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Raccooon posted:Still don't get Americans extreme hatred for Iran. Yes. It was basically a national humiliation, and Boomers being a bunch of lead brained psychos that care more about feeling good than doing anything smart, have held a psychotic grudge over it ever since.
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1994 Toyota Celica posted:the american security/military apparatus hates iran with an undying passion both for overthowing the shah and the ensuing hostage crisis, and because the iranians have consistently and effectively hurt american interests, and agents, in the middle east Also the CIA got every single informant in Lebanon murked because the codeword they used for their meetings was "PIZZA" because it was at a loving Pizza Hut, and seriously who would stake out every pizza place in Beirut? Turns out the answer to that question is Hezbollah.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:free paul soccer you can't even give him away for free
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Frankly I think most people just see "Muslim" and "designated bad guy"
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:free paul soccer mods wildly vacillating on whether cspam is a comedy, sincere, fyad-lite or politics forum depending on the location of the sun & moon
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whyd al saqr get probed
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As of now I'd just read it as an aknowledgement that the dude was insanely popular and you absolutely have to pay lib service. The KDP might still host US troops if they think they can gain an advantage.
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lmao how Trump is so moronic he basically helped Iran accomplish a big Iranian foreign policy goal through his stupidity (removal of US troops from Iraq)
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i dont know what KDP and KRG even means
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Agrajag posted:i dont know what KDP and KRG even means These guys. The right-wing party who run Iraqi Kurdistan.
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How much does the question of legality matter to the American war machine?
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yeah KDP is basically the barzani clan and are the pro-US kurds, based in erbil. the PUK are the other iraqi kurds who are closer with iran if i recall. the two parties fought a civil war in the 90s
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Atrocious Joe posted:CBP are fash these fuckin clout sharks were just steamed that suleimani was the guy that really beat ISIS and was a better tactician than any of them couldn’t tip off too many people that might have more brains than resentment towards him lest they gently caress up the hit
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US abandoning Kurds in Syria probably didn't help them with Kurds in Iraq.
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Dreylad posted:ah, 21st century élan trumo will make the troops wear yellow trousers 
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Zedhe Khoja posted:Also the CIA got every single informant in Lebanon murked because the codeword they used for their meetings was "PIZZA" because it was at a loving Pizza Hut, and seriously who would stake out every pizza place in Beirut? Turns out the answer to that question is Hezbollah. wish they got Epstein that day
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Raskolnikov38 posted:don’t worry we don’t have le rouge pantaloons so it’s gonna work this time!
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trump telling wh press "i need to flush 10, 15 times to get rid of the kurds"
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Raccooon posted:US abandoning Kurds in Syria probably didn't help them with Kurds in Iraq.
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213919480574812160?s=20 Trump is posting sovereign citizen stuff now. Will make impeachment that much more complicated.
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Raccooon posted:Still don't get Americans extreme hatred for Iran. it's 2 points really: 1) The Intelligence community and Military hates Iran for stuff mostly from the 70s and 80s (overthrowing the Shah, Beirut barracks bombing, killing a CIA station chief) as well as the fact that Iran's really been a huge actor in Iraq since the invasion. 2) Regular Americans hate Iran because we've been subjected to at least 20 years of hard HARD islamophobia in all our mass media. I don't know if most people- even people who were alive and old enough to remember it- know if the Beirut bombing was real or something from a season of the A-Team at this point.
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Raccooon posted:US abandoning Kurds in Syria probably didn't help them with Kurds in Iraq. Eh. The KDP don't like the PKK much. They'd be neutral-to-pleased about that.
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Fuligin posted:whyd al saqr get probed might be a Iranian spy
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"Regular americans hate iran" is maybe something that you could say in like 2008 or even 2012 but if yer gunna do an iran war 2020 is way the gently caress to late. Fidel Cuckstro posted:70s and 80s (overthrowing the Shah, Beirut barracks bombing, killing a CIA station chief) These things happened now 40-50 years ago.
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Darth Walrus posted:Eh. The KDP don't like the PKK much. They'd be neutral-to-pleased about that. But it's not entirely clear what the KDP's base thinks about the whole thing. They might also be pretty mad. Edit: Remember that Erdogan only swerved hard towards anti-Kurdish policies after his old plan to win conservative Kurds for the AKP failed due to the massive gain in prestige the PKK got from their fight in Syria. genericnick has issued a correction as of 22:43 on Jan 5, 2020 |
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Fuligin posted:whyd al saqr get probed https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3839774&pagenumber=419&perpage=40#post501261641 Looks like a meltdown when libya/turkey discussion was a bit of a hot topic.
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genericnick posted:But it's not entirely clear what the KDP's base thinks about the whole thing. They might also be pretty mad. The bigger thing is they should also expect to be abandoned.
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Zedhe Khoja posted:Also the CIA got every single informant in Lebanon murked because the codeword they used for their meetings was "PIZZA" because it was at a loving Pizza Hut, and seriously who would stake out every pizza place in Beirut? Turns out the answer to that question is Hezbollah.  got any good article on this?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:big brained left liberals like Zaid are too busy getting the big scoops to ask why communists are the only ones who care to organize anti-war demonstrations
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:The Intelligence community and Military hates Iran for stuff mostly from the 70s and 80s https://news.yahoo.com/cias-communications-suffered-catastrophic-compromise-started-iran-090018710.html wonder if anyone at mar a lago read that article before going to war with the guys who... owned the entire CIA for 5 years for fun
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Darth Walrus posted:Eh. The KDP don't like the PKK much. They'd be neutral-to-pleased about that. from a political point of view sure, but abandoning an ally, even if you hate them, is abandoning an ally. got to think what if I’m next?
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not gonna lie, its pretty loving funny how inept the CIA seems to have always been and just seemingly accomplishes things based on maybe one out of a hundred of them being somewhat talented
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HAMAS HATE BOAT posted:https://news.yahoo.com/cias-communications-suffered-catastrophic-compromise-started-iran-090018710.html They had a similar fuckup in China which led to the entire CIA informant network getting rounded up and shot. They used a central server for informants to submit their info but the Chinese broke into the system. Most of it was due to how the CIA was lazy and in places like Iraq/Afganistan there wasn't enough IT savy to do things like launch cyber-security attacks. Didn't realize that the Iranians and Chinese were much more savy.
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bernie is safe! vote for bernie, the only one iran won't try and kill later!
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etalian posted:They had a similar fuckup in China which led to the entire CIA informant network getting rounded up and shot. quote:In fact, the Iranians used Google to identify the website the CIA was using to communicate with agents. Because Google is continuously scraping the internet for information about all the world’s websites, it can function as a tremendous investigative tool — even for counter-espionage purposes. And Google’s search functions allow users to employ advanced operators — like “AND,” “OR,” and other, much more sophisticated ones — that weed out and isolate websites and online data with extreme specificity. oh poo poo Iran has Boolean capability now
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