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It also keeps them around for devotion purposes in addition to passive and triggered abilities, like some sort of card type that it turns them into.
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TheMaestroso posted:I'm pretty sure once it stops being a planeswalker, its abilities can't be used since you have to add or subtract loyalty and enchantments have no rules regarding loyalty counters. You can still use loyalty abilities if the permanent stops being a planeswalker, see War of the Spark Sarkhan's +1
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Since they reprinted Gary it's only fair for them to reprint Fanatic of Mogis too, right? *quickly glances at Irencrag Feat and Deathbellow War Cry*
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The best to happen to MtG in 2019 was absolutely when The Prof and Pleasant Kenobi did a full Steamed Hams at the beginning of one of his videos and you should all watch it again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMVZpPlCCE4&t=137s it's just the first 3 minutes, but it makes me giggle like a baby
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Seems good in Kestia EDH. Well, maybe not "good", 4cmc is high. Reik fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Dec 31, 2019 |
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it has some applications if you're playing a game where you'll have a ton of enchantments and your opponent(s) won't but other than that it's a 4 mana fog
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why, does that deck play Safe Passage
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Barry Shitpeas posted:You can still use loyalty abilities if the permanent stops being a planeswalker, see War of the Spark Sarkhan's +1 Sarkhan's ability doesn't make them lose other card types, though.
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Dec 31, 2019 16:58
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Inspire Fear should give all your creatures Fear; flavor fail.
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TheMaestroso posted:Sarkhan's ability doesn't make them lose other card types, though. It does, for a card to retain it's current type when it's affected by a type-changing effect the effect needs to say something like "it's still a planeswalker", like most Gideon cards. Comprehensive rules posted:205.1a Some effects set an object’s card type. In such cases, the new card type(s) replaces any existing card types. Counters, effects, and damage marked on the object remain with it, even if they are meaningless to the new card type. Similarly, when an effect sets one or more of an object’s subtypes, the new subtype(s) replaces any existing subtypes from the appropriate set (creature types, land types, artifact types, enchantment types, planeswalker types, or spell types). If an object’s card type is removed, the subtypes correlated with that card type will remain if they are also the subtypes of a card type the object currently has; otherwise, they are also removed for the entire time the object’s card type is removed. Removing an object’s subtype doesn’t affect its card types at all. As for loyalty abilities, any permanent with loyalty counters and loyalty abilities can use them, even if they don't have the loyalty characteristic, which only planeswalkers can have (weird, I know). Do note that creatures, unlike planeswalkers, do not die for having 0 loyalty and do not lose loyalty counters when they take damage, so you can't damage Sarkhan's dragons and cause them to lose loyalty, and they can still attack even after you use a - ability that reduces them to 0 loyalty, though they will die when the type changing effect runs out at EoT. Snicker-Snack fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Dec 31, 2019 |
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https://twitter.com/day9tv/status/1212055819606462464
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And ball dropped. 
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They really don’t know what to do with white as a color eh? Lifegain, +1/+1 counters, tokens, vigilance. Choose 2.
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Puny God. Self-Mill beater could be good. At a minimum I bet people will have some blowouts in limited if there's enough enablers.
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Yeah it seems like wizards wants mono-white to be some kind of soul sisters deck. Hopefully that comes together as I do like soul sisters. Daxos and Queen Linden do work amazingly with Heliod. With how queen linden is worded, each creature you attack with triggers heliod a separate time. Ajani's pridemate is still in standard as well. So, hopefully it comes together and functions.
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So this is the Queen Linden payoff card? Dunno if that really makes the cut but it's a nice effect that will probably find a home somewhere.
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Really cute that they thought Heliod would be good if they gave him old Thassa's statline. Even the activated ability has the same overall mana cost.
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Looks like it will be worth exploring lifegain again, since Pridemate, the Ajani that makes Pridemates and Aerialist are in the format.
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Mat Cauthon posted:So this is the Queen Linden payoff card? Dunno if that really makes the cut but it's a nice effect that will probably find a home somewhere. yeah, Fingers pointed out on Discord that Linden/Heliod/Pridemate seems like a potentially good start to a mono-white aggro deck
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Elyv posted:yeah, Fingers pointed out on Discord that Linden/Heliod/Pridemate seems like a potentially good start to a mono-white aggro deck You need your 3 drop to not be conditional in an aggro deck I feel like. I feel like the devotion count is a little high to be honest.
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Appreciate the reprint
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Even getting the worst 2 of your next 3 cards this is great
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TheKingofSprings posted:Even getting the worst 2 of your next 3 cards this is great Unless your opponent tricks you into taking the worst card face down by itself LSV is going to love this effect
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it reminds me of Fortune's Favor, which I remember as being a fine card. reads like a standard roleplayer to me, although probably not a 4 of
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Koirhor posted:Appreciate the reprint  With this being such an enchantment focused set, I'd almost be willing to bet it might see some standard play. Also it may work well with multiple copies of Oath of Kaya, but still possibly not as efficiently as Danse.
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I like how Atris, a rare, is more interesting than Heliod, a mythic.
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Definitely making EDH Boat Tribal with this.
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Being able to reliably cast Ethereal Absolution every game is absolutely huge in this meta
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Heliod + Walking Ballista blows away all the other jank Walking Ballista combos in Pioneer.
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The original Heliod was by far the worst of the monocolor Theros gods and I think he might still be better than this new one. He’s legit 100% useless unless you have another creature on the board with him, and unlike the original Purophoros he doesn’t do anywhere near enough with other creatures out to be worth the downside. In a set where the other monocolor gods are a creature medallion + potential card advantage activated ability, a sac outlet that also serves as a disincentive for board wipes, and an indestructible sneak attack, he’s just a loving joke. I guess this combos with Walking Ballista at least?
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Multiple instances of lifelink not stacking is bullshit. I remember the good times we had, Genju of the Fields.
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Looking forward to giving Orzhov and/or Esper control a shot
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Heliod + Ballista seems broken. A two card combo, where one of the pieces is indestructible and the other is colorless? A million good synergies to build around it? Goes off at instant speed? Seems hosed up
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Bust Rodd posted:Being able to reliably cast Ethereal Absolution every game is absolutely huge in this meta Or shove it into Jeskai Fires
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