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Jerry Cotton posted:I literally don't even remember a Daisy Fitzroy Yeah it's a painfully ill-advised "maybe both sides  " that has all the subtlety of well... a video game made for teenage boys
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i never got the "truth is in the middle" south-park weedling vibe from b:i despite that being a major point of contention for everyone else, it felt a lot more like "this situation is totally hosed and there are no magic happy endings despite your good intentions" which tied into the final cutscene really well the last third of the game where you're fighting like ghost trumpets and angry ghost mom and stuff really does suck badly though never played any of the DLC so i can't weigh in on how terrible it is
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Lodin posted:I wish games would start having manuals again and I don't care if they're only digital. Also, they don't need poo poo like instructions for controls and gameplay, that's what tutorials are for. Instead give me a bunch of fluff and some cool artwork as a nice bonus. iirc tenth line had a basic digital manual with some interesting official art and sketches in but then that depends on how much you like playing Furry Valkyrie Profile
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So this thread is seeming to generate more reports lately. Lotsa bickering and slapfights. Try to focus on like video games instead of that poo poo. We’re not seeing bigotry being posted, other than old punished rap sheets, so let’s keep this thread on the rails so you nerds can fight about nerd games. Post about games, not posters. Report bigotry. Tia
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I pmed razorrozar and razorrozar pmed me and we worked out our issues like grownups. I would recommend this approach to others in the future! I'm sorry if my bad posts and jokes in the past gave the impression that I wished ill on any of you and I genuinely wish you all the best.
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food court bailiff posted:i never got the "truth is in the middle" south-park weedling vibe from b:i despite that being a major point of contention for everyone else, it felt a lot more like "this situation is totally hosed and there are no magic happy endings despite your good intentions" which tied into the final cutscene really well Songbird deserved better 
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poverty goat posted:I pmed razorrozar and razorrozar pmed me and we worked out our issues like grownups. I would recommend this approach to others in the future! I'm sorry if my bad posts and jokes in the past gave the impression that I wished ill on any of you and I genuinely wish you all the best. confirming, everything's cool now. apologies, burt.
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Dec 31, 2019 03:36
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Wtfwtfwtf!,,,,,,,,,! Adults? Having fun?! Good job being examples of decent humans. I really hate jumping in on poo poo like that, so y’all know. Goons...good?
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How can someone sit there and say video games "have never been and never will be art"? Although it's a fair point to question the artistic merits of most video games, to sit there and say it's not an artistic medium is absurd. Video games are still in their relative infancy, and I'm sure they compare pretty well to the absurdity that was early film. I would even argue that video games are more engaging than film because it has direct interaction, which helps substitute for the lack of interpretation and projection when compared to literature. Just because something like Call of Duty isn't art doesn't mean something like Half Life 2 or System Shock 2 can't be considered artistic.
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DildenAnders posted:How can someone sit there and say video games "have never been and never will be art"? Although it's a fair point to question the artistic merits of most video games, to sit there and say it's not an artistic medium is absurd. Video games are still in their relative infancy, and I'm sure they compare pretty well to the absurdity that was early film. I would even argue that video games are more engaging than film because it has direct interaction, which helps substitute for the lack of interpretation and projection when compared to literature. Just because something like Call of Duty isn't art doesn't mean something like Half Life 2 or System Shock 2 can't be considered artistic. A picture of Campbell tomato soup is art. Everything is. Like my posts.
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Dec 31, 2019 03:58
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I’ve noticed that there is pretty much a 100% crossover between the posters who like to declare that games can’t be art and posters who’s opinions are consistently terrible about everything.
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is pepsi ok posted:Yeah I love the game but I always maintain that that was an irredeemable flaw.
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People saying video games are art really just want video games to be fancy things their parents will respect them for owning because they can't stand the opera It ain't gonna happen even when you get the video game equivalent of Oscar winners folks. Also have you looked at oscar winners lately, it's almost entirely the worst pandering to rich white people poo poo
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Dec 31, 2019 04:13
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Worrying about whether stuff is or isnt art is pretentious wankery, because art is such an ambiguous term. Just enjoy it for what it is and dont worry about which worthless labels to give it.
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FoolyCharged posted:Worrying about whether stuff is or isnt art is pretentious wankery, because art is such an ambiguous term. All true, but thinking about changing my name to Pretentious Wankery.
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Dec 31, 2019 04:23
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Ghost Leviathan posted:People saying video games are art really just want video games to be fancy things their parents will respect them for owning because they can't stand the opera Do you spend a lot of time worrying about what your parents think about your media consumption choices, or do you just have them regularly send you screenshots of their Netflix queue to ensure that you're always in compliance with their standards?
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Dec 31, 2019 06:06
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Please take the discussion of what is and is not art to the unpopular modern art opinions thread because those assholes have some really whacky ideas about what constitutes high art
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Dec 31, 2019 06:12
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Seriously if you think calling disco Elysium art is a civilizational crisis just wait till you find out about Jackson Pollock
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Dec 31, 2019 06:15
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Plz link that because it sounds hilarious
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Dec 31, 2019 06:16
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Its super easy to be art, just make something creative to try to make someone feel something, its not some high achievement to be called "art" and it doesn't have to be good or even original.
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the only cogent argument ive seen against video games being art is that their creators do not have control over the way the consumer interfaces with the product but, like, isn't the consumer's reaction an integral part of art? allowing the consumer more freedom in how they react doesn't make it not art
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Dec 31, 2019 06:37
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I gotta be honest, I’m really confused what my parents’ dislike of opera has to do with video games at all.
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DildenAnders posted:How can someone sit there and say video games "have never been and never will be art"? Although it's a fair point to question the artistic merits of most video games, to sit there and say it's not an artistic medium is absurd. Video games are still in their relative infancy, and I'm sure they compare pretty well to the absurdity that was early film. I would even argue that video games are more engaging than film because it has direct interaction, which helps substitute for the lack of interpretation and projection when compared to literature. Just because something like Call of Duty isn't art doesn't mean something like Half Life 2 or System Shock 2 can't be considered artistic. I'm not entirely serious when I say video games "have never been and never will be art" but I personally don't think of them as anything more than a time-wasting leisure activity. I am entirely serious when I say story in video games is usually poor and in an ideal world there would be just enough of it to justify the gameplay, nothing more or less. And gameplay should always 100000% come before story in a video game, full stop. System Shock 2 is one of my favorite games and it is entirely because of SHODAN who is a super interesting character and who, more importantly, is obviously super interested in the protagonist. I don't know if feeling that way about her makes me a hypocrite or not.
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:I'm not entirely serious when I say video games "have never been and never will be art" but I personally don't think of them as anything more than a time-wasting leisure activity. No one loving cares nerd
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Dec 31, 2019 06:44
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Sorry that was out of line. I’ll check out of this thread now lol
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You're lucky QCS is still closed or I'd be making a thread right fuckin now.
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:I am entirely serious when I say story in video games is usually poor and in an ideal world there would be just enough of it to justify the gameplay, nothing more or less. And gameplay should always 100000% come before story in a video game, full stop. you're not wrong about the stories being poor but lack of quality alone isn't enough to disqualify something from being art imo
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Unpopular Opinion: Night Trap and other early FMV games of its ilk actually had a pretty cool idea for their main gameplay loop that's worth further exploration. Five Nights At Freddy's wasn't a super deep game but it proved that the setup of being a vulnerable meat bag with only a janky security system standing between you and death has a lot of potential.
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Hell, even the Make My Video games were kinda on to something. What if you replaced all of the music videos and public domain crap with a bunch of weird poo poo out of The Ring and were tasked with arranging it into a film that could summon a demon?
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Dec 31, 2019 06:56
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art is the song in your heart and the story in your soul, and also the video game idea you have
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Horror has always been something video games do really well and with a lot of potential for exploring ideas outside the typical gameplay loops. Reminded of the original Metal Gear where supposedly the producer was confused by the idea of a game where you avoid enemies instead of fighting them. Five Nights works well because it's basically built around literal nightmare logic, a horrific threat to life and limb that no one else seems to recognise and only the most flimsy and nonsensical means of protection between it and your horrific offscreen death. And it also works far too well as a metaphor for capitalism.
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:And gameplay should always 100000% come before story in a video game, full stop.
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Saying all video games need to be limited or focus on one specific thing is just an all around really loving dumb opinion.
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Dec 31, 2019 07:28
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Also, video games need more farting.
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The idea that interactivity invalidates a piece of art is about the dumbest poo poo I ever heard
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Waltzing Along posted:Also, video games need more farting. i would not be against WarioWare Switch
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Dec 31, 2019 14:58
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What about Boogerman
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It’s interesting that placing anything in a digitally interactive environment negates any being of art it once had. This somehow includes digital art as well.
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signalnoise posted:The idea that interactivity invalidates a piece of art is about the dumbest poo poo I ever heard Sounds like an idea someone who hasn't seen an art since the 19th century or so would hold, anyway. It's not like there isn't interactive art that isn't games.
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Leonardo friggin hated the model for Mona Lisa and it was intended as a dart board (100 points if you hit the moving eyes). It's a game, therefore not art. Originally it had stink lines and the words "vapid c***" on the forehead but the restorers took liberties
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