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UCS Hellmaker posted:Imagine the cost to replace that door goddamn Just call your local cooper. Maybe Winnie will show up.
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PurpleXVI posted:Their faucets usually aren't a big issue(though the loving 1/2" fittings can be a bitch to get through the hole in the sink/tabletop if they're pre-attached to the hoses/hoses are pre-attached to the faucet and they're not removable), the main curse tends to be their kitchen sinks that usually have extremely non-standard drain solutions which means that if one thing goes fucky the whole thing needs replacing because for ?????? reasons it runs in 45mm pipe when there's only 40mm or 50mm as common spare parts, so you can't replace any of it. 45mm is basically 3", which is a very standard size for drainage pipe in the US/Canada. My guess is that they just couldn't be bothered to redesign for the rest of the world that uses metric.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:45mm is basically 3" 45mm is like 1.8”.
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NoSpoon posted:45mm is like 1.8”.
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BogDew posted:I thought it was 2/5ths of a pound of pipe. It’s actually the weight of a sphere of iron with the same diameter as the pipe’s interior. 
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Lead out in cuffs posted:45mm is basically 3", which is a very standard size for drainage pipe in the US/Canada. Sorry, but the 3/5 measurement conversion ratio is for black iron pipe only
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Careful with the racial edgelording please
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When I was working at a sort of material kiosk at the Shipyard like 13 years ago some dude came in and asked for two inch pipe. I turned around to look at the chart and he started shouting "you should know what size that is without looking at a chart!" and I replied with "why - do you?" To my amazement that shut him up. Then all the pipes started clapping and I married the chart.
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Platystemon posted:It’s actually the weight of a sphere of iron with the same diameter as the pipe’s interior. So, like 400 pounds of concrete?
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Jerry Cotton posted:When I was working at a sort of material kiosk at the Shipyard like 13 years ago some dude came in and asked for two inch pipe. I turned around to look at the chart and he started shouting "you should know what size that is without looking at a chart!" and I replied with "why - do you?" To my amazement that shut him up. At least in Danish plumbing, a plumbing inch is completely unrelated to a normal inch(like a three-quarter inch in plumbing measurements is roughly equal to a "real" inch, a measurement which we've still got but no one uses for anything), which is very confusing to the conscientious customers who measure their fittings before coming in, convert the mm to inches because they've heard plumbing stuff is usually in inches, and then confuse the hell out of both us and themselves.
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Jan 4, 2020 21:04
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PurpleXVI posted:At least in Danish plumbing, a plumbing inch is completely unrelated to a normal inch(like a three-quarter inch in plumbing measurements is roughly equal to a "real" inch, a measurement which we've still got but no one uses for anything), which is very confusing to the conscientious customers who measure their fittings before coming in, convert the mm to inches because they've heard plumbing stuff is usually in inches, and then confuse the hell out of both us and themselves. So kind of like carpentry where a "1" measurement is actually 0.75"
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amethystdragon posted:So kind of like carpentry where a "1" measurement is actually 0.75" You are probably thinking about dimensional lumber depth/width which is referred to by the unfinished measurements. That's all. Not even the length of that very same lumber. It's not a carpentry thing in general.
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amethystdragon posted:So kind of like carpentry where a "1" measurement is actually 0.75" A 2x4 is ~1.5"x3.5". A 2x6 is ~1.5"x5.5". 2x8 is ~1.5"x7.5". And so on. Take the nominal dimensions, then you lose however much material the lumbermill removed to make the board more or less flat and smooth. So it's not a straight multiplication, it's "subtract half an inch", except that isn't guaranteed to be precise.
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Jan 4, 2020 23:47
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Content, content, I must have some content to make this all stop.
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Crossposting for interest: Brutalist Turkey Library: PYF awesome/awful architecture https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3887504
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stealie72 posted:Pretty sure my friends and I made a better structure out of literal scrap wood in my friend's backyard when we were 10. Years ago, I watched a bunch of kids make a fort out of construction debris from a construction site. They got into the tools and framed it up. They didn't steal the tools, which is nice, and they were having fun. The only wood they used was the scrap. They built a very passable clubhouse out of junk wood. It took them a full days work. They put the tools back and horsed around until night. The next day the construction guys knocked it down with their Bobcat and threw it in the dumpster.
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And thus the circle of life continued... Hope kids are still doing things like that.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:A 2x4 is ~1.5"x3.5". A 2x6 is ~1.5"x5.5". 2x8 is ~1.5"x7.5". And so on. Take the nominal dimensions, then you lose however much material the lumbermill removed to make the board more or less flat and smooth. If you want nominal, just ask the sawmill. Give me 'till morning and I'll give Bucko a call. I can put in an order and, after sawing and drying, I'll get you an actual 2x4. Just need to know if you need rough cut or smooth. Also need to know if you're OK with Red Pine. I could probably get you White, but that's really pricey. If you need 40' Red, I could probably snake you some but it will cost. Have to get a hold of a lumberjack. There's some plantation pine that's just waiting for a buyer. Custom cut is acceptable. Best to grab 'em when it's time for thinning. Bucko likes to cut. He lives to cut. He's retired, but he'd love a chance to cut some more. Don't negotiate with him though. If you talk about price, he'll only charge you less. He's an odd duck. One time he tried to give me money to buy some off-cuts of Red that he wasn't happy with. We tried to give him a C-note but he put it back in my shirt pocket. I was able to negotiate it down to zero. It's really hard to get him to take money for small orders. By the way, I'm a big fan of writing tall tales but all of what I said above is true. I was raised in Northern MN logging country. I haven't seen Bucko in a while. Next time I'm up north, I should stop by and say hi. Hope he's not dead.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:A 2x4 is ~1.5"x3.5". A 2x6 is ~1.5"x5.5". 2x8 is ~1.5"x7.5". And so on. Take the nominal dimensions, then you lose however much material the lumbermill removed to make the board more or less flat and smooth. They could dry the log out first and then cut it, but that'd take a lot, lot longer than drying the cut-up log.
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NoSpoon posted:45mm is like 1.8”. Yeah gently caress. I may have been very tired and/or in an altered state when I posted.
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Zereth posted:I believe it's not that they start with something that actually has those dimensions according to a ruler and then trim it, it's that they start with something freshly cut from a log that meets those dimensions and then dry it out and this causes it to shrink. I do not believe that's the case. To quote a generic builder's merchant quote:Regularised (consistent dimensions) by planing all round with 'eased' (rounded) corners for comfortable handling. Our regularised carcassing finishes 2mm off nominal thickness and 5mm off nominal width. So that 2x4" (47x100mm) will actually be 45x95mm, as can be seen by the same 2x4 from a timber merchant that lists real dimensions: https://www.alsfordtimber.com/timber/sawn-timber/treated-carcassing/sawn-carcassing-treated-eased-edge-45mm-x-95mm-c16-4595rtrfsc I'm sure there is some shrinkage in the drying process but I'm pretty sure the nominal dimensions are the rough-sawn dimensions, and you're expected to know how much planing takes off. 0.5" seems like a lot to me, though.
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Jaded Burnout posted:“Listed building revenge story” Great story. That said - I don’t agree with having so many listed buildings in the UK, and it’s a ridiculous waste of time and money. Not to mention the fact that they’re just unsafe, and obviously can’t comply with any kind of modern building safety standards. No idea how this kind of legislation makes it through a sane parliament, given the real problems we have as a country, especially concerning unsafe rental property. There are many buildings slowly going derelict because it’s not economic to renovate them with these restrictions. They may be occupied. In London and the South East it can be worthwhile to renovate a listed building. Elsewhere, it’s often an insane proposition.
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wooger posted:No idea how this kind of legislation makes it through a sane parliament, given the real problems we have as a country, especially concerning unsafe rental property. There's not any way to really discuss this that doesn't belong better in D&D, but bear in mind that particular legislation happened 30 years ago.
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Zereth posted:I believe it's not that they start with something that actually has those dimensions according to a ruler and then trim it, it's that they start with something freshly cut from a log that meets those dimensions and then dry it out and this causes it to shrink. Things are different for hardwoods which are more likely to be sold rough and usually sold in random widths/lengths and they are occasionally actually allowed to dry in the log to some extent. The checking that develops at the ends usually radiates out from the center of the log, but in hardwoods the center of the log is usually destined to be a railroad tie where checking isn't as much of a concern.
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I still have trouble handling the fact that for Anglophones some soft woods are called "hardwood" because ???
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mostlygray posted:Years ago, I watched a bunch of kids make a fort out of construction debris from a construction site. They got into the tools and framed it up. They didn't steal the tools, which is nice, and they were having fun. The only wood they used was the scrap. They built a very passable clubhouse out of junk wood. THey probably didn't want the inspector to come around, look at it and be all "why don't you guys do this good of a job on the houses"?
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Kids should have stolen the bobcat the next night and done some demo work of their own
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Jerry Cotton posted:I still have trouble handling the fact that for Anglophones some soft woods are called "hardwood" because ???
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And get this, black walnut? Not actually black!! Zebra wood is, however, exactly as advertised.
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Scarodactyl posted:And get this, black walnut? Not actually black!! If you hear coconut, think horse-chestnut, not zebra wood
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In think we're just supposed to know which woods are hard and which are soft. People still buy scots pine for flooring and then paint it lmao.
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My wood is mostly soft these days.
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wesleywillis posted:My wood is mostly soft these days. Pining for your more youthful days? Fir not, it’ll be oakay.
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Uhh umm... YOSPOS, birhc
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Bad Munki posted:Pining for your more youthful days? Fir not, it’ll be oakay. so yew say
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wesleywillis posted:My wood is mostly soft these days. Maple some pills would help?
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:A 2x4 is ~1.5"x3.5". A 2x6 is ~1.5"x5.5". 2x8 is ~1.5"x7.5". And so on. Take the nominal dimensions, then you lose however much material the lumbermill removed to make the board more or less flat and smooth. Even worse, for 2x8 and larger you actually lose 3/4" in the long direction, so it's 1.5" x 7.25" for a 2x8, 1.5" x 9.25" for a 2x10, etc.
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MrYenko posted:Maple some pills would help? Walnut try some natural remedies. Oakthough, The Ohio State University Extension state that high-quality trees have diameters in excess of 18 inches, great height and trunks that are free from defects such as bumps, limbs, cracks and holes. So maybe you just don't measure up.
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Suspect Bucket posted:Walnut try some natural remedies. Oakthough,
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I had a chat not too long ago with a carpenter from the UK, who was working in Whistler for a while. He worked on one new-build house where they poured the foundations in September. The developers didn't choose to protect the build site in any way through the winter. Apparently he and three other carpenters were spending half their time shovelling snow off bare wood so they could see where to put the nails. They way he put it: "I really don't get it. Are they saving tons of money by not waiting six months? Because I know how much they're losing when they're paying carpenters to shovel snow."
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