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Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Sinteres posted:

I promise Bernie isn't going to come out and say Soleimani was actually good.

Is this supposed to reflect well on bernie

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cda
Jan 2, 2010

by Hand Knit

Fast Luck posted:

BRO IRAN IS GOING TO BE DRAGGED INTO WAR REGARDLESS BRO AND MAY ALREADY HAVE BEEN

lol

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005


now that's some premium ghoul, dude has been crowing for this for years

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/09/irans-bad-behavior-leaves-trump-with-just-one-choice-commentary.html

quote:

Every day, it seems like Iran is provoking the U.S. with another incident. Just Monday, Iranian gun boats harassed yet another U.S. naval vessel. And Saturday, the Iranians conducted a provocative, and possibly illegal, test of a Russian-made S-300 surface-to-air, laser-guided missile defense system. On our side, President Donald Trump has made some public promises to get tougher on Iran.

So are we headed for a direct shooting war with Tehran? And if we're not going to war, what on earth will work when it comes to dealing with this country?
...
As bad as Iran has acted on the world stage since 1979, its nefarious reach was significantly muted for decades by the sanctions and their economic effect. President Obama's release of massive cash back to the Mullahs means it will take a lot longer for new sanctions to achieve the same effect. So too is the fact that European nations are more brazenly doing business in Iran right now. But President Trump's moves, especially singling out more individuals for sanctions, are a good start.

The U.S. and the other Western powers have proved time and again that they cannot "fix" regimes like Iran and Syria unless they topple them completely, and then what is left is often just as bad. So, beyond launching a direct war where millions will likely be killed, there's not much more America can do than impose sanctions and talk as tough as we can. That means the terror will continue, the human rights violations will continue, the carnage will continue. But all-out war won't happen. It's a lousy pair of choices, but containment is the only one that makes sense.

cool dance moves
Aug 27, 2018


We should probably make a mental note of which journos/publications are cheerleading war rn so we can send them to the Hague if we ever get the chance

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


also max boot is on CNN right now lmao that's real smart

SpaceGoku
Jul 19, 2011

cool dance moves posted:

We should probably make a mental note of which journos/publications are cheerleading war rn so we can send them to the Hague if we ever get the chance

searching wikipedia for the list of american news media companies

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Algund Eenboom posted:

Is this supposed to reflect well on bernie
bernie is so spineless he once called hugo chavez a "dead communist dictator." expecting from him anything other than clearing the low bar set by well hmm literally all other mainstream US politicians is naive

cool dance moves
Aug 27, 2018


God max boot must be feeling positively rapturous. Must be imagining fields and valleys full of dead Iranian civilians, and its giving him a joy few have ever known

cda
Jan 2, 2010

by Hand Knit

Fast Luck posted:

Hmm how could Iran end up in a war here

(US breaks deescalation deal)

I don't think Iran will end up in a war here

(US assassinates their top general)

Well, the only way Iran could end up in a war here is...



BRO IRAN IS GOING TO BE DRAGGED INTO WAR REGARDLESS BRO AND MAY ALREADY HAVE BEEN

To come back to this though, yeah of course, if the US wants to have a war with Iran, the US is going to find a pretext to have a war with Iran, but all the centrists I know have been forecasting a war with Iran for over a decade and somehow the Iranians keep not starting a war. Iranian leaders aren't complete dumb shits like ours are because they have to come up in the snake pit of Iranian politics instead of being reality show contestants.

cool dance moves
Aug 27, 2018


https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1212959356599357441
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1212959357425651713

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
using my once in a lifetime posting own tweet just because I don't think The Onion has a tweet for this article

https://twitter.com/taintberner/status/1212957321837629442

THS
Sep 15, 2017

bad bernie: centers the dead us troops instead of all the people we murdered

good bernie: didnt immediately start with “he was no angel,”

papersack
Jul 27, 2003


But Trump is still in power??

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/statu...ingawful.com%2F

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

In fraught times like this it’s important to remember the little things that make us smile https://mobile.twitter.com/cordeliers/status/1188445250634878976

RaySmuckles
Oct 14, 2009


:vapes:
Grimey Drawer

still only bernie/bernie IS the compromise candidate

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!


https://twitter.com/HeleneFernand16/status/1212974804212633600

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Taintrunner posted:

also max boot is on CNN right now lmao that's real smart

i was given one of his books when I was 12 and don’t worry guys technology means Pax Americana will last 500 years and we will never suffer major casualties again

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Frosted Flake posted:

A gypsy put a curse on me that said “The girl that I marry has got to be an Airborne Ranger with a CIB”. Looks like I’m getting hitched imminently.

Get some Canadian passports

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.

cda posted:

Bad guys no. 1, 2, and 4

bad guy no 3 lays awake every night wondering if it's him

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

:cry::cry:
tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
:cry::cry:
p.s. help my grapes are so sour!

cda posted:

Bad guys no. 1, 2, and 4

can probably workshop this into a mambo no. 5 riff

Dom is Here
Nov 11, 2016

Lipstick Apathy

Fast Luck posted:

the tankies are right and always have been

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Taintrunner posted:

using my once in a lifetime posting own tweet just because I don't think The Onion has a tweet for this article

https://twitter.com/taintberner/status/1212957321837629442


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKk4Cq56d1Y

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1212924347024891905?s=19

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Raskolnikov38 posted:

how is cheating original thinking

No such thing as a no win scenario .

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1212927026442702853

lol

J. P. Beagley
Apr 11, 2008

Is there a good resource (preferably online and current) that summarizes as much as possible the different factions, forces, etc. in the Middle East + how Western powers meddle, etc.?

Feels like I need to understand all this a bit more.

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

https://twitter.com/IdahoBones/status/1212923545069772800

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

genuine question: why wouldn't the Iranians do some kind of a "measured response" (lol west wing is real life) against US forces in Iraq to avoid looking weak then go loving nuts on Saudi oil fields with drones or missiles?

The theory, poorly thought out as it is, goes that there's no appetite for casualties defending Saudi Arabian economic interests, but merking a carrier might actually piss off enough shitlibs to require another response.

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

https://twitter.com/dumbdidi/status/1212935081695858693?s=19

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

I mean yeah they're not that dumb and its mostly going to be other people that die. On the other hand: amer*cans

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Azathoth posted:

genuine question: why wouldn't the Iranians do some kind of a "measured response" (lol west wing is real life) against US forces in Iraq to avoid looking weak then go loving nuts on Saudi oil fields with drones or missiles?

The theory, poorly thought out as it is, goes that there's no appetite for casualties defending Saudi Arabian economic interests, but merking a carrier might actually piss off enough shitlibs to require another response.

that seems like the most likely outcome to me. Iraq becomes a proxy battlefield and Iran can gently caress with oil production without making any explicit move against the US, making any further escalation on the US's part even dumber. then again given how much of the american establishment lusts for persian death it's hard to imagine there are a lot of rational actors at play here.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

https://twitter.com/hayesdavenport/status/1212979754535489537

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Oh gently caress it man, who the gently caress knows what could happen at this point. I'm not putting anything off the table, I totally get people's fears that their dumbfuck President might have triggered something even his goodbrains foresight was too omnipresent to see coming

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.
published in the afternoon of the 2nd

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/02/opinion/hypersonic-missiles.html

quote:

What if the former commander of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, Qassem Soleimani, visits Baghdad for a meeting and you know the address? The temptations to use hypersonic missiles will be many.

lol

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
https://twitter.com/hayesdavenport/status/1212979754535489537

scum

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
The Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft

axelord
Dec 28, 2012

College Slice

Azathoth posted:

genuine question: why wouldn't the Iranians do some kind of a "measured response" (lol west wing is real life) against US forces in Iraq to avoid looking weak then go loving nuts on Saudi oil fields with drones or missiles?

The theory, poorly thought out as it is, goes that there's no appetite for casualties defending Saudi Arabian economic interests, but merking a carrier might actually piss off enough shitlibs to require another response.

It's better to take a punch than look like a little bitch.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



lol what da gently caress

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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


yoakum county sheriff here. we are closely monitoring the situation in iran. if the quds forces try to rob the only liquor store in town, by God we Will Defeat Them

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