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ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Beefeater1980 posted:

E: The only response is terror attacks, isn’t it. It’s not like Iran has any capacity to mount a conventional attack on the US.

There's a certain dark part of me that would find it extremely funny if Iran pulled a troll move by retaliating via assassinating pence or some other high profile US figure, which tbqh they probably have a solid enough intelligence apparatus to pull off if they really wanted to

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moostaffa
Apr 2, 2008

People always ask me about Toad, It's fantastic. Let me tell you about Toad. I do very well with Toad. I love Toad. No one loves Toad more than me, BELIEVE ME. Toad loves me. I have the best Toad.
Saudi Aramco has only been publicly traded for like 3 weeks. I'm sure that has noooothing to do with this.

Doccykins
Feb 21, 2006

Beefeater1980 posted:

What the gently caress, I come back into the thread after a hangover and the US is straight up assassinating foreign military leaders now?

E: The only response is terror attacks, isn’t it. It’s not like Iran has any capacity to mount a conventional attack on the US.

E2: ok so sequence of events is
- Iran organises protests against US embassy in Iraq to show they are the big important power locally

- US murders prominent Iranian general to show that no actually they are the big important power locally

- Iran threatens war

E3: I guess this is a response to what happened in Benghazi: the idea is to deter individual foreign military leaders from the “let’s gently caress with your embassy” strategy.

Iran's next play is likely announcing they're going to accelerate uranium enrichment again, ostensibly to defend themselves from US invasion

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2019-12/news/iran-newly-breaches-nuclear-deal

Smeef
Aug 15, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



Pillbug

Bobby Deluxe posted:

So pretty much Malcolm Gladwell?

But way, way more bitter. And I haven't read any Gladwell books, but I think Gladwell is more into social sciences, not frontier science and tech.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






Still collating thoughts on this but I suspect it’s Benghazi 2. The US has a lot of embassies everywhere and they are vulnerable. Last time the leadership of one of the countries they were loving around with decided to murder a few Americans to show its displeasure, a US embassy was overrun and the inhabitants including fellow goon Vilerat were killed.

The Iranian security services clearly decided that this was a good strategy for loving with America, but failed to account for the fact that American leadership right now is (a) hyper aggressive (b) looking for a win so they can seem tough; and (c) blithely unconcerned with consequences.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
https://twitter.com/ladyhaja/status/1212862607788564480

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


I expected 2020 to be a poo poo year, but this was a little faster than I was expecting. I thought we’d kind of ease into it.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Not so much the 'roaring twenties' as the 'continuous wail of existential anguish twenties.'

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Bobby Deluxe posted:

^^^ A ton of which we'll end up getting, us being easy to lump in with the US as 'the english speaking rich white assholes' and us being easier to reach.

The Iranians have a long collective memory and hate us almost as much as they hate the US, entirely independent of our status of lapdog to post-war American foreign policy.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
So will Boris drag us into this incredibly stupid war?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

ThomasPaine posted:

There's a certain dark part of me that would find it extremely funny if Iran pulled a troll move by retaliating via assassinating pence or some other high profile US figure, which tbqh they probably have a solid enough intelligence apparatus to pull off if they really wanted to

Without getting into territory likely to get Lowtax another visit, this at least is fairly unlikely. The VP gets basically exactly the same protection as the President, and given Pence's rather more withdrawn public life, he's probably the hardest target in the world.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

The Iranians have a long collective memory and hate us almost as much as they hate the US, entirely independent of our status of lapdog to post-war American foreign policy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Uncle_Napoleon

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jose posted:

So will Boris drag us into this incredibly stupid war?

Of course he loving will. Even without his complete reliance on US goodwill to keep the economy going post-Brexit, he's a public schoolboy who completely buys into that Victorian Empire mindset, with a Churchill fetish on top of it - he'll jump on the slightest opportunity to show Johnny Foreigner what's what. We're now basically reliant on Fox and Friends maybe suggesting war isn't good to prevent getting dragged into this poo poo.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

That actually looks like a pretty good read, I'll have to keep an eye out for it.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


ThomasPaine posted:

Weetman is currently furiously retweeting a bunch of 'actually it was good to blow up the Iranian general' takes, good to see the melts not even bothering to pretend anymore

Blairite has a bloodlust for war. Whodda thunk it?

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

That actually looks like a pretty good read, I'll have to keep an eye out for it.
I haven't read it so can't comment on how good it is (or the translation is), I just happen to know it's a significant book in Iranian culture.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
Labour are asking me to go out and canvass for Sadiq Khan and I really don't know if I can be arsed. He's just such a loving cypher, I can barely be bothered to take enough time out of my day to go put a cross in a box for him, let alone have to persuade hundreds of red people that he's not actually implementing Sharia knife crime.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Jose posted:

So will Boris drag us into this incredibly stupid war?

https://twitter.com/SecPompeo/status/1213064731851939841

can't wait for the Raab speech "hey guys people don't know this but I just found out this guy was actually a big deal in Iran"


also in manufacturing consent news, twitter's locked down that account that was automatically tracking the NYT's pro-war edits to articles

https://twitter.com/touchmybobby/status/1213005974069342209

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Labour are asking me to go out and canvass for Sadiq Khan and I really don't know if I can be arsed. He's just such a loving cypher, I can barely be bothered to take enough time out of my day to go put a cross in a box for him, let alone have to persuade hundreds of red people that he's not actually implementing Sharia knife crime.

As ever, though, the other guy is a psycho who really shouldn't be in charge of the country's capital.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Jose posted:

So will Boris drag us into this incredibly stupid war?
Aside from everything else, it's also a chance to "act independently" of Europe - which probably isn't in a hurry to join in. At least not Germany and France.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
When Boris implements a draft for this war you'll all be sorry that you didn't take my no deal brexit advice of getting fat as hell

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider
https://twitter.com/timhpcc/status/1212748865541197827


Oh look Jess, assisting in smearing the left will not save you from being the target of similar smears and moronic takes after all!

The argument is basically "Jess Phillips' conduct is unbecoming of a woman MP and also I assume she's one of those horrible lefties."

There's also a lot of poo poo in the replies about her appearance. Scruffy and needs to wash her hair, apparently. Bit of a theme.

Here's a particularly :psyduck: one:


https://twitter.com/Nicolac88612909/status/1212803893794627584


https://twitter.com/Jackie___P/status/1212779415488339968


Oh look Jess, trying to use that to say "But I'm smarter and more reasonable than that and can work with others" got turned around against you!


https://twitter.com/spriggs_billy/status/1212682915492044801


Oh look Jess, you're part of the Leftwaffe now!


https://twitter.com/drusincmur/status/1212688624866623490


Oh look Jess, throwing Diane Abbott under the bus doesn't save you from the same fate at the hands of mysogynists!


Well done Jess! :thumbsup:

Braggart fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Jan 3, 2020

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


She made her bed. Now she can lay in it.

Purple Prince posted:

Crispchat warning: the Pringles Rice Fusion flavours are disturbing. Not because they're bad but because they taste exactly like the foods they're replicating.

They were on sale for a bit in November so I bought loads. They're wicked.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
"The Socialist Party and Momentum are active behind Jess Phillips?"
What timeline is this one from?

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


Jose posted:

When Boris implements a draft for this war you'll all be sorry that you didn't take my no deal brexit advice of getting fat as hell

Lol, as if they won't draft tubbos anyway.

I already tweeted about this -

https://twitter.com/mehall/status/1213041045019275264?s=19


No answer from the first minister, shameful.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Which socialist party?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Jose posted:

When Boris implements a draft for this war you'll all be sorry that you didn't take my no deal brexit advice of getting fat as hell

I'd say they wouldn't possibly be stupid enough to do this, given that to the best of my knowledge there is literally no current orthodoxy to suggest that conscripts are even slightly worthwhile soldiers, but... lol

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Conscriptr app managed by Capita.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



hello friends, how is everyone feeling 3 weeks on?

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider
Workfare as an unpaid PMC.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If you're on JSA for more than three weeks you have to provide evidence of at least 5 iranian soldiers killed per week or you face sanctions.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Which socialist party?
Well there's the one that was formerly Militant who are reformists and trots according to the ones who are impossibilists who are unrealistic and disorganized according to the ones who are rapists.

I expect they mean the first one though, but the idea of any of them being in league with Momentum to support the Campaign for Jess Phillips is pretty funny.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

OwlFancier posted:

If you're on JSA for more than three weeks you have to provide evidence of at least 5 iranian soldiers killed per week or you face sanctions.

The BBC reports that there are claims that some workfare PMCs were mistakenly classified as ISIL combatants and sanctioned and blown up, but the Tories say that's an exaggeration at best so everything's okay.

Also when it happens again.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
RLB said her piece on the Solemaini assassination.

https://twitter.com/rlong_bailey/status/1213081036462182401?s=21

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Welcoming the Australian submission to the hosed Up Benefits Olympics :australia:
https://twitter.com/manwithoutatan/status/1212523812681666560

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If your jobcenter has been obliterated by a SCUD missile then you must secure your jobsearch ear necklace to any available structural element, failure to do so will be counted as a failure to attend your weekly review.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Ratjaculation posted:

hello friends, how is everyone feeling 3 weeks on?

I'm doign my best to avoid it, personally.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


gently caress me there are some real lunatics in the comments.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Ratjaculation posted:

hello friends, how is everyone feeling 3 weeks on?

what hemisphere are you in right now mister

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moostaffa
Apr 2, 2008

People always ask me about Toad, It's fantastic. Let me tell you about Toad. I do very well with Toad. I love Toad. No one loves Toad more than me, BELIEVE ME. Toad loves me. I have the best Toad.

baka kaba posted:

also in manufacturing consent news, twitter's locked down that account that was automatically tracking the NYT's pro-war edits to articles

https://twitter.com/touchmybobby/status/1213005974069342209

It must be a coincidence

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