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Can someone help me figure out what to do with my freshly-minted first-ever-level-50 Rad/Fire farmer? I'm more interested in getting him set up with a level-appropriate build that A.) frees up the IOs he was using to level for my other characters, B.) doesn't cost so much that the time it saves (relative to a bare-bones build) won't require 20+ hours of farming before it actually pays for itself, ...with maybe the ancillary goal of C.) can be set up in one fell swoop because respecs seem hard to come by and I don't want to burn more than I have to. I looked up a few builds and the "cheap but still effective" one I found had the full ATO set, two purple sets, four full Aegis sets and 5 LotGs, which ha ha ha okay I only have about 30mil to start with here buddy. Plus side they didn't seem to be taking Incarnate stuff into account, so I'm hoping that'll help me economize. Edit: I don't know if this actually poses an interesting question for folks who know all this stuff down cold already. I'm just stymied by being caught between needing to farm in order to get the pieces I need to farm efficiently and not wanting to waste a million respecs slooowly improving piecemeal. Ghost of Starman fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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All you really need to run a fire farm at +4/x8 is maxed fire resist and defense. If you want to get there by buying insps instead of building for it, you'll have a much more tedious experience, but it can be done. What you lose out on is being able to combine all insps into reds for pure murder speed, and not having to make sure you keep your defense up (if you don't, you can die right quick). I used to farm on a fire/fire with a general IO build and lots of purple insps. I found farming fun so I rolled a spines/fire optimized for farming. Then I discovered afk farming and built another spines/fire on a second account. Now I can park two brutes in a cave map full of patrols and come back an hour later to collect a bunch of inf. As far as trying to do it on 30 million goes, I just dragged out the fire/fire and ran a farm map with her. 5 million (not including drops) in 11 minutes. You're rad/fire so unless your build *really* sucks you should already be better than she was, fire melee isn't great aoe. (For comparison, my spines/fire did it in 7:30, which is no speed record either). So, you should easily be able to make another 30 million in an hour of farming. More if purples/pvps drop or if you are on HC and know how to make money from crafting/converting/selling your drops. If your other characters are that much more important you could keep farming on a cheap build forever. Just keep buying whatever size lucks you need to get your fire defense to 45 in advance so you can always load up and go again. tl;dr 30 million is an hour's worth of farming on a crap build and respecs are about a million on HC, so two minutes = a respec. edit: also, unslotters are 150k on HC. I take advantage of that a lot. And common IOs I don't bother to save, I'll just overwrite them with IOs. Commons are essentially free if you have farmer-level income available. Gorgar fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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Dec 19, 2019 10:32
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Gorgar posted:.Then I discovered afk farming and built another spines/fire on a second account. Now I can park two brutes in a cave map full of patrols and come back an hour later to collect a bunch of inf. Wait what!? This is just literally waiting for mobs to run into you?
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Dec 19, 2019 14:14
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Yes, there are farm missions designed for this. I like the fire bugs semi-ranged afk one.
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Dec 19, 2019 18:11
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Gorgar posted:Yes, there are farm missions designed for this. I like the fire bugs semi-ranged afk one. I was mostly running the comic con asteroid back when I was playing on the regular. Sadly I couldn't get many of my friends to catch the COH bug so I didn't end up playing for long.
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Dec 19, 2019 18:59
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Gorgar posted:You're rad/fire so unless your build *really* sucks... I'm afraid that's the situation I'm in; I don't really even *have* a build except poo poo I took and slotted while levelling. A quick shot at the Comic Con outdoor map at +4/x8 got me about 3.6mil in 16 minutes, and I pretty much have to gulp down purples as fast as I can combine 3-ofs. The fact that I'm performing *that* far below par is what made me feel like I need to do some optimizing.
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Dec 19, 2019 20:12
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Ghost of Starman posted:I'm afraid that's the situation I'm in; I don't really even *have* a build except poo poo I took and slotted while levelling. oof https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/7594-farm-fresh-builds-farming-focused-builds-and-tips/ here's the Farming Bible, more or less. builds in the second post. adjust to your tastes (i know i have) but R/F should be about 10x that fast.
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Dec 19, 2019 20:47
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Ghost of Starman posted:A quick shot at the Comic Con outdoor map at +4/x8 got me about 3.6mil in 16 minutes, and I pretty much have to gulp down purples as fast as I can combine 3-ofs. The fact that I'm performing *that* far below par is what made me feel like I need to do some optimizing. Run it at +0/x8 with no bosses. Kill poo poo quicker and easier with just as many recipe drops. Then make & sell the IOs. Use converters to reroll anything that doesn't go for at least 1 mil (type-convert uncommons to rares, then rarity-convert the rares if they're too cheap). Reroll purples aiming for the ones worth 25M, it takes fewer converters than you'd think. You'll be a billionaire before you know it. Edit: +0 and not -1 because you want them to be 50 and not 49. They need to be 50 to drop PVPs and purples. zzMisc fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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Dec 19, 2019 21:25
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Ali Aces posted:Run it at +0/x8 with no bosses. Kill poo poo quicker and easier with just as many recipe drops. Then make & sell the IOs. Use converters to reroll anything that doesn't go for at least 1 mil (type-convert uncommons to rares, then rarity-convert the rares if they're too cheap). Reroll purples aiming for the ones worth 25M, it takes fewer converters than you'd think. You'll be a billionaire before you know it. Yeah this. +0/8 gets you more poo poo over time than +4/8.
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Dec 19, 2019 21:55
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Be sure and run the level 49 map if you are 50, it auto-exemps you down, you still get purples and more influence.
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Dec 19, 2019 22:18
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Gynovore posted:Yeah this. +0/8 gets you more poo poo over time than +4/8. Like, I can complete the entire 5 map blitz of the Comic Con fire farm map in 15 minutes at +4/X8 with bosses.
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I feel like I knew this at one point, but got suckered into slowly cranking up the difficulty even when it started ruining my efficiency. Y'know what it is, is all the farm maps say things like "run it with bosses and +4 difficulty!" "don't forget to set it to +4".  Ali Aces posted:make & sell the IOs. Use converters to reroll anything that doesn't go for at least 1 mil Giving this a try now; will report back if I either become fabulously wealthy or somehow manage to bankrupt myself Edit: Come to think of it, would someone mind taking a look at this Mids build and seeing if it looks like a good starting point for a 'budget' Rad/Fire build? If so I figure it makes more sense to hold on to the set pieces I already have rather than selling now + rebuying later. 
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Dec 20, 2019 00:42
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Ghost of Starman posted:Edit: Come to think of it, would someone mind taking a look at this Mids build and seeing if it looks like a good starting point for a 'budget' Rad/Fire build? If so I figure it makes more sense to hold on to the set pieces I already have rather than selling now + rebuying later. It looks mostly fine, but I'd make the following changes: Fusion - make this 1 slot with just the gaussian's build-up proc, you aren't getting much from the full set here. (+5 slots) Boxing - add two slots, fill it with 3 of the Stagger set, you just got back the fire def you pulled from Fusion. (-2 slots) Weave, Maneuvers - Add one slot each. Give them a lotg +def, or just a generic def to be cheap. You now have actual softcapped fire def instead of just close. (-2 slots) Stamina - Put another slot here for a generic end IO. Why do people always underslot stamina, I never have enough recovery, especially on a brute. (-1 slot) Super Jump - I'd drop this for Tactics with a Adjusted tohit/end. Who the hell needs a travel if you're never leaving AE? Rest - is the end mod here just a joke or what Edit: Checking again, you don't need the def in maneuvers to still reach 45%. Instead you could maybe throw a recharge in Fusion, or if you still experience end issues, a Panacea in Health. zzMisc fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Dec 20, 2019 |
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Dec 20, 2019 02:23
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Guys, CoH came back this year. 
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Ali Aces posted:It looks mostly fine, but I'd make the following changes: Perfect, just what I was looking for; thank you so much!
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Dec 20, 2019 04:57
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Songbearer posted:Guys, Hell yeah, my dude I haven't logged in in quite a while but goddamn I'm still so happy this game is back
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FrostyPox posted:Hell yeah, my dude That's right, guess I can't use the same Christmas wish this year that I've been hoping for for the past 6. Also City of Titans is still being made and at least one other spiritual successor I can't remember the name of. 2020 will be a good year for gaming if nothing else at least.
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Dec 20, 2019 21:04
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All the respec trials are strike targets this week in Homecoming. Man, it's a bit of a downer to play a mastermind with squishy minions in the reactor. Or a controller with no heal.
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Dec 28, 2019 00:21
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So... how do you powerlevel so you can get a farmer going quickly?
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Remora posted:So... how do you powerlevel so you can get a farmer going quickly? ask someone in discord to take you with them to a farm map. idk if he still does but ognar used to do one very long farm map a day and take whoever wanted to tag along through. Tsurupettan fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Jan 1, 2020 |
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I don't so much these days, but will for an hour or 2 , no biggie, which should get you a large chunk if you are a lowbie, just @ognar in the discord. I'm not a fast or efficient farmer but will get the job done if you need it. And also mothership raids dont seem to have any level requirement, i've gone in at 15 and blasted through levels. poo poo, starting with DFB and going into MSR with just plain missioning mixed in you can get 50 in like 2-3 days with the double xp buff.
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I've been on a couple mothership raids lately where the leader gets upset about lowbies leeching xp for some reason so be aware there's a few assholes out there.
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How would they even know considering how laggy and chaotic mother ship raids are? If they stayed at RWZ HQ the whole time maybe, but who bothers paying that much attention? MSRs are run almost nightly on Everlasting. I did one, and was bored shitless throughout. Finishing that created the kind of constipated relief you feel when you finally finish a Synapse, maybe even moreso.
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Brave New World posted:How would they even know considering how laggy and chaotic mother ship raids are? If they stayed at RWZ HQ the whole time maybe, but who bothers paying that much attention? If you just want the Merits and XP, then join a league, help kill the pylons and plant bombs, join everyone in the bowl, then surf porn in another tab for twenty minutes (or, god forbid, read a book or something). Because everyone is getting 2 frames per second, no one will know. As for Synapse, they seriously need to cut that poo poo in half. It's the longest and most boring TF in the game (except for Dr. Q, but that's not needed for any accolades so the only reason to run it is masochism).
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Jan 2, 2020 08:02
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So what's the Homecoming/Goon server split these days? I've got a PC again and might pick things back up, even though historically I've been bad about sticking with this game for long stretches.
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Jan 2, 2020 09:58
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I think most of the gravity was always on Homecoming? I've always hung on Indomitable. Goons are cool. Even pubbies are fairly chill. Side question on incarnate silliness. Is there a way to convert threads to shards? It seems to be implied there is, but isn't clear.
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Homecoming has lots of people and goon server is lucky to have more than single digit players on at once. You can convert shards to threads but not the other way around, but anything you can make with shards you can make more efficiently with threads. Assuming you are trying to make alpha stuff, scroll down on the crafting menu to see the thread options for shard stuff. Took me forever to see that.
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Jan 2, 2020 15:26
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Seriously just ignore the whole shard side of the tree, it's dumb and should have been chopped out years ago.
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I've had some good usage in using shards ONLY to jumpstart the post uncommon alpha stuff. The prices are goddamned horrible for early stuff, but just using shards I happened to have for my first Rare let me get Rare Alpha before even unlocking my judgment slot, let alone my 3rd incarnate level for the first gift package. But yeah, threads otherwise. I can't blame people for being scared off entirely from shards though, because those "Common to uncommon" prices are fuckin absurd. What was it, 20+ shards worth of materials to go from common to uncommon if you just wanted to throw shards at the problem, compared to doing a weekly TF once for a Favor plus 8 shards worth of components to go from Uncommon to Rare? Trying to use shards seriously would make me want to kill myself. But it was nice to realize I could get over the "Uncommon -> Rare" Alpha hump with essentially pocket change from the vestigial currency. Section Z fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Jan 3, 2020 |
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Jan 3, 2020 00:33
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You can Ouro the DA arcs and repeatedly get thread-side components as end of arc bonuses. I can run the first part of Dream Doctor in like 10 minutes, which isn’t too bad to get a solo Uncommon or better component.
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Nemo posted:You can Ouro the DA arcs and repeatedly get thread-side components as end of arc bonuses. I can run the first part of Dream Doctor in like 10 minutes, which isn’t too bad to get a solo Uncommon or better component. Yeah, I have had good success speedrunning the Heather Townshed arc out of Ouro.
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I remember that there's some sort of process for setting up a button that functions as a 'teleport to supergroup base' power, but I've lost the instructions for how to do so - can someone describe the process? Not sure how to look it up on the wikis.
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Ghost of Starman posted:I remember that there's some sort of process for setting up a button that functions as a 'teleport to supergroup base' power, but I've lost the instructions for how to do so - can someone describe the process? Not sure how to look it up on the wikis. /macroimage Veteran_TeleportBase "BaseTP" "enterbasefrompasscode passcodegoeshere"
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Section Z posted:I've had some good usage in using shards ONLY to jumpstart the post uncommon alpha stuff. The prices are goddamned horrible for early stuff, but just using shards I happened to have for my first Rare let me get Rare Alpha before even unlocking my judgment slot, let alone my 3rd incarnate level for the first gift package. But yeah, threads otherwise. Yeah, this is the trick. Using shards for Alpha, as painful as it can be, means you can jumpstart your other slots a lot faster because you're not blowing your early empyreans on it. But I also wouldn't blame anyone just saying gently caress it and grinding extra hard to get the remaining merits/components they need instead of dealing with shards at all.
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John Murdoch posted:Yeah, this is the trick. Using shards for Alpha, as painful as it can be, means you can jumpstart your other slots a lot faster because you're not blowing your early empyreans on it. That's why even I still used Not Shards for my common and Uncommon, because anything but the jump to rare is a real ballbuster Shard style ingredients wise. While 8 shards + Favor (And you want to run weekly TFs anyway, right?) you'll inevitably have basically by accident is no fuss just to bump it up to Rare. I was worried I had hosed up somehow on a few alts, until I kept seeing people screeching in help chat about how Vet level 3 and spending your loot was "Faster than shards" for your Rare Alpha. Because (the tail end of) Vet level 2 is faster than Vet level 3  Then I got to slam dunk my freebie emps into other slots  I'm convinced the origins of "NO JUST DESTROY ALL SHARDS!" reactions are from people who got burnt by trying to go all in on shards, which is a real kick in the dick if you've spent the grand total of something like 30?  shards. only to be reminded too late "Oh yeah, you can just smash threads into the alpha now."OgNar posted:/macroimage Veteran_TeleportBase "BaseTP" "enterbasefrompasscode passcodegoeshere"
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I'm probably just misremembering and it's just Rare Alpha you're supposed to do with shards, now that I think about it. Still a bit of a pain depending on what dumb components you need and your opinion on their associated content.
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In case anyone wondered whether the game supported ultra humongous widescreen resolutions like 5120x1440, the answer is yes.
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Anyone know how this person got his head to look like this? I can't seem to figure it out.
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So, uh, didn't see anyone mention this: https://massivelyop.com/2020/01/02/ncsoft-follows-up-city-of-heroes-code-copyright-filing-with-fresh-trademark-application/ Maybe Homecoming is going legit Maybe NCSoft is going to bring the game back themselves Maybe they're gonna bring the hammer down and kill Homecoming Who knows
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Pindakaas posted:Anyone know how this person got his head to look like this? I can't seem to figure it out. Looks like the martial arts headgear stuff. Start at Hats.
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