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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Waiting a year or two also looks bad to the domestic constituency who are demanding revenge. You can't just play the long game as if you're harboring a personal grudge when the US just merked your greatest national hero. True, we'll see 
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Waiting a year or two also looks bad to the domestic constituency who are demanding revenge. You can't just play the long game as if you're harboring a personal grudge when the US just merked your greatest national hero. Exactly. As Dolan keeps pointing out everyone has constituents that have to be kept on board. And they are all mad as hell now.
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the question isn't "do americans support mass murder in the middle east regardless of the caucus belli or lack thereof" it's "can people who live under the Great Satan regime ever really say they don't support mass murder in the middle east"
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https://twitter.com/hxhassan/status/1213241251337850882?s=20 the US excuse for bombing these people is that the US labeled them terrorists 6 hours ago edit: or maybe not??? Atrocious Joe has issued a correction as of 00:46 on Jan 4, 2020 |
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I can't even go on facebook or I'm gonna end up telling some boomer retiree that I want to chop their head off with a broadsword for saying poo poo like "I hope civilized people are restored to power there." bitch I'll show you some loving civilization
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genericnick posted:Exactly. As Dolan keeps pointing out everyone has constituents that have to be kept on board. And they are all mad as hell now. yeah americans repeatedly fail to recognize nationalism and agency in any non-american place. imagine thinking you are going to intimidate people when you blow their poo poo up instead of pissing them off. if people blow our poo poo up, they get mad - but i guess the iranians are inhuman space aliens??
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/hxhassan/status/1213241251337850882?s=20 Were these seriously the same guys they labeled earlier today?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I can't even go on facebook or I'm gonna end up telling some boomer retiree that I want to chop their head off with a broadsword for saying poo poo like "I hope civilized people are restored to power there." bitch I'll show you some loving civilization Cool fantasy
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Brogeoisie posted:Were these seriously the same guys they labeled earlier today? Wow it's the poo poo from the Bush years now too The monsters are here in full force, every evil is out to play
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Sinteres posted:Cool fantasy 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/03/donald-trump-just-tripped-up-on-the-air-over-foreign-policy-again-and-again/ hey remember when never trump republicans tried to sink trump over not knowing who Suleimani was in September 2015 who’s laughing now Hewitt 
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I don't think it's rude, I just think it's sad that your fantasy is about how you want to unsheathe your posting katana on people on fb but oops you'd get in trouble so no.
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Sinteres posted:I don't think it's rude, I just think it's sad that you want to unsheathe your posting katana on people on fb. yeah it’s weird that people have any strong feelings about anything at all, and would express those feelings. unlike you, the Poster Above It All
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Brogeoisie posted:Were these seriously the same guys they labeled earlier today? i think it just might be that PMU labeled today announcing the deaths of a different militia? I may be mistaken
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Sinteres posted:I don't think it's rude, I just think it's sad that your fantasy is about how you want to unsheathe your posting katana on people on fb but oops you'd get in trouble so no. Do you even have a single iota of hatred in your entire body?
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this is all crazy but in a weird sort of way i'm impressed the neocons are really just rolling the dice on "what if we really did just kill everyone we didn't like" its loving wild
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Do you even have a single iota of hatred in your entire body? Yeah I hate this guy because he's absolutely going to try throwing the election to Trump. https://twitter.com/tperry518/status/1213212105249296384
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The more the media keeps framing these attacks in terms of "Iran-backed militias," the less people understand that these are Iraqi government allies who are incorporated into their military structure. It's like bombing the national guard.Sinteres posted:Yeah I hate this guy because he's absolutely going to try throwing the election to Trump. I don't believe you.
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I’m sure he was being completely serious about using a broadsword.
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sinteres wants to hug and kiss michael bloomberg IMO
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freckle posted:sinteres wants to hug and kiss michael bloomberg IMO N-no, they're onto me! Edit: This is a dumb derail, so I'm going to back off for a bit. gently caress Trump and US foreign policy.
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sinteres, a person completely lacking in righteous energy and poster’s honor. useless in the warfare we engage in every day on the astral plane. while i’m telling old republicans about how decades of lead poisoning ruined their brains, sinteres is hiding behind the discredited notion of civility. shameful and pathetic.
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Sinteres posted:I don't think it's rude, I just think it's sad that your fantasy is about how you want to unsheathe your posting katana on people on fb but oops you'd get in trouble so no. Obviously we want to behead people IRL, not on Facebook - that's just where you pick your targets.
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Sinteres posted:N-no, they're onto me! im going to need a “death to america” at the very least from you, here and now
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THS posted:im going to need a “death to america” at the very least from you, here and now It was tempting.
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Sinteres posted:gently caress Trump and US foreign policy This is ok
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so the gap between people being designated terrorists and then being murdered is now only a few hours. but the thing is, it takes several hours at absolute minimum to put together an airstrike. you have to stage the aircraft and fuel the aircraft and put the missiles on it and put together a flight plan and blah blah blah, all sorts of poo poo. so what that means is that the strike had to have been planned before the targets were actually legally considered terrorists, which means the US first decided to kill them and then manufactured a justification for it ex post facto. not like they haven't done that before but it's still loving upsetting
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Taintrunner posted:
lol this fraud was the ISIS expert on cnn
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Sinteres posted:Ali was his son through marriage, so thanks for agreeing with me. Doesn’t work that way, otherwise Zaid would be his son too. Patrilenial descent isn’t an Arab tradition anyway, if Islam were a tribe then either Abu Bakr would inherit because he’s his cousin and thus the next sheik, or he was elected, and thus the next sheik.
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Taintrunner posted:
pssh i fight 4-5 wars on my dick on a daily basis
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Mister Bates posted:so the gap between people being designated terrorists and then being murdered is now only a few hours. during the Vietnam War, the US would have planes flying over Cambodia, observing and spotting potential targets for bombers thing is, there was a Rules of Engagement restriction on having these planes be used to guide bombing runs, because it might be considered an unwarranted escalation to use planes in another country to act as targeteers for Vietnam-bound sorties so, these planes would instead broadcast back to a land-based station in Vietnam, then the message would be relayed to another aircraft flying over the Gulf of Tonkin and the instructions provided to the planes would be calibrated to accurately reflect the time delay in relaying the information from the plane over Cambodia, to the US land base, to the plane over the Gulf, to the bomber setting up a legal structure for making warmaking more "procedural" and "humane" does not work, because all it does it give people an incentive to create a workaround to let them bomb whoever it is they want to anyway
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1994 Toyota Celica posted:there's a wonderful phrase coined by limousine lib historian Barbara Tuchmann to describe how Austria-Hungary stumbled into the first world war: "the bellicose frivolity of senile empires."
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