to be "cut... out of the crumpled vehicle" before he was pronounced dead at Bellevue Hospital. (The Post obtained video of the crash.)

The Post noted that Chen had been "busted speeding and blowing red lights at least 10 times this year... including one citation for speeding in a school zone on Halloween issued just days before the wreck, which also left two passengers with severe injuries. The plate registered to 25-year-old Garman Chen’s 2016 Lexus — HCG-5421 — was slapped with seven camera violations for speeding in a school zone this year, three for blowing through red lights and one for not displaying a meter receipt, city records show."

A neighbor of Chen's in Brooklyn told the paper, “He always [speeds]... I always say to him, ‘Take it easy. Where you going in such a hurry?’ I stand in front of his car and hold up my hands. I say take it easy and he no listen. It’s sad."
Chen is pictured second from left in this 2018 Tweet from the 76th Precinct:

Streetsblog had previously reported that "more than 58 percent of police officers who had parked their personal vehicles in NYPD-only spaces near 33 stationhouses in all five boroughs had at least one moving violation — and 38 percent had repeated moving violations."

In the summer of 2018, City Councilman Brad Lander proposed the Reckless Driver Accountability Act, which would impound cars of drivers who have five or more red-light and speeding violations in a year. In June of this year, de Blasio's office said they were still reviewing the legislation.

Well at least the city will surely acknowledge Chen as the reckless danger to society he...

https://twitter.com/bradlander/status/1196102408448937984?s=21

Oh.

:rolleyes:

Thoughts & Prayers to the family of the innocent woman and the firefighter whose lives Officer Chen so graciously destroyed. Wonder if they get to see any of Chen’s six figure pension or if this is gonna be filed as an unavoidable accident which Chen had no responsibility or liability for.

ruddiger fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Dec 24, 2019

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

file the civil suit against that pig's family for being pig enablers

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again;

there is nothing new under the sun.

Is there anything of which one can say,
“Look! This is something new”?

It was here already, long ago; it was here before our time.

No one remembers the former generations, and even those yet to come will not be remembered by those who follow them.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe
We can all post links. I'm really sick of all of the "all cops do is shoot innocent people" or "all cops lust for innocenf blood" bullshit. Here are some justified shootings / "good shoots." (Meaning legally justified). All of these are pretty loving clear cut, too. Some highlight the need for way more training in defensive tactics, MMA, or BJJ. Obviously NWS/NSFW.

:nws:

Cops shoot and kill murderer who was actively going around shooting people in a bar
https://youtu.be/QBVUpup5EQk

Cop shoots and kills someone who is either on some real bad drugs, or someone who is experiencing excited delirium, who is kicking the poo poo out of the cop and repeatedly hitting the cop in the face and head, sometimes with the cop's own taser. This shooting, while justified (as the suspect was winning and clearly wasnt going to stop hitting the officer until he was unconscious or dead) highlights the need for more training in defensive tactics, especially MMA or BJJ. Also highlights the need to keep up physical fitness standards.
https://youtu.be/hRAFTNnTkuw

Cops shoot suspect who beat him in the head with vodka bottle. This shooting also highlights the need for more hand to hand training.
https://youtu.be/PPDMDJt_yiA

Cops shoot murder suspect who ran, turned around, pointed gun and then shot at the cops
https://youtu.be/F5AM29JapJE

Huge piece of poo poo with a knife attacks officer who was responding to a traffic accident and was just getting out of his car. Attacker gets shot and killed
https://youtu.be/V8mQoFlJ_3I

Bored As Fuck fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Dec 24, 2019

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

Bored As gently caress posted:

We can all post links. I'm really sick of all of the "all cops do is shoot innocent people" or "all cops lust for innocenf blood" bullshit. Here are some justified shootings / "good shoots." (Meaning legally justified). All of these are pretty loving clear cut, too. Some highlight the need for way more training in defensive tactics, MMA, or BJJ. Obviously NWS/NSFW.

:nws:

Cops shoot and kill murderer who was actively going around shooting people in a bar
https://youtu.be/QBVUpup5EQk

Cop shoots and kills someone who is either on some real bad drugs, or someone who is experiencing excited delirium, who is kicking the poo poo out of the cop and repeatedly hitting the cop in the face and head, sometimes with the cop's own taser. This shooting, while justified (as the suspect was winning and clearly wasnt going to stop hitting the officer until he was unconscious or dead) highlights the need for more training in defensive tactics, especially MMA or BJJ. Also highlights the need to keep up physical fitness standards.
https://youtu.be/hRAFTNnTkuw

Cops shoot suspect who beat him in the head with vodka bottle. This shooting also highlights the need for more hand to hand training.
https://youtu.be/PPDMDJt_yiA

Cops shoot murder suspect who ran, turned around, pointed gun and then shot at the cops
https://youtu.be/F5AM29JapJE

Huge piece of poo poo with a knife attacks officer who was responding to a traffic accident and was just getting out of his car. Attacker gets shot and killed
https://youtu.be/V8mQoFlJ_3I

So in your estimation how many justified shootings does it take to offset an unjustified one?

Or is this just a non sequitur?

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
Pretty sure none of those crimes are punishable by the death penalty, with the exception of that bar shooting, but since the guy is dead we'll never know what the story was.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

McNally posted:

So in your estimation how many justified shootings does it take to offset an unjustified one?

Or is this just a non sequitur?

I'm saying that while there are absolutely unjustified shootings of suspects, and unjustified shootings of innocent people, there are also shootings that are completely justified. Some people in this thread act as if that's not a thing.

Orange DeviI
Nov 9, 2011

by Hand Knit
Your usage of 'excited delirium' (which isn't a real medical condition and more of a code phrase which means 'did not listen to me quickly enough and looked like they were on drugs') tells me that you're prepared to shoot and kill someone who looks threatening and doesn't back down immediately.

Bored As gently caress posted:

I'm saying that [..] there are also shootings that are completely justified.

Yeah, about 120 a year.

Orange DeviI fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Dec 24, 2019

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat

A Bad Poster posted:

Pretty sure none of those crimes are punishable by the death penalty, with the exception of that bar shooting, but since the guy is dead we'll never know what the story was.

It's more important that the man taking pot shots in the bar is stopped immediately, even with lethal force, than that we hear his side of the story.

Edit: Also "Death Penalty" isn't the same thing as a cop shooting someone. Seriously, where are you going with that?

Jack B Nimble fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Dec 24, 2019

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Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

"Sometimes cops kill people who deserve to die" is a hell of a response to "cops kill too many people"

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