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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jedit posted:

Or just read Puckoon instead.
Someone's pulling to the benefit of Ulster.

e: Leinster has 12 counties.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Jan 3, 2020

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

Someone's pulling to the benefit of Ulster.

That's a mental picture of Ian Paisley I could have done without.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



To the person tweeting Dom Joly please call him Dim Joly

Tia

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Ratjaculation posted:

To the person tweeting Dom Joly please call him Dim Joly

Tia

https://twitter.com/wizardcubes/status/1213111399641210880

Someone did a better joke.

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

Ratjaculation posted:

To the person tweeting Dom Joly please call him Dim Joly

Tia

I need other people to be more reasoned and funny than me, I just don’t have that level of wit.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Quite a lot of water-damage reductions too.

but you could have porpoises on the tills

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

HJB posted:

I read it your way originally but quite clearly hundreds didn't so I second-guessed myself.

It felt very 'lol poverty how quaint' from people entirely out of touch with the reality of it, and after the labour holocaust joke I'm extremely done with giving them the benefit of the doubt. In any case, however it was intended it's in super bad taste.

Isomermaid
Dec 3, 2019

Swish swish, like a fish
The the state of the whole HIGNFY, Private Eye, gently caress it, even latter era Python sneering type of satire is woeful to behold, getting less funny, more dated, and a shitload less USEFUL than it used to be, and it's entirely down to loving pickled boomer-to-gen-x sensibilities that have failed to adapt to the times.

Back in the day, the prevailing opinion of authority figures was that they were all Very Important and Serious, and they traded a lot on people Taking Them Seriously. And the way you satirise that is to make them look silly, to sneer cynically, to irreverently go "you're nothing special" in creative ways and get people to see them as ridiculous.

It's STILL important to take people on who think they're above everyone else, but this poo poo isn't landing because they haven't updated their jokes from this cynical sneering. Partly because it's easy to just take anything anybody says and go "this person said this, so much for that, hur hur hur". But politicians now, yeah you still get the odd one stamping their foot and demanding "take me seriously" but most of them don't care one way or another, they either roll with the punches or ignore because they're not trading on the same kind of deference, in fact if they're like Boris they're actively courting the "don't take me seriously" jokes, and it's no wonder they love him on HIGNFY because they get to do a lot of their A1 super-effective sneering without noticing that they're *actively empowering him*

Then, there's the fact that if they're not Tory-sympathetic they are at least woefully liberal and their choice of targets reflects that, you just end up with this grinding cynical trudge where there's no hope, nothing is taken seriously and that again leaves the door wide open for the status quo to go effectively unchallenged and roll on forever.

We could REALLY do with some meaningful satire that challenges the actual power structures that meaningfully effect people's lives in this country but it's not going to happen until the Hislops and the Cleeses stop chuckling from the sidelines and going "ehh loony lefties, and the tories they're all the same, amirite?"

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

They also, critically, can't help but apply it at anything that purports to be significant, including like, the actual significant stuff. No capability to make a value judgement, just blind contrarianism, more or less exactly like the press.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Isomermaid posted:

The the state of the whole HIGNFY, Private Eye, gently caress it, even latter era Python sneering type of satire is woeful to behold, getting less funny, more dated, and a shitload less USEFUL than it used to be, and it's entirely down to loving pickled boomer-to-gen-x sensibilities that have failed to adapt to the times.

Back in the day, the prevailing opinion of authority figures was that they were all Very Important and Serious, and they traded a lot on people Taking Them Seriously. And the way you satirise that is to make them look silly, to sneer cynically, to irreverently go "you're nothing special" in creative ways and get people to see them as ridiculous.

It's STILL important to take people on who think they're above everyone else, but this poo poo isn't landing because they haven't updated their jokes from this cynical sneering. Partly because it's easy to just take anything anybody says and go "this person said this, so much for that, hur hur hur". But politicians now, yeah you still get the odd one stamping their foot and demanding "take me seriously" but most of them don't care one way or another, they either roll with the punches or ignore because they're not trading on the same kind of deference, in fact if they're like Boris they're actively courting the "don't take me seriously" jokes, and it's no wonder they love him on HIGNFY because they get to do a lot of their A1 super-effective sneering without noticing that they're *actively empowering him*

Then, there's the fact that if they're not Tory-sympathetic they are at least woefully liberal and their choice of targets reflects that, you just end up with this grinding cynical trudge where there's no hope, nothing is taken seriously and that again leaves the door wide open for the status quo to go effectively unchallenged and roll on forever.

We could REALLY do with some meaningful satire that challenges the actual power structures that meaningfully effect people's lives in this country but it's not going to happen until the Hislops and the Cleeses stop chuckling from the sidelines and going "ehh loony lefties, and the tories they're all the same, amirite?"

It's (or it looks like it is) very, very difficult to maintain a meaningfully satirical attitude in the face of modern success, even if someone does manage to actually acheieve modern success whilst being meaningfully satirical, which is pretty unlikely given how little it's in the interests of commissioning editors to comission actual satire.

Successful people get rich and hang out with rich people and become progressively more insulated from the real world and more prone to taking liberal attitudes because they are insulated from the consequences of the things they're mocking.

It's really, really difficult to stay sane when you're a celebrity, basically.

I've seen it happen so many times over the past 20 years or so and it's always disappointing. People stop punching up, because punching up loses them work, then they stop punching at all and just start making lukewarm quips, then they start punching down because it makes them popular, or because "balance" is imposed on them.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.
https://twitter.com/_Snape_/status/1212988082166718465
Harry Potter delenda est.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Isomermaid posted:

The the state of the whole HIGNFY, Private Eye, gently caress it, even latter era Python sneering type of satire is woeful to behold, getting less funny, more dated, and a shitload less USEFUL than it used to be, and it's entirely down to loving pickled boomer-to-gen-x sensibilities that have failed to adapt to the times.

Back in the day, the prevailing opinion of authority figures was that they were all Very Important and Serious, and they traded a lot on people Taking Them Seriously. And the way you satirise that is to make them look silly, to sneer cynically, to irreverently go "you're nothing special" in creative ways and get people to see them as ridiculous.

It's STILL important to take people on who think they're above everyone else, but this poo poo isn't landing because they haven't updated their jokes from this cynical sneering. Partly because it's easy to just take anything anybody says and go "this person said this, so much for that, hur hur hur". But politicians now, yeah you still get the odd one stamping their foot and demanding "take me seriously" but most of them don't care one way or another, they either roll with the punches or ignore because they're not trading on the same kind of deference, in fact if they're like Boris they're actively courting the "don't take me seriously" jokes, and it's no wonder they love him on HIGNFY because they get to do a lot of their A1 super-effective sneering without noticing that they're *actively empowering him*

Then, there's the fact that if they're not Tory-sympathetic they are at least woefully liberal and their choice of targets reflects that, you just end up with this grinding cynical trudge where there's no hope, nothing is taken seriously and that again leaves the door wide open for the status quo to go effectively unchallenged and roll on forever.

We could REALLY do with some meaningful satire that challenges the actual power structures that meaningfully effect people's lives in this country but it's not going to happen until the Hislops and the Cleeses stop chuckling from the sidelines and going "ehh loony lefties, and the tories they're all the same, amirite?"

If you've never seen the John Cleese advert for the Liberal/SDP Alliance, don't watch it.

SpaceCommie
Oct 2, 2008

I'm escaping to the one place that hasn't been corrupted by Capitalism ...

SPACE!



Lotta people in this thread worried about the draft forgetting this line from the internationale.


Eugène Pottier posted:

No more deluded by reaction,
On tyrants only we'll make war!
The soldiers too will take strike action,
They'll break ranks and fight no more!
And if those cannibals keep trying,
To sacrifice us to their pride,
They soon shall hear the bullets flying,
We'll shoot the generals on our own side.

Arming us makes this much easier :colbert:

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


My first GP appointment in 18 years was to find out I have a hernia. :eng99: I've been able to maintain a happy veneer of indestructibility for so long, drat it. There will probably be a long rear end wait for surgery, in the doctor's words "because of the... (long pause)... political situation".

Christ I wish tory voters would just kill themselves. If they want to live in endless misery then that's their problem. I fail to see why it should be mine.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

They want that warm sense of contentment that comes from knowing that everyone else is miserable too, and that this is patriotic or something.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

SpaceCommie posted:

Lotta people in this thread worried about the draft forgetting this line from the internationale.


Arming us makes this much easier :colbert:

You assume any conscript would ever be in shooting distance of a general with a loaded weapon.

Bold.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


I do like the rail maintenance course I'm on but i wish the guy teaching wasn't so willing to use 'gay' as an insult.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

SpaceCommie posted:

Lotta people in this thread worried about the draft forgetting this line from the internationale.


Arming us makes this much easier :colbert:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiYuq6Ac3a0

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

bessantj posted:

I do like the rail maintenance course I'm on but i wish the guy teaching wasn't so willing to use 'gay' as an insult.

I'm interpreting that as the pejorative use of gay being part of the syllabus. Like "this switch is being well gay and you have to fix it"

IrvingWashington
Dec 9, 2007

Shabbat Shalom
Clapping Larry


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bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


OwlFancier posted:

I'm interpreting that as the pejorative use of gay being part of the syllabus. Like "this switch is being well gay and you have to fix it"

He might use it like that at some point. Yesterday someone didn't do a very good job and he pointed to what they had done and said "that was loving gay."

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

bessantj posted:

He might use it like that at some point. Yesterday someone didn't do a very good job and he pointed to what they had done and said "that was loving gay."

Is your instructor like twelve or something?

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

You better be using the Gregory method for surplus allocation!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

I'm interpreting that as the pejorative use of gay being part of the syllabus. Like "this switch is being well gay and you have to fix it"
The Giles Coren Rail Maintenance Course.

Skip the one on keeping kids off the tracks.

Undead Hippo
Jun 2, 2013

IrvingWashington posted:



:siren: UKMT Solidarity & Support Fund Voting :siren:

Hi folks, voting for membership of the UKMT Solidarity and Support Fund committee opens shortly (like in half an hour)!

But I use this thread to give me nuanced and informed takes on who to vote for between ostensibly ideologically similar individuals. This is reversing the whole dynamic, and I won't stand for it.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


OwlFancier posted:

Is your instructor like twelve or something?

Other end, 55 but very 'blokey' after years spent in manual labour jobs with the same type of people.

IrvingWashington
Dec 9, 2007

Shabbat Shalom
Clapping Larry

Undead Hippo posted:

But I use this thread to give me nuanced and informed takes on who to vote for between ostensibly ideologically similar individuals. This is reversing the whole dynamic, and I won't stand for it.

It's entirely anonymous so you can wait for the results to make your mind up if you like (assuming everyone doesn't also do the same)

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

bessantj posted:

He might use it like that at some point. Yesterday someone didn't do a very good job and he pointed to what they had done and said "that was loving gay."

Give him lovely feedback for being a lovely person. If you feel like being nice, ask him politely to refrain first, then leave him lovely feedback when he doesn't.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


OwlFancier posted:

They want that warm sense of contentment that comes from knowing that everyone else is miserable too, and that this is patriotic or something.

The important thing is that statistically they're old, so they're more likely to be killed by their voting decisions, and from being pork faced wankers with insanely high blood pressure.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


thespaceinvader posted:

Give him lovely feedback for being a lovely person. If you feel like being nice, ask him politely to refrain first, then leave him lovely feedback when he doesn't.

I am thinking of doing that though I'm not sure of how much good it will do. I spoke to a guy who has the same teacher on a different cause and is gay and he says he isn't bothered with it and seems to be getting on well with the course and the teacher. It still irks me when he uses gay the way he does though.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

The important thing is that statistically they're old, so they're more likely to be killed by their voting decisions, and from being pork faced wankers with insanely high blood pressure.

On the other hand, presumably they got this far, despite having judgement inverselty proportional to blood pressure, which means they're probably naturally resistant to dying.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Jessflaps standing official:

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1213174057912455168?s=20

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
The Gobshite express

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004



Is she the one who said she told Diane Abbot to "gently caress off" and it turned out to be a lie?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

That's her yep. Spent the last several years doing little but whinge about the leadership and the party for self promotion. Fan of jacob rees mogg.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/bbcworldservice/status/1213029763931082752

:iiam:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
It was never proven to be a lie, but that's likely only because Diane gets so much abuse from stupid lovely pricks that she doesn't memorize every time some edgy chancer does it.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


The BBC really is a linguistic atrocity.

Like if you read it too much you'd just lose all ability to say anything meaningful, I wonder if this is what orwell was on about with newspeak.

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

The BBC really is a linguistic atrocity.

Like if you read it too much you'd just lose all ability to say anything meaningful, I wonder if this is what orwell was on about with newspeak.

Talking about the BBC and linguistics made me remember the BBC Pidgin service they started a couple of years ago.

https://twitter.com/bbcnewspidgin/status/1212756136006504448

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Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

"As a working class who grew up on council pop, I find it shameful that members of my own party voted against the Tory 'Kill the Poor Act 2020'. It's bad that the Tories do want to kill the poors, but as I discussed in conversation with my BFF Jacko Moggs, we really should know our place as social inferiors. Also Babs."

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