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Gosh. I just thought "Wow, that looks bad" and "what happens if you drop a book on it, how far apart is the grating? Could it land edge-down and slightly damage the spine?" And then every post since has been about yet another way (that hadn't occurred to me) in which it's horrible.
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Like imagine being on the top floor and your earring falls out.
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Dec 27, 2019 09:34
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Hell, imagine dropping your phone
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Dec 27, 2019 09:46
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New program: library pachinko
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Dec 27, 2019 09:53
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That's right, it is actually all going to filter down to the very bottom, isn't it. Where no one's gonna clean ever unless the library has got like a giant roomba. Oh well, silver lining, no more having to handle the lost & found, people can just crawl under the stacks and get their phone back, although it really isn't gonna help with the upskirting issue.
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Dec 27, 2019 10:01
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Instead of librarywide hide-and-seek games, they do library-wide Plinko. tbh I want to stand at the top, spread my legs, squat, and yell down, "HEY, NANCY! DID I TUCK MY TAMPON STRING IN BY MISTAKE?" E: "I DIDN'T? OKAY, LET'S PLAY THE FISHING GAME!" EE: oh no im yelling in the library!!!!
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Dec 27, 2019 11:21
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Found a few more picture's of Cornell's new hell library for the thread's enjoyment. Yeah, the floor gratings are pretty dang open.  I know someone with acrophobia who can't handle the kind of stairs that have an open space between the steps where a vertical riser normally goes, because they cause her to lose her sense of being on solid ground. This would be absolutely paralyzing.   "Let's see, what overall aesthetic theme should we go for? Hey, I know! The kill floor of a slaughterhouse!"  "But we still need something to give it a homey touch, to offset the clanging, echoing industrial feel... That's it! Chicken wire! Exposed chicken wire everywhere!" e: One more: 
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Dec 27, 2019 17:16
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Academia moves into the industrial farming corporate stage. I'm going to stick with free range education, like Socrates intended.
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Dec 27, 2019 17:23
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I'm not even normally afraid of heights, and I have a feeling I'd still be clinging to the railing on the upper levels from sheer terror.
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Dec 27, 2019 18:01
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Oh my gently caress they actually built it??? I misread and thought this was a concept package.
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Dec 27, 2019 19:38
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I just watched Lowtax streaming and it struck me that this library belongs in a poorly made Unity game.
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Dec 27, 2019 21:12
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oh gently caress no. My stomach just lurched like when goons were posting those videos of guys climbing around Russian skyscraper cranes with go-pros, or shots from that glass walkway over the Grand Canyon. It's me, I'm the one vomiting through the grate
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Dec 27, 2019 21:39
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MetaJew posted:The library is functioning as intended. Everyone knows you go there to look up things.
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Dec 27, 2019 21:47
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I'd bet the pictures absolutely represent how students use the stacks: they don't. Students use the desks on the ground floor and if they ever want a book they put in a pull request and make a worker grab it for them. This whole set up is extremely lovely on workers and on the books. How do you keep it clean? If you mop it, then you're pouring water on the books below you.
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Dec 27, 2019 22:11
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Powered Descent posted:
I can confirm -- I'm acrophobic and work in an office with a file warehouse with a metal-grate upper floor, and it's terrible, especially for file carts. At this point, it's standard to ask new hires if they're afraid of heights and then only assign ground-floor work to the acrophobes.
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Dec 28, 2019 01:31
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why are architects such dumb fucks / assholes?
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Dec 28, 2019 02:26
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That staircase looks like a cheese grater. Imagine falling (because it's all slippery bare metal) and little chunks of flesh get sheared off you and rain down below.
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Dec 28, 2019 02:33
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PhazonLink posted:why are architects such dumb fucks / assholes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvU5dmu4sl8
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Dec 28, 2019 02:37
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Vavrek posted:Gosh. I just thought "Wow, that looks bad" and "what happens if you drop a book on it, how far apart is the grating? Could it land edge-down and slightly damage the spine?" And then every post since has been about yet another way (that hadn't occurred to me) in which it's horrible. Same, friend, I keep thinking of all the awful stuff about this design, then Mr. Prokosch posts "how do you mop it?" And as someone who had to regularly pinch-hit maintenance stuff like vacuuming or taking care of some disaster in the women's restroom because I was the only woman on duty that night, I'm now scratching my head on that. It just gets worse and worse.
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Dec 28, 2019 08:49
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Gonna sound ignorant here but were brutalist library buildings of yore good for actually containing books and reading them?
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Dec 28, 2019 09:03
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Same, friend, I keep thinking of all the awful stuff about this design, then Mr. Prokosch posts "how do you mop it?" And as someone who had to regularly pinch-hit maintenance stuff like vacuuming or taking care of some disaster in the women's restroom because I was the only woman on duty that night, I'm now scratching my head on that. It just gets worse and worse. Uh, closed signs exist and can even be printed on the fly if need be. What the hell? As a former male janitor I can assure you we are able to clean the ladies' room in the event of a disaster.
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Dec 28, 2019 09:16
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PhazonLink posted:why are architects such dumb fucks / assholes? you know the trend among fashion designers to create clothing that is meant only as a work of art, and not for use by actual humans?
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Dec 28, 2019 16:59
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Another very good point about the library from hell, from the interior design thread:deoju posted:That grating allows for plenty of air flow between the vertical layers of flammable material...
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Dec 28, 2019 18:58
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Eeeeeh I guess so, but I don't feel like it's a major factor in that scenario? Like at the point where enough of it is on fire for that to be an issue, the real problem is the fire that's already there? I really don't know though! And I'm not a fire expert. e: what I do know is that one major damaging factor in a library fire is the water used for extinguishing it, and yeah, in that event, that is definitely going through three levels of stacks at once. My Lovely Horse fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Dec 28, 2019 |
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Dec 28, 2019 20:57
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It's fine. The snow slush that's tracked in via boots and shoes will drop down through the slats and soak the books, preventing any serious fire damage.  Water and snow salt damage, however....
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Dec 28, 2019 21:47
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therobit posted:Uh, closed signs exist and can even be printed on the fly if need be. What the hell? As a former male janitor I can assure you we are able to clean the ladies' room in the event of a disaster. Yeah, but I was in the theatre portion of the building, and we had a lot of after-hours events where the rest of the library was locked*, so patrons could only access one set of restrooms (we had two). So say someone had one too many beers before the local Celtic band played, they get up to puke all over the ladies' room. We couldn't really shut down our only women's restroom with 400 people in the theatre, so I'd get sent in. All our facilities staff were men, so during normal operating hours they'd take care of routine and emergency cleaning just like you said: put up a closed sign re-directing women to the other restroom. These were pretty rare occasions, and usually more mundane things like "the third stall is out of toilet paper", thankfully. *Not really locked, because that would be a fire hazard, but the doors were closed and all the lights were off in those sections.
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Vavrek posted:Gosh. I just thought "Wow, that looks bad" and "what happens if you drop a book on it, how far apart is the grating? Could it land edge-down and slightly damage the spine?" And then every post since has been about yet another way (that hadn't occurred to me) in which it's horrible. Yeah, grated floors are one of those things filed under "unless you have an actual need for them, don't." They're awful in basically every way and then just keep getting worse the more you think about them. If a building's purpose actually requires grated floors then fine whatever put them in but in a library? gently caress no.
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Oh my loving god the ventilation plan is literally "let's make the entire building full of dry paper a giant chimney flue" https://transsolar.com/projects/cornell-fine-arts-library 
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shame on an IGA posted:Oh my loving god the ventilation plan is literally "let's make the entire building full of dry paper a giant chimney flue" lmao This is amazing.
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Dec 29, 2019 02:53
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That library legit looks like a prison.
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Dec 29, 2019 03:00
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It's like they based it on the Beinecke but carefully removed all the features that make the Beinecke good
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Dec 29, 2019 03:07
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Disproportionation posted:That library legit looks like a prison. almost as aesthetic as a prison, but much more flammable
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Dec 29, 2019 05:28
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It's a good thing libraries don't care about noise because I'm pretty sure metal gratings in a giant open room are gonna be noisy as gently caress.
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Dec 29, 2019 06:18
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Imagine if you drop a penny or a key or something when you're on the top floor. CLANG CLANG CLANG GLANG
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Dec 29, 2019 06:31
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Imagine if you drop a penny or a key or something when you're on the top floor. If I dropped a key, that clanging would be accompanied by a very loud "GOD drat IT!"
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Dec 29, 2019 07:16
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I went to this ugly bitch back in my sexy college days. It's either called the Turkey or the Peacock, depending on your general optimism or lack thereof, and it's a windowless concrete death hole where you could easily hide many, many bodies. I once tried to go up the Robarts elevator to my first session of a class only to be told that there are multiple "versions" of the floor I needed and to go back down IMMEDIATELY. Like, this random guy actually crossed his arms and glared at me until the elevator doors closed. What hideous state secrets I stumbled upon, I'll never know.
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Dec 29, 2019 09:10
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 COBRA has built a secret base right under everyone's noses!
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Dec 29, 2019 11:18
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Someone got his degree from playing prison architect.
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Hey, it's been a long time since I posted a story! Was just reminded of an incident thanks to the r/relationships thread, of all places. We'll call it A Tale of Two Bitches (this ran a bit longer than I thought it would! Hopefully the pay-off is worth it) So during the summer, we always had lots of extra events for kids since they weren't school. Youth Services would do crafts in of of our meeting rooms, 3x a day (which is why I cringe every time I see glitter now). They had the space all day, so if the project involved paint or glue, kids could leave it there to dry, go romp around the kids' section, then swing by and pick it up before going home. One extremely hot evening, I'm working the desk by myself, and a patron comes in and mentions "Y'know there's a dog tied up outside, and the poor thing doesn't have any water." I stand up, and sure enough there's this eldery-looking dog tied to the bike rack right outside my entrance. Now, because of my tall desk (and I was probably browsing SA), I had no idea who had tied it up nor how long it had been there. I go outside, and the poor dog's in full sun around 5:00 in Virginia summer, lying on her side and panting like mad. I go back in, rifle thru our kitchenette to try to find a bowl --- no joy. I remember that I'd brought my dinner from home, so I dump my dinner onto a paper plate, wash the tupperware out, and bring her some water. She sucks it down like no tomorrow and I refill it. What to do? In retrospect, I guess I could've gone around to every single patron and asked "do you have a dog outside?", but I still had to staff my desk, and that would've taken forever. Plus, I just wanted to keep an eye on her. I hate seeing animals suffer. I call reference and ask if we have any guidelines on this. They do not, but suggest calling the police non-emergency line, just to see if, like, this was worth calling animal control. (They also brought up the valid point that tying a dog to a bike rack was a hazard; what if the dog snapped at someone chaining up their bike?) So I call, and the person I spoke to said they really weren't sure about the protocol either, they'd check and get back to me. About 5 or 10 minutes later, a uniformed cop shows up at my desk, inquiring about a dog. I was a bit surprised that they just sent a cop over. "Oh! Yes sir, she's right out there. She's not barking or threatening anyone, but, y'know, it's just so hot, and I have no idea how long she's been out there," I explain as we go outside. The bowl is bone dry again, and the friendly officer is giving the dog pats as I go back in to refill it. Just as I go back out, a woman and her kid come bursting through the door behind me, absolutely livid. "WHAT IS THIS?! WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MY DOG?!" The cop even takes a step back and calmly says "We were just concerned about your dog ma'am, it's awful hot out." "WELL WHO ARE YOU?!" she demands of me, then glares at the bowl in my hand as if it's full of antifreeze. "I work here. A patron mentioned the dog, and I've been bringing her water." "WELL THIS IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, AND" proceeds to keep ranting as she unties the dog. "Ma'am, just relax, she called us because she had no idea how long the dog had been here and was worried." "WE WERE ONLY IN THERE FIVE MINUTES! IN THE FUTURE, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS! COME ON! WE'RE LEAVING" The cop is looking a bit flabbergasted, and that's when I look to see how the kid is reacting. That's when I see it. The craft in her hand, which that day was little flower pots that were decorated with paint and glitter and glued-on things. The craft which had been made at least an hour and a half ago, maybe more. "Five minutes, my loving rear end" I think, but do not say. Which, though ungratifying, was for the best because some time later, after the dust settled and I was back at my desk, the ref librarian in charge came down and said "Uh, I just got a phone call from a patron..." If I'd said it, I wouldn't have had a "oh, it's a he-said she-said thing" excuse, since the cop was standing right there. I explained the whole story, ref guy says I did nothing wrong, she was a hot-head, good job, yadda yadda. Before the cop left, though, as we were standing out there sweating and shaking our heads, I did tell him about the craft and that the woman had just totally lied to us about "five minutes". He cocks an eyebrow, says "Really?" and looks around the parking lot in the direction the woman had stalked off to. Then with a wave and telling me to have a nice night, hops into his cruiser and busts out of the parking lot at Warp 7. My fantasy is that she left in such a huff that she was speeding, aggressively driving, maybe blew a stop sign, and that Officer Dog Lover pulled her bitch rear end over. One can dream. Epilogue: the ref folks must've spread the whole story around, because the next day everyone on staff was all "Hey, it's JD, canine hero!" "Ayyy, how's the patron saint of dogs today?" and other such accolades.
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