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Is this an open discord people can hop into and play because holy poo poo your wrestling world is amazing 
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Lichtenstein posted:I fed my usual group a steady diet of Shockmaster memes...  Take some time, look up some CHIKARA and some other independent federations as well. There's a lot of neat stuff out there, if you wanna look for it.
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Aniodia posted:
Oh yeah, I've gotten into it a little since then. Rather liking how AEW is shaking out, death to McMahon. Chikara and Kaiju Big Battel are loving insane.
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I assume you're familiar with the Ironman Heavymetalweight Championship? Skip past the list of champions to the 'notable champions'.
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Some friends did the Tomb of Horrors 5e and after just going "nope, gently caress that" to anything that was suspicious and getting all the 50/50 stuff right, they defeated the demilich by grappling him and putting him in a bag filled with flasks of holy water and using the Bigby hand to crush and punch him. Turns out the demilich only has 2 moves that don't require him to be able to see the target so it didn't matter than the barbarian had thrown away the +1 flail for a nonmagical axe and did literally no damage because welp, can't see through the bag. One of them got drangled by the brain fog, but the very first thing they said after "hi, how are you, what are you doing down here?" was "do you mind coming over here to talk?" so that whole thing was easy too after a couple of restorations. In the end there were no deaths, closest was the "hp to 0" Howl, but the barbarian had the thing makes you survive with 1 hp AND death ward so he survived that twice and the polymorphed Siren got hit too so she just got spat out of owlbear form with full hp too.
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According to my GM, there is no such thing as Night City Comic-Con. But in a few weeks we are playing an all-day Cyberpunk 2020 session...
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berenzen posted:Story #1: The Mandusa.
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CobiWann posted:According to my GM, there is no such thing as Night City Comic-Con. Of course not, the original Comic-Con sued so they had to change it to something less catchy.
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Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:W... Why did Steve have to be golden and hairless? That's not really a medusa thing... Was it just a "make something extremely horrific looking" idea that someone had? Or did Steve have an early childhood sexual awakening while watching Goldfinger on TBS? I have no desire to delve into the minds of either Steve or the game runner at the time, who was eventually ousted as a sex pest and forced out of the community.
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One of my players used a spell he's had since forever to call in a big evil fire elemental to fight for them, and promptly named it Burnie Cinders.
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EthanSteele posted:Some friends did the Tomb of Horrors 5e and after just going "nope, gently caress that" to anything that was suspicious and getting all the 50/50 stuff right, they defeated the demilich by grappling him and putting him in a bag filled with flasks of holy water and using the Bigby hand to crush and punch him. Reminds me of a boss fight we had in the first VtM campaign I larped in. It was some sort of Super Ghost, I can't remember the actual name for it, and our plan was to wrap it in a blessed burial shroud and beat them like a pinata.
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Tunicate posted:I assume you're familiar with the Ironman Heavymetalweight Championship?  oh Japan. Seriously that list of notable champions is hilarious and I thought "Oh it can't get better than a Ladder but then it just keeps getting better.
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Two of the people in the wrasslegame (me included) are fans of NJPW, although the game really gave me some motivation to watch more wrestling and even go to some local shows.
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CobiWann posted:According to my GM, there is no such thing as Night City Comic-Con. Of course not. It's a Cyberpunk future. It's Night City Anime-Con.
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Well, I guess I'll bring some more wrassletales. I am too in the goon game, playing as Javier aka Fragata, the Luchador. He's a third-generation luchador, so he literally grew up in the biz. The thing is that the gimmick of his family promotion is that everyone there has a bird-themed mask and name, and the callbacks and jokey references have reached the point where I enlisted comedy wrestling master Ganso Sin Nombre as help for a match. Backstage I've somehow managed to avoid most drama, which has made Javier one of the reasonable people in the locker room, which is hilarious as he's a dyed-in-the-wool carnie, probably incapable of surviving in polite society, and perfectly willing to put his personal safety in jeopardy if he thinks it'll lead to good lucha. The big storyline I've concluded has been saving our giant jobber's career by training him and having him debut as the hoss luchador Casuario to help me take revenge on the heels that had kidnapped my PC's grandfather, the original Fragata. I'm one of the more diehard wrestling fans in the game, and I must say that writing up matches in the system is a delight, it doesn't constrain what you can try to do but has you live with the consequences.
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joylessdivision posted:
There are compilation videos on youtube which are great
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LupusAter posted:Ganso Sin Nombre Oh my god, talk about your heels with face heat
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I'm running a 13th Age game for my friends and a lot weird stuff happens like the Roll20 dice gaining sentience for a few sessions. One of my players is playing a dragonborn named Jubilee, the first daughter of the White Dragon, Whom we renamed La Blanche because saying 'The White' made everyone a reasonable amount of uncomfortable. La Blanche and Jubilee get their power from the moon. As a bit for the first few sessions, I said what phase the moon was in to add some flavor. One week, I said it was a super moon because there was one in real life. Roll20 ran wild with this; Jubilee could not roll below an 18 for that entire session, even when I rolled for her. Then next session, I said it was a new moon and Jubilee missed with every roll. That solidified that they should only adventure during the full moon. I haven't stated what phase the moon is in for a little while and I really need to next session. Another short story, also featuring Jubilee, showcases her relationship with her mom. Jubilee's player decided that as the first daughter of La Blanche, she has the worst of her sibling. She's the smallest, has the lowest magical skill ceiling of her siblings and is basically the runt. As a result, her mom doesn't really care for her. Jubilee is a Cleric going around spreading the good word about the moon. Her mom sends her into the world with hand-me-down equipment and her church is basement room in a bar in the bad part of town. Later we meet her brother, clad in pristine armor and robes, who is preaching out of a large church in the hills. I posted this as a reference for it  As I recall this stuff, I think I have a few more stories to write. Like the creation of the moon which doesn't exist in the game world by default. And my players accidentally making an imitation of a legendary magical item too well. BallisticClipboard fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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WWWRPG owns, I had a one shot that ended with the boss getting screwed and the championship belt going to a jobber heel with a Top-hat evil vaudeville robber baron gimmick.
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LupusAter posted:Well, I guess I'll bring some more wrassletales. I am too in the goon game, playing as Javier aka Fragata, the Luchador. Oh my god he has a literal pepperoni nipple, it’s amazing 
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Tevery Best posted:WWW is very explicit about how it's all predetermined - the winners and losers of fights are decided by literal GM fiat Unless one of the ways to overturn the booking is used (as you posted in your story). Aniodia posted:
The other one to look up right now is NWA Powerrr on youtube - seriously retro modern wrestling. But for third parties I'd recommend starting with Lucha Underground - or Netflix' GLOW (which is a TV show rather than an actual wrestling league).
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Two words - Orange Cassidy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9WFs_WJH04
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CobiWann posted:Two words - Orange Cassidy. 
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CobiWann posted:Two words - Orange Cassidy. Ah yes... the one that Jim Cornette calls "My little dog pockets" because he refuses to promote him in any way.
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Just got back from a game day, played in a couple PFS games. Two modules, two near death experiences. The first module was some sort of big overland race. At each checkpoint, you had to complete a challenge related to this guy's legend, though you were granted a ton of leeway in how you actually solved each puzzle. The race starts with our sled falling apart at the starting line. We get it repaired, and we have our suspicions about it being sabotaged and by who, but we're unable to find any conclusive evidence. It doesn't matter though, because the way the module is written, we loving steamroll everything and rack up so many progress points that even if all the other teams combined theirs, we'd still be beating them. Whether this is because the DM misunderstood how it was supposed to go, or if the module just wasn't written that well, I dunno. Regardless, we broke the challenges over our knee. At the third checkpoint though, we discover the mutilated corpse of a caribou. Everybody crit fails their check to determine anything useful, and I joke that they all think Tiamat did it. "Yes, Tiamat, the 5 headed goddess of evil dragons, she killed this caribou." NPC with actual ranks in Survival: "Actually it was some sort of bear. We've seen this thing before." "Well obviously Tiamat taped a polar bear to each of her claws in order to cover up her involvement." The DM announces that this is exactly what everyone who crit-failed believes, and we all have a good laugh about it. "Is Tiamat even in Pathfinder!?" "She is now!" All the fun died as we get to the end of the module, when we get attacked by the previously alluded to bear. A Giant Short-Faced Bear, or something like that. This motherfucker was a tank and a half. 24 AC, and so much +to hit that anything higher than a 3 or 4 on the die was a hit. Oh, and when it hits you, it auto-grapples you and it gets to throw you 20 feet away, and that also deals it's full melee damage to you. And it doesn't have to roll to succeed, it just happens. So, on any given round, it was probably doing a minimum of 20 damage. Our average party level was just shy of 3. It was basically a war of attrition. We had a Cleric and 2 Sorcerers who were able to focus on healing (save for the two times the Cleric used that Fire Ray focus spell to great effect), which kept my monk and the barbarian standing, which allowed us and the Champion to maintain a constant flanking bonus and eventually wear the bear down and beat it. We dragged it back to town and made a stew out of it for our victory banquet. The second module. Jesus loving Christ. For a bit of background: My very first PFS character was a Magus back in 1e. Several years ago, he had his throat torn out by a Bearded Devil, and even though he had enough banked Prestige to get rezzed, a number of factors stopped me from playing for a long time, I lost his chronicle sheets, and I functionally retired him. To this day, he still just hangs out in the Dark Archives doing busywork down there. Pretty sure I posted about it way back when it happened, either in this thread or one of the previous iterations. So, I have a bit of faux-PTSD when Bearded Devils are involved. Our mission for the second module was to find a previously unknown Pathfinder Lodge that some ancient legendary pathfinder had established centuries ago, and bring back any info about her and the stuff she was up to, since a lot of the stories about her have big blank spots in them. After getting an idea of where to even find the place from a vintner whose ancestor used to own the land in question, we make our way there. Inside, the place is infested with kobolds. Enough so that it became a threat, as they were able to flank us at numerous points and just take advantage of their superior numbers. This was especially bad when they brought a spellcaster with them and used themselved to form a barricade between us and the spellcaster who kept laying into people with Magic Missile to great effect. After a long time (because we kept rolling for poo poo on our attack and damage rolls - as in, doing 4 damage on a crit bad) we kill the minions and take the time to rest up. Earlier, we had encountered the ghost of the guy who originally owned the keep, and he explained how he had tried to get one over on a Bearded Devil, since he figured a devil would be less expensive than provisioning actual troops. The ghost makes a deal with us that he'd help us seal the Devil inside of a stone throne that kept is bound to the Keep, or something. Honestly, I completely misunderstood what we had agreed to, as I found out later. Fully rested and recovered, we make our way to the main chamber where the Devil awaits us. We haggle for awhile, offering to send it back to Hell so it won't be stuck in the Keep with nothing but kobolds for another century, and it tries to get us to hand over the Ghost (who is inside an old Wayfinder we found) and he'll let us leave alive. Negotiations fall through, and combat begins. In the first round, the Devil stabs me with the glaive for a critical 35 points of damage, plus persistent bleed and then busts me for another 10 on a regular hit. My max HP is like 47. "I swear to god, if another one of my characters dies to a bearded devil, I am loving done with Pathfinder." Fortunately, although the Devil gets a few solid hits in, we're able to keep ourselves standing and score some large hits despite his absolute smorgasbord of resistances and DR. In a bit of closure/full circle, it was my monk with a Positive energy charged Ki Strike/Flurry of Blows combo that dropped the Devil. With the Devil down, I complete the ritual to bind it to the stone throne while the Champion stabilizes the rogue and deals with everyone's persistent bleed damage. Now, here's the thing: When we were talking to the ghost, I completely misunderstood what he was asking us to do, and I thought he was giving us instructions on how to unbind the Devil from the throne when it died so it would go back to the Hells. What actually happened was the Devil is bound to the throne like an infernal battery. As a result, as far as the chronicle sheet is concerned, I have a slottable Boon that says I am the rightful master of an infernal keep. Once per adventure, I can do the Pathfinder equivalent of Hellish Rebuke, using a Reaction to torch an enemy for fire damage if/when it targets me or an ally for an attack. I've also decided that, since my character considers himself as training for the Starstone Trial, one of his Godly edicts is going to involve a personal grudge against devils. 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So, instead of moaning on chat, here’s an experience from our last session that I find representative and you all might find amusing. We’re playing through the standard adventure set for Pathfinder 2e. The players are about to head into the last section of the module, but are just slightly below the recommended level for it. The module suggests a couple of encounters to throw at them on the way to tip them over the XP threshold. As they are sailing upriver on a stolen boat, I go with a Rusalka. Basically a siren. So. I tell the players that as they are sailing up the river, they see a strange blue-skinned creature emerge from the water onto some rocks, and it begins to sing a haunting song. I ask them to make Fort saves for the ability. I of course know exactly what to expect, and have the book ready to answer the inevitable flurry of tactical questions: - how wide is the river? - how wide and long is the boat? - how far is the boat from the bank? - are you sure that people standing on the opposite side of the boat would be affected? - how far was the ship from the Rusalka at the moment it appeared? - did you roll to see if anyone spotted the Rusalka waiting in the water before it came up? - are there any other ships, and did we see or hear them getting attacked? Which were headed off when I pointed out that the range of their song is 300 feet according to the book. We go into initiative, which I preroll having taken an example from Dragon Friends. There is, as always in PF2e, some minor dithering because the start of combat rules in PF2e are screwy. Everyone except two PCs make their save and are now immune. The others are Fascinated and obliged to move towards the Rusalka for 1 round. We stop to discuss and reference if casting Flight on oneself to gain the ability to move towards the Rusalka is acceptable (I say yes). The other asks if steering the ship towards the bank would be acceptable and I say yes to that to, since hey that’s what sirens did, but the other player points out that the PC who was previously steering the ship (and made their save) is in the way of them turning the wheel, and asks if they can try and fail to reach the wheel in order to satisfy the charm. On their turns, the PCs Grapple the non-flying charmed PC. We look up if they can be Pinned (not in PF2e) and what happens if like 3 other PCs dogpile them (RAW nothing but we can fudge it) On their turn, the Rusalka extends the charm on the other PCs, although both make saves, meaning the charm will end after 2-3 rounds. After a round of movement and grappling, I try to consider what they would do next. Trying to climb onto the boat is suicide. I notice they can summon a Living Waterfall, which might help with the people on the boat, so they do that. “How do they know everyone has made their saves against the song?” is muttered. I break out the Bestiary and look up Living Waterfall. It also can’t exist outside the water. There are no listed HP or defences for boats, so no way to adjudicate an attack. It does have Control Water, but the effect of this spell is to raise or lower water uniformly in a wide area by up to 10’, and to “Slow any marine creatures in it”. A spell which can only mildly inconvenience a fish is going to do sod all against a boat of any size. So next round the flying PC breaks the charm and turns around and I have both the fae just gently caress off into the river because there’s nothing they can do. The flying PC suggests trying to hunt the Rusalka down, but can’t thanks to their huge Stealth bonuses underwater. The game goes on with the players unimpressed by the unproductive, uninteresting and lengthy sidetrack. I’m pretty sure I did a bunch of stuff wrong. But I hope this puts my previous attitudes in some context..
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Ran a Fallout game sat in the Coachella valley. It was a mixture of Palm Springs decadence, and western tale. Turns out this area wasn’t nuked during the great war, so it was a paradise attracting way too many people. There was a saga about a crooked tribal leader trying to attract people with rumors of a (fake) gold mine, and the Rangers of Joshua Tree National Park expanding and trying to create a national park the size of the entire state. Meanwhile, one of the players was a taker who just wanted to be left alone but was under the thumb of the crooner and mayor Frankie Z. The Rangers attacked a PC’s ranch, doing brutal damage with boulder catapults and sniper fire. (Boulders were much more effective than rockets or atomic weapons in preserving the land.) What I didn’t expect to happen was the Tinkerer stealing an airplane from the Palm Springs airfield, attaching his lightning gun, and bombing the Rangers from the air... and landing perfectly. I was so willing to drop in consequences but every airplane flying roll was perfect. A bloody land battle, by a joyrider looking to impress his friend the rancher. Very Fallout. Golden Bee fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Aug 15, 2023 |
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hyphz posted:I’m pretty sure I did a bunch of stuff wrong. But I hope this puts my previous attitudes in some context.. Re. The ruskalla and the waterfall, dropping the water under the boat by 10' would have possibly damaged the boat with the drop, and sunk it the moment the surrounding water rushed back in, leading to everyone being in the drink.
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hyphz posted:I’m pretty sure I did a bunch of stuff wrong. But I hope this puts my previous attitudes in some context..
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Ilor posted:Maybe...quit playing games with lovely rules that don't help the GM work with the players to create compelling stories? I'm not sure what to tell you here.
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Yawgmoth posted:This, but also stop playing with crazy people who absolutely need to follow every single rule to the letter as if fudging anything will cause the whole table to burst into flame and melt at once. The only worse thing are people who combine playing-to-win and rules-as-written, because they dutifully police the other players and the GM for any infraction upon the letter of the law and then become creative storygaming libertines who love the spirit of the law the moment their own turn starts
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One of my biggest mistakes as a GM was to say “whatever the die rolls, stands.” I killed too many players to stupid dice rolls in a Twilight:2000 campaign that I am embarrassed by it. In that same vein, players who stick to the rules are also mistakes. Groups that treat the rules of a game as holy gospel passed down from God on high are missing the facts that: the game system was created by people who did plenty of adjusting to the rules to make it playable to them and: these games are meant to entertain and when they don’t do that then changes need to be made.
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No. 1 Apartheid Fan posted:The only worse thing are people who combine playing-to-win and rules-as-written, because they dutifully police the other players and the GM for any infraction upon the letter of the law and then become creative storygaming libertines who love the spirit of the law the moment their own turn starts Don't some of the newer rulebooks, like 5e (shut up, 5 years ago is still newer enough for me) and PF2 actively encourage DMs to view the rules as more of a suggestion/framework than an absolute "This is how it must be." ?
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According to my DM, I am not allowed to hire a goblin to follow the PC's around and steal the verbal, somatic, and material signs of the Wizard in order to have the goblin bang on a drum during a fight with the Big Bad to let them know which spells are incoming and if they're worth Counterspelling.
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the_steve posted:Don't some of the newer rulebooks, like 5e (shut up, 5 years ago is still newer enough for me) and PF2 actively encourage DMs to view the rules as more of a suggestion/framework than an absolute "This is how it must be." ? Yep, but ask a Pathfinder Society GM what happens when a PC dies and see what they say 
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