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http://emergency.vic.gov.au/ currently has four "evacuate immediately if possible" warnings and fourteen "It's too late to evacuate" warnings, the situation is extremely hosed The cold front is currently sweeping through all those areas and bringing some extreme lightning storms which is very very bad news because those gale force winds from a new direction will open up a bunch of new & bigger fire fronts and all that lightning will create a whole bunch more fires
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Got paid on Thursday so I've doubled my donation, a further $50, this time to the Bushfire Appeal via the Carlton Football Club. Also, it hit 48C in Penrith (western-most syndey suburbs) today, along with the hottest temp ever recorded in Canberra (44C). It isn't even the hot part of summer yet for South East Australia, we might hit 50c in a capital city in 3-5 weeks when the hot part of summer rolls around. Oh, and the Hume Freeway is closed at Euroa, so now coastal and inland route between Melbourne and Sydney are closed due to fires.
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With all these “too late to evacuate” warnings and alerts going on, what are people supposed to do? What does shelter in place actually mean? Is the expectation that folks just stay in their homes and hope it doesn’t burn down around them, or do people have some kind of fire shelters built on their properties or something ?
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Jan 4, 2020 06:47
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Raged posted:That smug fucker is so proud of himself now that he is starting to give the agencies what they have been asking for since this started months ago. Prosperity gospel Jesus saves those who are already wealthy enough to save themselves.
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Agrikk posted:With all these “too late to evacuate” warnings and alerts going on, what are people supposed to do? Here's what you can do.
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We've always kinda joked that "hey at least we will run out of forest eventually" here in BC, but it wouldn't actually work that way without everything being very, very broken. Looks like you guys are actually attempting the "burn everything that can possibly be burned" strategy, so props for getting a jump on that poo poo. Is the NSW fire service the best place to toss some donations or is there something more needful right now?
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Are storm cellers/basements not a thing there? I live in tornado alley and have a safe room, lots just have a cellars. You could ride out a fire in that right? Jesus the thought
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Burt Sexual posted:Are storm cellers/basements not a thing there? I live in tornado alley and have a safe room, lots just have a cellars. You could ride out a fire in that right? Jesus the thought Nope. There were some places trying to market fire proof bunkers after Black Saturday, but I think it was found that people could suffocate in them
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Nobody has a basement in Australia, except serial killers or people with vast wine cellars.
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Bureau of Meteorology says the wind gusts in the Omeo region might get up to 125km/h due to the weather that is being generated by the fires  Burt Sexual posted:Are storm cellers/basements not a thing there? Nope, hardly ever
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Burt Sexual posted:Are storm cellers/basements not a thing there? I live in tornado alley and have a safe room, lots just have a cellars. You could ride out a fire in that right? Jesus the thought No we don't really have basements here. In fact an iconic house design of Australia is called The Queenslander and is built on stilts and is empty underneath.
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Sometimes people just get really creative with sheltering "I ran to my ute but my garden was already on fire, the driveway was on fire, the road was on fire so I couldn't evacuate," Mr Harrison told the ABC. With nowhere to go and no firefighters to help, the professional potter hid inside a makeshift shelter made out of fireproof ceramic fibres as the flames approached. "The day before I had actually built myself a small kiln down the back — a coffin-sized kiln — just big enough for me to crawl inside," he recalled while fighting back tears. "I was in there for half an hour while the firestorm went over. It was huge, just glowing orange-red everywhere. Just scary. I was terrified." He admits he could have died. "I could have if I hadn't thought about plan B. In that little kiln enclosure I made, I had a fire extinguisher, a bucket of water, a drinking water bottle and a fire blanket."
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Would a basement really be that much help? I would assume the house would just catch fire and collapse into the basement.
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TOOT BOOT posted:Would a basement really be that much help? I would assume the house would just catch fire and collapse into the basement. Or as the fire passes over you it sucks the air straight from the cellar and you choke to death.
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You Am I posted:Nope. There were some places trying to market fire proof bunkers after Black Saturday, but I think it was found that people could suffocate in them So now we’re looking at * safe room $20k * ventilations...nm * scuba air tanks that can explode in high heat situations... I’m out of options here. It’s just gtfo early, pack your priceless poo poo in a go bag for long term storage and throw it in the truck on your way out. poo poo sucks
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after black saturday people in the bush built heaps of specially made fire bunkers. they have to be built properly and signed off by a surveyor though or you'll just cook/ suffocate inside
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I am really proud of all the goons who donated. you guys fuckin rule
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Gridlocked posted:Or as the fire passes over you it sucks the air straight from the cellar and you choke to death. Possibly this? Mine is concrete on all sides and top though. It’s ts only a half hour right? Idk how long 4 people survive in a box that’s getting air sucked out. Tornadoes are different
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Seems like after months of fires the news in the US must be covering the fires. I have had a ton of phone calls and messages from family and friends in the US today. I have been telling them shits hosed for ages, but I guess people need to see it on Fox news to believe it. I am now seeing normally non-political people on Facebook saying we need to eat the rich/hang politicians which is a good sign.
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A bunker built in accordance with the national construction code is fine, but its when people just bury a shipping container or run a ladder down into an old septic tank where people gently caress themselves up. I heard about a bloke a few years ago who climbed into a "bunker" that was just a buried water tank and just cooked like a lamb roast.
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Gridlocked posted:...and is built on stilts and is empty underneath. That's just an open air basement!  Either way not much use in a fire. Apparently good in light flooding thought!
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Burt Sexual posted:Are storm cellers/basements not a thing there? I live in tornado alley and have a safe room, lots just have a cellars. You could ride out a fire in that right? Jesus the thought You want it airtight so fire can't get in, but also people need to breathe, and you don't want a breathing tube which fire can jump down and join you in your bunker. Bet we start investing more in the technology now though! Efwayb
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Jan 4, 2020 07:17
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Omfg, loving scomo just made an ad with an inspirational backing track about how much he's doing. Hope loving coldplay sue him for knocking off their music.
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Burt Sexual posted:So now we’re looking at Well apparently as a last resort aluminum fire blankets/shelter work: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/05/fire-shelters/371421/ Never want to be in a position to test that out though. Probably also really need to know what your doing to use it properly.
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Burt Sexual posted:So now we’re looking at Capsize your rowing boat in your pool and breath under it for 30 minutes or so... Or if you're American use those 100 quart Igloo coolers. One for each family member. Turrurrurrurrrrrrr fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Jan 4, 2020 |
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The end is nigh:
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gently caress scomo gently caress Murdoch and double gently caress you Rick Wiles I tried to donate to the local fire service down at my sisters place but had to settle for the next town over, I forgot they had to close their doors last year because they lost their funding 
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:The end is nigh: For the Americans imagine a Waffle House closing.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:The end is nigh: a national tragedy
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:The end is nigh: gently caress. First onions under and now this.
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The thing is that the bbq fire pit is really big and really open... and we're the meat.
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ili posted:gently caress. First onions under and now this. i forgot about this and now i'm mad all over again!
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The national power grid has been broken up. New South Wales will be facing loadshedding/rolling brownouts tonight. Victoria and New South Wales are no longer connected to eachother due to fires impacting the high voltage transmission lines near the Kosciuszko National Park. From the Guardian Liveblog: https://www.theguardian.com/austral...f087e8308e68552 quote:Obviously a disaster of this magnitude affects vital infrastructure. TransGrid says the power grid has been impacted. Paul Italiano, the chief executive of TransGrid (these guys operate the high voltage transmission network in the state) has just told the ABC they are experiencing fire damage to assets around the Kosciuszko National Park. “We’ve had to separate the two states and it is no longer operating as a single national electricity market and that has compromised the availability of energy to New South Wales”.
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Pink is donating half a million dollars "directly to the local fire services". Good on her. Edit: plus tweeting out the URLs to donate. https://twitter.com/Pink/status/1213350834672586752?s=19 Memento fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Jan 4, 2020 |
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drunkill posted:The national power grid has been broken up. New South Wales will be facing loadshedding/rolling brownouts tonight. This link won't be useful for too long because I think I can only link to live data, but yeah, NSW spot prices have hit the cap, their supply is only about 75% of what's needed right now. https://aemo.com.au/Electricity/National-Electricity-Market-NEM/Data-dashboard#price-demand fakeedit: ah, someone already screenshotted an example https://twitter.com/FadAstra/status/1213350760559214592
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Mallacoota today: https://twitter.com/smh/status/1213351361594548224 Tathra right now, 6pm in the afternoon: https://twitter.com/PhilWilliamsABC/status/1213358374814797824
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Agrikk posted:With all these “too late to evacuate” warnings and alerts going on, what are people supposed to do? People leaving at the last minute place themselves in extreme danger. They roast to death in their cars. Really that message isn’t saying that staying home is safe, it’s saying that leaving is no longer an option.
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Memento posted:Pink is donating half a million dollars "directly to the local fire services". Good on her. hell yeah that's awesome. 32m+ followers although right now it seems like an American pop singer gives more of a poo poo than our prime minister and that's a little sad
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A warning for those that maybe see the Prime Ministers tweet/fb post or whatever, do not donate through that, none of it will go to fire fighters, but to the coalition member fund. https://twitter.com/matttburke/status/1213359418613489666?s=19
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