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Cats is an experiment to see just how mundane a subject matter you can make a Broadway hit with at least one catchy song everyone knows. Its been working for 30 drat years lol
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Boba Pearl posted:It's the reporters fault for plugging mysterious USB devices into their computers. loving exactly lol. Instead of outright claiming they were hacked it should have just autoplayed a really loud MP3 proclaiming the user of this computer to be a loving moron
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Boba Pearl posted:It's the reporters fault for plugging mysterious USB devices into their computers. Yeah this is Penetration Testing 101 leave a USB stick in the parking lot with a file on it called 1stQuarterLayoffs.pdf.exe and someone's going to double click on it and wonder why it won't open.
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Memento posted:Yeah this is Penetration Testing 101 My office never does this properly and it's a huge pain in the rear end.
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Alex Goldman from Reply All (A somewhat popular tech podcast) introduces himself before saying "you've been hacked" so there's a decent chance that some of the journalists would have figured out what was up. Somewhat related, there's a funny episode of Reply All where Alex hacks his co-hosts cell phone and spies on his life for a week. Audio recording at any time, geo-positioning, emails, the works. Alex is frustrated at discovering that his co-host is incredibly boring.
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InediblePenguin posted:loving exactly lol. Instead of outright claiming they were hacked it should have just autoplayed a really loud MP3 proclaiming the user of this computer to be a loving moron "Hey everybody I'm looking at gay porno!" 
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Memento posted:Yeah this is Penetration Testing 101 I keep clicking but it won't open?
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Fruits of the sea posted:Alex Goldman from Reply All (A somewhat popular tech podcast) introduces himself before saying "you've been hacked" so there's a decent chance that some of the journalists would have figured out what was up. No, it's Alex who gets hacked. The episode is called "The Secret Life of Alex Goldman". The level of mutual exasperation is fantastic. quote:PJ: I now own hours and hours and hours of recordings that are just like this. Like, there's nothing. There's like no behind the scenes. Like it's like a movie, and then they do the director's commentary, and it's just the dialogue of the movie again.
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My favorite was PJ pulling in an unauthorized third person, and the third person having basically the same reaction. "I feel like I'm spying on an incredibly wholesome mundane family life. He seems like a really nice guy/husband/father."
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Push El Burrito posted:My office never does this properly and it's a huge pain in the rear end. Back what when I was network administrator years ago I had this crap automated. If someone plugged in anything that tried to do an exploit, my anti-virus server would catch it and drop the computer from the network. I forget how I did it, but it was clever. I somehow got the anti-virus to talk to Smoothwall to drop internal IPs. I'd get an email within a second telling me the jackass that wasn't following protocol so I could tap them on shoulder as they desperately tried to hide their idiocy. It was fun.
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:No, it's Alex who gets hacked. The episode is called "The Secret Life of Alex Goldman". The level of mutual exasperation is fantastic. Oh yeah, I always confuse their names for some reason. The "Long Distance" episode about telephone scammers is also real good.
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What is it about certain marketing teams that makes them think poo poo like this is a good idea? Is it the old "any press is good press" thing, or do people genuinely think this poo poo is going to work?Push El Burrito posted:My office never does this properly and it's a huge pain in the rear end. 
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SpacePig posted:What is it about certain marketing teams that makes them think poo poo like this is a good idea? Is it the old "any press is good press" thing, or do people genuinely think this poo poo is going to work? Most marketing exec's are so detached from your average person they have no idea what actually is effective.
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Dec 29, 2019 16:03
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Marketing firms only need to make their clients think they know what they're doing.
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SpacePig posted:What is it about certain marketing teams that makes them think poo poo like this is a good idea? Is it the old "any press is good press" thing, or do people genuinely think this poo poo is going to work? Weird poo poo happens when you have a bunch of metrics to work with but don't conceptualize your customers as people.
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Schubalts posted:Marketing firms only need to make their clients think they know what they're doing. I've heard the theory that marketing firms are basically a toxoplamosis like brain parasite on corporations; they exist primarily to convince the organisation that they are needed. That said, could say the same about bosses...
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Dec 29, 2019 16:42
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I can't say that they're justified; but the story about Moxie (most popular soda in the US, became culturally ubiquitous, decided to slash the advertising budget one year, became an also-ran in the soda market) sure as hell scares a lot of CEOs into generous advertising budgets.
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Isn't that story apocryphal? I vaguely remember trying to track down details and finding nothing about advertising reduction.
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Strudel Man posted:Isn't that story apocryphal? I vaguely remember trying to track down details and finding nothing about advertising reduction. A quick check shows it was hammered by the Great Depression and then management doubling prices while slashing quality.
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Dec 29, 2019 21:40
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I heard it tastes like poo poo. Never tried it though.
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Ralph Crammed In posted:I heard it tastes like poo poo. Never tried it though. It’s flavored with gentian, so imagine root beer with a slightly more bitter herbal flavor.
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Dec 29, 2019 21:46
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Strudel Man posted:Isn't that story apocryphal? I vaguely remember trying to track down details and finding nothing about advertising reduction. I heard the same story but it involved Colgate.
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chitoryu12 posted:It’s flavored with gentian, so imagine root beer with a slightly more bitter herbal flavor. Well I like root beer and sarsaparilla so maybe I'd like Moxie. I can see how some people would hate it. Root beer isn't a thing in Europe and when I give it to Europeans they say it tastes like toothpaste.
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Ralph Crammed In posted:Well I like root beer and sarsaparilla so maybe I'd like Moxie. I can see how some people would hate it. Root beer isn't a thing in Europe and when I give it to Europeans they say it tastes like toothpaste. Yeah, it’s one of those drinks that started as a health tonic sort of thing and is still around. It’s a more acquired taste than typical soft drinks because of the gentian but it’s not bad or anything.
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Moxie is great but it's more a sipping soda than it is something you pound for refreshment.
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Is it like Dr Pepper, I like Dr Pepper
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chitoryu12 posted:Yeah, it’s one of those drinks that started as a health tonic sort of thing and is still around. TBF that is basically every drink.
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Anticheese posted:I heard the same story but it involved Colgate. Consumer good market elasticity due to advertising should be enough to prove to anyone there are not rational actors driving things.
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Sir Lemming posted:TBF that is basically every drink. Coke must have been amazing when it still had literal coke in it
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Anticheese posted:I heard the same story but it involved Colgate.
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Randaconda posted:Coke must have been amazing when it still had literal coke in it Just imagine what it will be like when science proves caffeine gives you babydick or something and gets outlawed.
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Arizona Tea doesn't do anything but PR, iirc
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Not sure if it's still true, but Huy Fong Foods (sriracha sauce) made its founder a billionaire without spending a cent on advertising.
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Please just call it Cock Sauce like everybody else does.
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I worked for a business who stopped advertising for 18 months so they could "invest in the quality of their product", managed to gently caress that up reaaaaal bad, and then went into a death spiral they could not recover from and got bought out by a competitor for a song. Im not saying "lets cut all advertising" is the exact thing that killed them, just that decisions like that typically are only made when a business is already distressed or in conjunction with other "interesting" moves.
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The thing about advertising is it works best when your product is easily replaceable and name recognition is one of the only real edges you have.
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"The advertising is working because we're talking about it!"
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Pretty sure Moxie is still crazy popular but only in specific areas of Massachusetts.
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jojoinnit posted:Pretty sure Moxie is still crazy popular but only in specific areas of Massachusetts. Mass and north. Not here in CT, but anytime I go to NH or Maine I see it around.
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