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ggangensis posted:Then I've noticed some bigger outlets like PC Gamer, BBC (and Gamestar, of course) covered SC in a rather unreflected (and positive) way, which puzzles me. CR is wasting tremendous amounts of "gamer money" since 8 years with basically nothing of substance to show for it and uses unheard of macro-transactions to support their "development as a service"-model which financed him a new 5 million dollar home (again, with no real product). This is way worse than any early access scam or scummy EA-microtransaction-move could ever be, while actively luring people into this with predatory marketing and straight lies. If the industry adopts that model everyone would be off worse, so I really can't understand why CIG isn't getting the "Daikatana/Duke Nukem Forever/Fallout76"-treatment by the gaming media? As a side note, in the worst case people blew maybe ~200 bucks for some collectors edition, but that would be it. In SC-land this doesn't buy much, though. Gorf did a pretty good writeup about SC and the gaming press, but unfortunately, I can't find it anymore since the subforum got nuked. It seems pretty obvious that (parts of) the gaming press are paid shills, either directly, or by getting free ships for the grey market. Gamestar is really egregious in that regard, and I wonder if they're going to survive the backlash once SC goes under. But I'm sure it's a sweet gig in the meantime. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but gaming journalists can't be that clueless. I know game devs don't like to talk shop about this stuff publicly, but I can't imagine how you could work in this field and not pick up that everybody in the business thinks Roberts is a hack and CIG hasn't had competent managers left in a long time, if ever.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 15:48 |
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Tane 4: The Taning
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 15:49 |
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gently caress
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 15:49 |
I think it's more likely that a lot of sites simply have nothing to gain by being overly hostile to star citizen. For most writers it's probably just this bizarre thing that has news they write up once or twice a year. Plus if the site is large enough there's probably guidelines on tone and stuff for articles that's aren't editorials. Few news outlets have healthy investigative departments anymore, let alone enthusiast joirnalism, and I can't imagine star citizen tops the list of stuff to actually dig into when there's stuff like David Cage's studio out there. Sankis fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Dec 25, 2019 |
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 15:59 |
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Hannibal Rex posted:Gamestar is really egregious in that regard, and I wonder if they're going to survive the backlash once SC goes under. But I'm sure it's a sweet gig in the meantime. I listen to a bunch of gaming podcasts that feature ex-Gamestar people and so far whenever SC is mentioned they spend a sentence or two mocking it and move on. Perhaps it's just that the old guard of Gamestar has mostly and the website primarily deals in feel-good stuff. Those old print mags have had subscriptions absolutely crater during the past 10 years and online has never made up for those losses. I doubt they can even afford to piss off some SC whales and they'd certainly not gain any subscribers by doing so…
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 16:32 |
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EminusSleepus posted:
I'm the 90 cents
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 17:23 |
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Years ago, I read a book called 'Flat Earth News''. It explained why the standards of printed news media have declined in recent years. I guess the same reasons can be used for online news. Basically, it's down to pressure for profit leading to less journalists, and those journalists being required to write more column inches. So they don't have the time to first-hand investigate, so source their stories from news agencies such as AP, PA, Reuters, etc Amazon has a good description: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Flat-Earth-News-Award-winning-Distortion/dp/0099512688
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 17:38 |
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Ponzi posted:Years ago, I read a book called 'Flat Earth News''. It explained why the standards of printed news media have declined in recent years. I guess the same reasons can be used for online news. It’s getting worse as online ads lose traction, so the revenue streams get tighter and everyone’s cycling content.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 17:55 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aCE7gxQOVY Gigglesnort.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 17:56 |
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posted:"Didn't think we'd get anything on SQ42 - it's really good although I sincerely hope early next year they can give us a Pillar Talk on what's been happening with the development and the bottlenecks
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 18:00 |
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My faith has been restored. Beet Wagon ..... your move
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 18:04 |
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This will literally be enough to satisfy them. No question at all.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 18:04 |
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Ship assets on a pretty background. Gameplay not included. Merry Christmas, bring money.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 18:13 |
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Rotten Red Rod posted:This will literally be enough to satisfy them. No question at all. Zero examples of a functioning game or story, but hey there are some scenery renders.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 18:15 |
Ah whew! Crisis averted, those cut scene snippets are clearly indicative of advanced and fun gameplay! CIG clearly felt the pressure to at least say something about SQ42 and they couldn't even get anyone on camera to state where they are at going into 2020.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 18:15 |
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im the MCU intro ripoff
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 18:19 |
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So literally all they've done with SQ42 during 2019 is a two minute long pre-rendered trailer.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 18:27 |
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Unless they're even more incompetent than I thought, it's not even a good trailer. It has no narrative flow, no suggestion of gameplay systems, no story hooks other than "ALIEN BAD???" That moment in the middle where the ship spins on the red background, lol It's super obvious they slapped it together because of the rumbling of doubt. Literally none of that will be in the finished game. Least of all that big rear end ship at the end Just play Subnautica
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 18:31 |
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precision posted:no story hooks other than "ALIEN BAD???" Welcome friend, to the absolute limits of CR's imagination.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 18:33 |
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To be fair, Wing Commander had "ALIEN BAD AND ALSO CATS???"
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 18:35 |
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Slow panning shots of art assets Spinning art assets, like they're in some kind of model viewer to give you the feeling of ship shopping
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 18:45 |
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precision posted:To be fair, To be fair, the most innovative and creatively inspired thought Chris has ever had was to maybe cut his toe nails. Or buy new socks.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 18:45 |
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eXXon posted:I'm the 90 cents And all of us here give our own 2 cents. Colostomy Bag fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Dec 25, 2019 |
# ? Dec 25, 2019 18:46 |
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I'm the flickering light in nearly every shot .... Never been done before. The citizens asked, and Chris Roberts delivered!
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 18:46 |
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iospace posted:gently caress You lose. Please report for deskeletonization immediately.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 19:22 |
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Agony Aunt posted:You lose. Please report for deskeletonization immediately. Nope.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 19:27 |
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Rad Russian posted:So literally all they've done with SQ42 during 2019 is a two minute long pre-rendered trailer. No no, its just a sample of what they have done. They also posted an advert for a barrista.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 19:30 |
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:Zero examples of a functioning game or story, but hey there are some scenery renders. CIG's development in a nutshell.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 19:32 |
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Has there been any exciting news on a possible CHRIStmass miracle presentation?
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 19:33 |
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monkeytek posted:Has there been any exciting news on a possible CHRIStmass miracle presentation? Watch the SQ42 FMV they did. It shows how hard they have been working all year on SQ42! Meanwhile, the SQ42 roadmap did move an iota after the release of that video, but i'm sure among backers all is now forgiven.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 19:38 |
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To be fair, it's pretty. CR is the master of hype. Just watched the Fyre festival documentary on Netflix (gonna do the Hulu one later) and k see a lot of parallels.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 19:39 |
It's pretty in the same way any pre-rendered video is. It doesn't tell us anything about how the game will actually look or play. The one thing CIG has a handle on is making 3d models, they just can't do anything with them.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 19:49 |
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Two things, A gigantic LOL at that Marvel Studios intro rip off. I guess Crobberts saw Infinity War. Secondly, I really glad CI Also, as a side note, I kept capitalizing "Crobberts and the Whales" because it sounds so much like a band name.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 19:50 |
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UnknownTarget posted:To be fair, it's pretty. CR is the master of hype. Just watched the Fyre festival documentary on Netflix (gonna do the Hulu one later) and k see a lot of parallels. SC is actually the Fyre Festive played in incredibly slow motion and with more money.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 20:25 |
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Didn't cig settle their situation with the studio that produced their previous trailers, just in time for this one?
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 20:28 |
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Man those random art assets would have looked amazing back in 2016.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 20:29 |
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G0RF posted:
Fidelitous and utterly non-substantive. It’s perfect. No dates, no specific claims, no explanations for delays, but surely it means progress, right? Don’t let the Roadmap discourage you; this AAAA masterpiece is on rails to future market domination! (I see Vanduul brandishing ceremonial spiky stickswords that double as ignition keys for spaceships and I upvote!) But seriously, at what it’s come down to.
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 20:35 |
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For a game getting ready to enter alpha/beta in 2020 you'd think they'd have more to show. Is 2020 the year that finally ends this charade?
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# ? Dec 25, 2019 20:43 |
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DOMDOM posted:For a game getting ready to enter alpha/beta in 2020 you'd think they'd have more to show. I think you might be overestimating the backers' deductive capabilities.
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iospace posted:gently caress It’s a Christmas miracle!
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