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Dammerung posted:North Korea nuking an American base would put us pretty far past crisis mode with them. I'm just saying that Trump only seems to order strikes whenever an American is killed or an asset is destroyed
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terrorist ambulance posted:I know letting these people upset you is losing, but gently caress am I triggered by the goddamn people laughing in this video The laughing is sycophantic madness.
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I’m not going to say it can’t happen, but I’ve followed Mueller, NK, impeachment, and the U.K. election on these forums (and got caught up in the swell for each one), and this place is a huge echo chamber for the most extreme outcome that never actually happens (Mueller brings down Trump & Pence and R establishment, NK engages Japan, Trump gets impeached, and Labour crushes in the U.K. election) so just be aware if you are forming your thoughts and opinions solely based on these threads.
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reality is usually more boring because everyone involved is corrupt, yes
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Crazyweasel posted:I’m not going to say it can’t happen, but I’ve followed Mueller, NK, impeachment, and the U.K. election on these forums (and got caught up in the swell for each one), and this place is a huge echo chamber for the most extreme outcome that never actually happens (Mueller brings down Trump & Pence and R establishment, NK engages Japan, Trump gets impeached, and Labour crushes in the U.K. election) so just be aware if you are forming your thoughts and opinions solely based on these threads. very true, but i am hoping we are wrong about iran.
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Crazyweasel posted:I’m not going to say it can’t happen, but I’ve followed Mueller, NK, impeachment, and the U.K. election on these forums (and got caught up in the swell for each one), and this place is a huge echo chamber for the most extreme outcome that never actually happens (Mueller brings down Trump & Pence and R establishment, NK engages Japan, Trump gets impeached, and Labour crushes in the U.K. election) so just be aware if you are forming your thoughts and opinions solely based on these threads. 
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so you've got what, a third of the population believing they're the only real Americans and they define what's patriotism and what it is to be an American and everyone else is an enemy? Cool cool cool can't see any issues there irrespective of who's in power.
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olylifter posted:so you've got what, a third of the population believing they're the only real Americans and they define what's patriotism and what it is to be an American and everyone else is an enemy?
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Crazyweasel posted:I’m not going to say it can’t happen, but I’ve followed Mueller, NK, impeachment, and the U.K. election on these forums (and got caught up in the swell for each one), and this place is a huge echo chamber for the most extreme outcome that never actually happens (Mueller brings down Trump & Pence and R establishment, NK engages Japan, Trump gets impeached, and Labour crushes in the U.K. election) so just be aware if you are forming your thoughts and opinions solely based on these threads. Your right he didn't get impeached
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Crazyweasel posted:I’m not going to say it can’t happen, but I’ve followed Mueller, NK, impeachment, and the U.K. election on these forums (and got caught up in the swell for each one), and this place is a huge echo chamber for the most extreme outcome that never actually happens (Mueller brings down Trump & Pence and R establishment, NK engages Japan, Trump gets impeached, and Labour crushes in the U.K. election) so just be aware if you are forming your thoughts and opinions solely based on these threads. there isn't really any online community that isn't either gargling the trump cock or predicting his immediate collapse for whatever the weekly scandal is D&D just happens to be mostly white dudes either living in their mom's basement, maybe in tech; who are also very into leftism (or ron paul back in the day, I think I recall a big strand of chomsky anarcho-syndicalists also) so it's not representative of the public at all much like all the other websites but people sometimes source their points so it's still one of the best platforms i've found
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Lemming posted:Your right he didn't get impeached I was quoted too much to sneak in the “removed from office” edit
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The content presented in these twits would be extremely useful and maybe even transferable if either were backed up by sources (I'm not saying they're lying, but others will).
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I'm deep in the shitlands and I passed an anti-war protest today. To those eight people standing on that corner in the middle of hostile territory, I salute you and would have been inclined to stop and join in if it wasn't for the fact that I had a three hour drive ahead of me.
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Crazyweasel posted:I was quoted too much to sneak in the “removed from office” edit Ok but literally nobody here thought that impeachment would lead to him getting removed from office
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Jan 5, 2020 02:42
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There is no way this isn't calculated to provoke full-scale war, like people have been like "Trump is obviously just dumb," but its literally impossible to believe that this nature of threat won't result in a violent response and instead the threatened will meekly back down. No person in the world is THAT stupid.
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Sanguinia posted:There is no way this isn't calculated to provoke full-scale war, like people have been like "Trump is obviously just dumb," but its literally impossible to believe that this nature of threat won't result in a violent response and instead the threatened will meekly back down. No person in the world is THAT stupid. trump is loving eldrich when it comes to dumb.
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Sanguinia posted:There is no way this isn't calculated to provoke full-scale war, like people have been like "Trump is obviously just dumb," but its literally impossible to believe that this nature of threat won't result in a violent response and instead the threatened will meekly back down. No person in the world is THAT stupid. We'll know when Trump threatens to sue Iran.
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Crazyweasel posted:I’m not going to say it can’t happen, but I’ve followed Mueller, NK, impeachment, and the U.K. election on these forums (and got caught up in the swell for each one), and this place is a huge echo chamber for the most extreme outcome that never actually happens (Mueller brings down Trump & Pence and R establishment, NK engages Japan, Trump gets impeached, and Labour crushes in the U.K. election) so just be aware if you are forming your thoughts and opinions solely based on these threads. Did you skip the midterms?
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Sanguinia posted:There is no way this isn't calculated to provoke full-scale war, like people have been like "Trump is obviously just dumb," but its literally impossible to believe that this nature of threat won't result in a violent response and instead the threatened will meekly back down. No person in the world is THAT stupid. I don't know about that. Trump is just dumb, but he's also a cruel bully, massive racist, and recklessly impulsive. Trump really could buy into the idea that Iran will cower ("like a dog!") in the face of his raw masculinity and intimidation. Obviously there are plenty of people around him who like war with Iran but what we're hearing about the "planning" of this escalation is that there is no plan. Dapper_Swindler posted:trump is loving eldrich when it comes to dumb. I've posted in this forum before that contemplating the Trump presidency is as close to Lovecraftian horror as you can get in this world.
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Sanguinia posted:There is no way this isn't calculated to provoke full-scale war, like people have been like "Trump is obviously just dumb," but its literally impossible to believe that this nature of threat won't result in a violent response and instead the threatened will meekly back down. No person in the world is THAT stupid. Watch him speak. Watch him convince himself of his own lie which he made up not ten seconds ago. Yes he is indeed that stupid.
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Crossposting from the ME thread:Darth Walrus posted:Sheldon Adelson literally wants to nuke Iran, and Pompeo believes in the Rapture. They want this. This is one of the scarier aspects of this, Pompeo is a true believer evangelical that wants Armageddon to happen so he can be raptured.
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Crazyweasel posted:I’m not going to say it can’t happen, but I’ve followed Mueller, NK, impeachment, and the U.K. election on these forums (and got caught up in the swell for each one), and this place is a huge echo chamber for the most extreme outcome that never actually happens (Mueller brings down Trump & Pence and R establishment, NK engages Japan, Trump gets impeached, and Labour crushes in the U.K. election) so just be aware if you are forming your thoughts and opinions solely based on these threads. Honestly either you are trolling or you have insanely bad reading skills. Nobody here has every claimed Trump would get impeached/removed by the Senate. Most people predicted exactly what would happen with Mueller where he pointed out a bunch of crimes but expected someone else to do the prosecution. Perhaps instead of blindly calling this an echo chamber you actually pay attention to what people are saying instead of assuming every one of the dozens of people in the thread are some singular blob that you are smarter then.
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RandomBlue posted:Crossposting from the ME thread: The republican party is literally a death cult.
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Openly Threatening a War Crime, Trump Says US Prepared to Strike '52 Iranian Sites' commondreams.org/January 04, 2020 "Observers were quick to point out that the deliberate destruction of cultural sites is a war crime under international law." .... '"The U.S. has waged a campaign of terror against Iraq and Iran for more than six decades. Coups, invasions, bombings, sanctions, support for despots and death squads," wrote The Intercept's Jeremy Scahill in response to the president's tirade. "Trump is now broadcasting his intent to commit more war crimes. None of this is happening in a history-free vacuum."' .... '"Trump was never fit to be president—amid a crisis of his own creation he is openly threatening war crimes against the Iranian people," tweeted Ryan Costello, policy director at the National Iranian American Council. "Not only does Congress need to halt this march to war and atrocity, they need to get him out of office."' Mar-a-Lago Guests and Israel Had More Prior Knowledge of Strike on Soleimani Than Democratic Leaders rollingstone.com/January 4, 2020 "Trump was dropping hints to guests at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida days before the attack, telling them to expect something “big” very “soon” in Iraq" Sanders, Khanna introduce legislation to block funding for a war with Iran thehill.com/01/03/20 'Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.) on Friday introduced legislation that would block funding for any offensive military force in or against Iran without prior congressional authorization. The legislation from the lawmakers, two of the most progressive members of their respective chambers, came after the U.S. launched an airstrike in Baghdad that killed Qassem Soleimani, Iran’s top general. The attack, and Tehran’s vows of retaliation, sparked fears that the already combustible situation in the Middle East could lead to a war between the U.S. and Iran. “Today, we are seeing a dangerous escalation that brings us closer to another disastrous war in the Middle East," the lawmakers said in a statement. "A war with Iran could cost countless lives and trillions more dollars and lead to even more deaths, more conflict, more displacement in that already highly volatile region of the world. “At a time when we face the urgent need to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure, to build the housing we desperately need, and to address the existential crisis of climate change, we as a nation must get our priorities right,” they added. “We must invest in the needs of the American people, not spend trillions more on endless wars.” The legislation to restrict funds for military action against Iran was passed last year in the House but was later stripped from the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) adopted by Congress last month.' US arms companies see stocks soar after Soleimani assassination as analysts predict Iran conflict independent.co.uk/9 hours ago "Major US arms companies have seen their stock prices jump following the Trump administration’s assassination of Iranian military commander Qassem Soleimani." .... Sorry, Trump. Most Americans don’t like you. washingtonpost.com/Jan. 2, 2020 "It is easy to overstate the support President Trump has for his policies and conspiracy theories. His approval remains in the low-40s, but the percentage of Americans who buy into his positions and assertions is remarkably small. Trump and Fox News have their true believers, but beyond that minority of the population, the large majority of Americans understand he often spews nonsense or out-and-out lies. And, to boot, they really do not like him. The latest Economist/YouGov national poll is instructive. When it comes to Russia, despite Trump’s bromance with President Vladimir Putin, only 14 percent consider Russia to be an ally or friendly; 32 percent say it is unfriendly, in addition to 34 percent who consider it an enemy. Trump may be confused about who interfered in the 2016 election, but the public is not. By a 50 percent-to-28 percent margin, Americans say Russia interfered in our election. Unlike Trump, who is convinced Ukraine meddled in our election, only 21 percent of Americans think so. As for climate change, Trump does not have much support for his insistence it is a hoax. In the last 10 years, some think climate change has affected the world a great deal (42 percent) or at least some; only 18 percent say not at all. By a 51 percent-to-28 percent margin, Americans think we have not done enough to combat climate change. In the next 10 years, 66 percent of Americans think climate change will affect the world a great deal or some. Trump’s approval (40 percent vs. 52 percent) remains underwater, as does his reelection number against an unnamed Democrat (40 percent vs. 50 percent). His personal ratings are horrendous. (A remarkable 51 percent do not even want him to run for reelection.) Only 31 percent like him as a person (and 18 percent say they like him a lot) or say he is honest and trustworthy. Fifty-four percent say he does not have the temperament to be president. Only 19 percent say he is steady, while 60 percent say he is arrogant, and a strong plurality (44 percent) say he is a racist. Less than a quarter of Americans think he cares about people like him. The House impeached Trump, but it was a victory for alternative facts, Russian disinformation and Fox News, says columnist Dana Milbank. (Video: Joy Sharon Yi, Kate Woodsome/Photo: Getty/The Washington Post) While the country remains evenly divided over removing Trump from office, there is a strong majority in favor of calling additional witnesses in the Senate (52 percent to 21 percent), and roughly a third think there will be a fair trial in the Senate. In sum, depending upon precisely what question is asked, the percentage of cultists who support Trump whatever he says or does is generally less than 30 percent. Another 10 percent to 15 percent may occasionally take his side on positions or policies, but a remarkably large percentage of Americans do not think he is fit and want him gone. Why, then, do the election polls, especially state polls, show a hypothetical general election to be rather tight? First, we should all keep in mind that the electoral college and the people in key swing states are generally less antagonistic toward Trump than the country as a whole. Second, Trump has already begun, and will continue, to demonize Democratic politicians as unpatriotic, crazy, socialist and a danger to his base’s way of life. He won in 2016 by making Hillary Clinton even more unlikable than he; he will try to do the same with whomever the Democrats choose to nominate in 2020. Third, unless and until a Democratic presidential nominee convinces voters he or she cares about them and is in sync with their values and basic political predilections, there will be a segment of “soft” independent and Republican voters who shy away from the Democrats. The bottom line: Trump cannot win a majority of Americans’ respect and affection; he can only try to frighten them about their alternative. That’s why you can expect a vicious, anti-factual campaign that likely will make 2016 look like a picnic. Trump is doubling down on his evangelical supporters for his re-election lgbtqnation.com/January 4, 2020 Trump tells evangelical rally he will put prayer in schools reuters.com/January 3, 2020 Report: 100 Largest Churches In U.S. Are All Anti-LGBT patheos.com/January 2, 2018 Melania Trump Sparkles in a $4.7K Givenchy Gown for New Year’s at Mar-a-Lago footwearnews.com/Jan 2, 2020 "First lady Melania Trump ushered in 2020 in style at the Trump family’s New Year’s Eve party on Dec. 31, held at President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla. For New Year’s festivities, the first lady glistened in a silk-georgette Givenchy gown, which featured gold sequins at the neck and bodice and a floor-sweeping hemline. From Givenchy’s fall ’19 collection, the gown is available to purchase at Matchesfashion.com, where it retails for $4,740." American strike in Iraq prompts anti-war protests in U.S. cities reuters.com/January 4, 2020 "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Groups of protesters took to the streets in Washington and other U.S. cities on Saturday to condemn the air strike in Iraq ordered by President Donald Trump that killed Iranian military commander Qassem Soleimani and Trump’s decision to send about 3,000 more troops to the Middle East."
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HootTheOwl posted:And here I was worried about Trump's second term like a loving idiot What he's doing will probably wind up working without full war and he'll be re-elected, despite what people here are going on about. Atricks fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Jan 5, 2020 |
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Getting ready for the military/industrial catification taxes:
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Atricks posted:What he's doing will probably wind up working and he'll be re-elected, despite what people here are going on about. I mean that we'll all be dead and an election will seem quaint.
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Cool how it's been less than 5 days into the new year and it already feels like an entire year has passed
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Otteration posted:The content presented in these twits would be extremely useful and maybe even transferable if either were backed up by sources (I'm not saying they're lying, but others will). are you saying the video you quoted is fake??
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eke out posted:cool cool hahaha "soleimani killed 1000s of his own people and also we're going to bomb sites with iranian civilians and other non-military targets"
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1) we're going to get led into a war by the same guy who started the trade war with China; the one that had no clear objectives and is still ongoing because ~reasons~. 2) only way to stop the war might be to forcefully depose Trump and deliver him to the Iranians.
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Trump just threatening Iranian mosques with missiles so what
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Bottom Liner posted:are you saying the video you quoted is fake?? The trump video is likely not fake of course, but it's just not very useful for folks that would like to spread it around but don't have or ever want a twit feed. Propaganda can be useful, but not when it's restricted. Otteration fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Jan 5, 2020 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:in what way? like dumb 24 type poo poo or just centrist stuff. Jim from the Office apparently has a huge boner for the CIA and considers them true american heroes so he went out of his way to make sure the show sucks their dick even more than the usual CIA-consulted media production. It's like an Onion parody of a Clancy novel. Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1213424207469649924 https://luke.substack.com/p/god-will-punish-them posted:The documentary makers behind “Hondros” tracked Samar down for the film. 18 then, they had come to see her, in part, to bring her an apology from Hammond, who appears in the film himself now as a broken man, unable to emotionally process the extent of what he did. Hammond still has nightmares every night, he said, over shots of an overflowing bag of medication, anxiety pills and so on. He still sees Rakan walking down the street when he goes to sleep. They, and a lot of other victims of US violence, deserve their revenge. RandomBlue posted:He's threatening cultural sites, most likely religious. If he bombs holy sites intentionally that could literally set off WW3. Stop paying your student loans. Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jan 5, 2020 |
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Didn't the CIA get repeatedly pantsed by the FSB in the 90s? Like, the head of counterintelligence was passing secrets to the Russians for 20 years?
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damp papa john posted:is it just me or is obamacare terrible? Is this a joke?
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DandyLion posted:Is this a joke? Looks like it was a perma-banned poster's rereg
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