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Thank you for the suggestions!! I've come up with 2 tweaked list that I hope can form the basis of a solid army building up to 2k or 3k(whatever) that won't completely break the bank ++ Zone Mortalis - Attacker (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [1,000pts] ++ + Elites + Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon [155pts] . Cortus Dreadnought . . Dreadnought Chainfist: Twin-linked Bolter . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Heavy Flamer + HQ + Praetor, Legion [165pts]: Artificer Armour, Combi-weapon, Cyber-familiar, Digital Lasers, On Foot, Paragon Blade . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades Praevian [105pts]: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Combi-weapon, On Foot . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades . Consul . . Praevian + Troops + Gorgon Terminator Squad , Compulsory [235pts]: 2x Chainfist, 4x Gorgon Terminator, Heavy Flamer, Power Fist Veteran Tactical Squad, Legion , Compulsory [205pts]: 8x Bolt Pistol, 7x Bolter, 9x Chainswords/Combat Blades, Combi-weapon: Plasma gun, Flamer, 9x Veteran Space Marines, Legion . Veteran Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Fist + Heavy Support + Castellax Class Battle-Automata Maniple [135pts]: Support Unit . Castellax class Battle-automata: Darkfire Cannon, 2x Flamer, Stock Chargers + Allegiance + Legion and Allegiance: X: Iron Hands, Loyalist Rite of War: Pride of the Legion + Use Playtest Rules + Use Playtest Rules: Playtest Rules On ++ Total: [1,000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe OR: ++ Zone Mortalis - Attacker (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [995pts] ++ + Elites + Contemptor-Cortus Class Dreadnought Talon [155pts] . Cortus Dreadnought . . Dreadnought Chainfist: Twin-linked Bolter . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Heavy Flamer + HQ + Praetor, Legion [165pts]: Artificer Armour, Combi-weapon, Cyber-familiar, Digital Lasers, On Foot, Paragon Blade . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades + Troops + Gorgon Terminator Squad , Compulsory [235pts]: 2x Chainfist, 4x Gorgon Terminator, Heavy Flamer, Power Fist Veteran Tactical Squad, Legion , Compulsory [215pts]: 8x Bolt Pistol, 6x Bolter, 9x Chainswords/Combat Blades, 3x Combi-weapon: Plasma gun, 9x Veteran Space Marines, Legion . Veteran Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Fist Veteran Tactical Squad, Legion , Compulsory [225pts]: 8x Bolt Pistol, 5x Bolter, 9x Chainswords/Combat Blades, 3x Combi-weapon: Plasma gun, Flamer, 9x Veteran Space Marines, Legion . Veteran Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Fist + Allegiance + Legion and Allegiance: X: Iron Hands, Loyalist Rite of War: Pride of the Legion + Use Playtest Rules + Use Playtest Rules: Playtest Rules On ++ Total: [995pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe Goal to go higher is add some more combi weapons, add another Vet Squad. Toss in some Vanquishers + Javelin Attack Speeders with Multi Meltas + maybe a Achilles Alpha Land Raider for more tanky goodness
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That second list is mean as hell but you are pretty low on bodies be careful getting outplayed on objectives or rough door placement making it hard for your contemptor to support your elite vets.
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I think praetors are generally overdoing it in ZM so you could save some points by just going with a delegatus.
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tallkidwithglasses posted:I suspected this but I wasn’t sure how it went with pride of the legion or the delegatus RoW. We need our resident Space Viking player to chime in
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FAQ says you can use non GS as troops when using a rite of war "..Note that when making use of a Rite of War which stipulates that another unit can be taken as a compulsory Troops choice, a Space Wolves detachment may instead take that unit to fulfil its compulsory Troops choices in order to meet the requirements of that Rite of War."
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gilljoy posted:FAQ says you can use non GS as troops when using a rite of war Oh cool! Grey slayers are likely still a better choice for your compulsory troops the majority of the time.
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Yeah, grey slayers are probably one of the best troops choices in the game. Being forced to take them is not really a problem and I kinda wish that FAQ had gone the other way to give Space Wolves an actual downside.
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Safety Factor posted:Yeah, grey slayers are probably one of the best troops choices in the game. Being forced to take them is not really a problem and I kinda wish that FAQ had gone the other way to give Space Wolves an actual downside. What, Awoo-pattern bolters and that Praetor sculpt aren't enough of a downside?
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What's wrong with the bolters?
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TTerrible posted:What's wrong with the bolters? They're upside down. The sight is underneath the bolter...
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Underslung laser.
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TTerrible posted:What's wrong with the bolters? 
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Phobos pattern is a bit different. Like, the whole front of the gun isn't usually upside down: 
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I wouldn't say the woofgun's underslung sight is worse than phobos' brass ejection port that isn't aligned with the barrel.
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Dec 29, 2019 16:24
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Looks like an angled fore grip to me
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Dec 29, 2019 20:34
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It's clearly a Magpul AFG style thing?
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Hixson posted:Looks like an angled fore grip to me TTerrible posted:It's clearly a Magpul AFG style thing? Yeah but if that’s the case it’s backwards. That’s not how grips work. 
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Sharks Dont Sleep posted:Yeah but if that’s the case it’s backwards. That’s not how grips work. That’s because he said Angled Fore Grip and not Grip Stop. 
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Dec 30, 2019 06:25
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I'm still not seeing the problem.
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Sharks Dont Sleep posted:Yeah but if that’s the case it’s backwards. That’s not how grips work. Oh yeah let’s use a 20th century example to dictate the 31st millennium 
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Knowing space wolves they'll steadfastly pretend they're subverting the savage warrior trope and actually it's highly sophisticated anti-infiltration techniques, seeing which alpha legion ding bat they can convince to hold their bolter upside down.
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You people seem to be reaching really heard here to be mad at an incredibly inconsequential detail on a bolter you’ll never buy
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Hixson posted:You people seem to be reaching really heard here to be mad at an incredibly inconsequential detail on a bolter you’ll never buy That's a lot of words to say you don't care.
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I think the bolters look cool, personally
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ijyt posted:Oh yeah let’s use a 20th century example to dictate the 31st millennium I suppose it wouldnt be an issue given the hand situations in 30k.
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I don't really hate the aesthetic but I think it's hilarious that they doubled down on it.
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Bunch of couch commando slackasses in here who don’t spend 3 hours per model with a needle stippling the foregrips of your legion bolters to match MagPul patterning.
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koreban posted:Bunch of couch commando slackasses in here who don’t spend 3 hours per model with a needle stippling the foregrips of your legion bolters to match MagPul patterning. I feel like BULBASAUR might actually have done this.
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I painted a big tank.      
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Why Sicaran no have wheels
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Booley posted:I painted a big tank. Looks solid! Does the point drop make it any more useful?
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That's a nice crisp paint job on the most ugly sicaran variant. Safety Factor posted:Yeah, grey slayers are probably one of the best troops choices in the game. Being forced to take them is not really a problem and I kinda wish that FAQ had gone the other way to give Space Wolves an actual downside. Totally agree. IMO they're a great legion that isn't super flexible... which felt pretty on point in how it was before the FAQ.
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Ghazk posted:Why Sicaran no have wheels
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Word Bearers Recon company up and running, got 3 squads of these guys now. Hilarious fun in ZM with melta bombs and scout/infiltrate.
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Nice work man. Are you running them WYSIWYG?
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BULBASAUR posted:Nice work man. Are you running them WYSIWYG? Yup, and running the whole army as the recon ROW. Core is three recon squads with shotguns and melts bombs infiltrating into cover and then suicide charging the nearest target while outrider squads scout upfield and go for turn two charges. Dick bikes also zoom Up and characters on bikes buffing with biomancy + apothecaries help mitigate first turn casualties that happen to not get saved by shrouding for the whole army on first turn. It’s a target saturation and I might chuck in some deep strike stuff or outflanking vets.
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  Cataphractii delegatus and terror squad. 2020 is off to a traitorous start.
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  Dead game SpaceViking posted:
Good start to the year. Hopefully NL will get some content in a Thramas article soon.
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