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Alchenar posted:Any rumours as to when we'll start seeing new sets of panels? CES starts in a few days, anything launching in the near-ish future will probably be shown there.
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So, I'm having the discussion over in the PC building thread a bit, but I figured I'd ask here too. In short, I'm looking for a new upgrade from my VG248. I initially wanted 144hz 4K IPS but quickly realized that's not an affordable thing yet. Sacrificing 144hz since I don't game primarily seems to be the wisest thing to drop out of the three options, so, looking at options therein, I found this: https://smile.amazon.com/LG-27UK850...ics&sr=1-3&th=1 Would anyone advise against this or is there something that offers the same at a cheaper cost?
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I like my Predator XB27HU or whatever quite a bit, but I would like to go ultra wide, and $800CAD seems like a pretty fabulous price for the the PG348Q. I’d rather have 144Hz, but I can live with 100Hz I think. Any reason I might not want to jump on this? Is it deeply discounted because there’s a successor coming in the next month? Is it made of human teeth? https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/produc...pg348q/10414771
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The successor has already been out for a while, the PG349Q increased the refresh rate to 120hz and made the curve much deeper. So yeah they might just be clearing out the last stock of the older version.
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repiv posted:The successor has already been out for a while, the PG349Q increased the refresh rate to 120hz and made the curve much deeper. So yeah they might just be clearing out the last stock of the older version. Hmm, that does sound nicer, but I don’t know if it sounds $350 nicer...and at that point I think the AW3418DW might be better. So much for that easy decision!
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Any suggestions for mitigating burn-in on an OLED TV when using it as a monitor? So far, using an aggressive screensaver/screen off setting, , and hiding the Windows 10 toolbar seem to be the things I have found.
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space marine todd posted:Any suggestions for mitigating burn-in on an OLED TV when using it as a monitor? So far, using an aggressive screensaver/screen off setting, , and hiding the Windows 10 toolbar seem to be the things I have found. Use the lowest brightness you can tolerate, remove all icons from the desktop, use an all black background and a darker windows theme (that includes a darker / neutral text color). You already got the other stuff down, but also take care to remember that some apps will pause the screensaver timer in use, like games or media players, so don't assume the screensaver will save you every time. I would probably try to avoid using a browser or standard windows stuff as much as possible to avoid burning in toolbars and tab titles into the screen. This would still take thousands of hours, but it's all cumulative, so the closer you can manage to stick to using it like a secondary screen that you send content to, the longer you'll be able to avoid burn in. Of course, on the TV itself, leave all of the burn in protection stuff on, I personally have the logo luminance adjustment set to high to help protect against unavoidable instances of window title bars being on the screen. Also keep in mind that use as a PC monitor is typically not recommended. I do it anyway for my living room media PC, but it still gets varied contents (we use game consoles and dedicated media players more often than the PC), I accept the risk and acknowledge that I'll likely need to replace the TV sooner rather than later. "Sooner" in this case I expect to be some time in 4-5 years.
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Can you get a 32” OLED? A friend of mine is slowly moving towards the acceptance of an LG48CX OLED TV when they’re released. I expect it to be a third of the price of that super-Predator!
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TheFluff posted:https://twitter.com/tftcentral/status/1213952003061243904?s=21 Probably another VA panel too to try to block out the stupid HDR backlights.
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240hz is steaming baby trash that makes me so mad. im fuckin fuming. wont someone address me needs. oh thank god!!!
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LODGE NORTH posted:So, I'm having the discussion over in the PC building thread a bit, but I figured I'd ask here too. Same page, but anyone have any guidance on a good 4K IPS monitor?
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That isn't a bad monitor as long as you realize that the Freesync/VRR on any 60hz monitor is basically completely worthless. It's a relatively higher end monitor, I personally don't see a reason to buy it unless you're making money doing photoshop or video work on it. 4K 60hz monitors are getting to be about as dime a dozen as 1080p monitors, you can search 4k IPS on Amazon and find a boatload of them. If you want a 4k monitor for gaming, you're still in a holding pattern. Maybe late this year we'll see the first good ones, but they will probably be overpriced for a solid year or two before they really become mainstream. That's why I really favor just buying something cheap that you can transition to a secondary monitor when actually good 4k gaming monitors become a thing.
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K8.0 posted:That isn't a bad monitor as long as you realize that the Freesync/VRR on any 60hz monitor is basically completely worthless. It's a relatively higher end monitor, I personally don't see a reason to buy it unless you're making money doing photoshop or video work on it. 4K 60hz monitors are getting to be about as dime a dozen as 1080p monitors, you can search 4k IPS on Amazon and find a boatload of them. Well, my thought process is that I may not be buying a new monitor for another 2 years anyway, so for now, why not get something decent to good. I currently work off of a MG248Q, which isn't bad, but I kinda wanna start seeing 4K. I guess, at this point, I'm looking for what the best I can get for <$500 would be even if it means I have to sacrifice something. Like if I can go 2K, 144hz, IPS and be in a decent range etc. e: I've decided to sacrifice 4K in favor of 2K, so still an upgrade. Prices seem a lot more manageable. Now, to find the "really good" 2K, 144+hz, IPS options. LODGE NORTH fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Jan 6, 2020 |
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Cygni posted:240hz is steaming baby trash that makes me so mad. im fuckin fuming. wont someone address me needs. oh thank god!!! quit loving around with sub 100ppi monitors and give me 27" 144hz for a reasonable price already!!!
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LODGE NORTH posted:e: I've decided to sacrifice 4K in favor of 2K, so still an upgrade. Prices seem a lot more manageable. Now, to find the "really good" 2K, 144+hz, IPS options. Nixeus EDG-27s v2. $340 right now. The stand is poo poo and the OSD isn't great, but the panel performs well and the Freesync implementation is great. You can spend more money and get something generally better, but the value isn't there. Sphyre posted:quit loving around with sub 100ppi monitors and give me 27" 144hz for a reasonable price already!!! Is it too much to ask for both? I want 4k 360hz. We all know we're only playing old games that will run at 4k/350 FPS anyway.
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K8.0 posted:Nixeus EDG-27s v2. $340 right now. The stand is poo poo and the OSD isn't great, but the panel performs well and the Freesync implementation is great. You can spend more money and get something generally better, but the value isn't there. What would those options be? 
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50fps videos on YouTube will still look weird on a 360hz display 😅
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LODGE NORTH posted:What would those options be? What will you primarily be using the monitor for, if you're mostly not gaming? That should help with recommendations.
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The Big Bad Worf posted:Use the lowest brightness you can tolerate, remove all icons from the desktop, use an all black background and a darker windows theme (that includes a darker / neutral text color). You already got the other stuff down, but also take care to remember that some apps will pause the screensaver timer in use, like games or media players, so don't assume the screensaver will save you every time. Thanks! By brightness, do you mean "Brightness" or "OLED Light"? Assuming you have an LG set with similar terminology. I plan on using this for a while and then switching it to whatever comes out that actually matches my needs (42" 4k/144Hz with HDR would be ideal).
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Stickman posted:What will you primarily be using the monitor for, if you're mostly not gaming? That should help with recommendations. Video and movie editing, design work, other basic computer things. The only real gaming I do on this is Remote Play from my PS4, but I haven't played a game on this thing in years, maybe.
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Cygni posted:240hz is steaming baby trash that makes me so mad. im fuckin fuming. wont someone address me needs. oh thank god!!! Is there a CPU even capable of pushing out 300fps+ in esports titles?
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Sphyre posted:quit loving around with sub 100ppi monitors and give me 27" 144hz for a reasonable price already!!! Amazon in Europe is currently selling the 27GL850B for less than the „cheaper“ 27GL83A so maybe the rumors of panel oversupply in 2020 turn out to be true. I’m tempted to order one just to get rid of the NVidia vendor lock-in that is (old) G-Sync. That 360Hz announcement is unexpected but in the end it’s about reducing input latency and that’s never a bad thing, even though the average consumer like me may not immediately notice a difference to 144Hz. Anandtech posted:As well, they measured a 14.5ms reduction in total (end-to-end) latency, going from 34.5ms at 240Hz to 20ms at 360Hz. Note that these figures are from NVidia marketing material so  .
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eames posted:That 360Hz announcement is unexpected but in the end it’s about reducing input latency To what? LCD is already within 1/1000 of CRT.
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KingEup posted:Is there a CPU even capable of pushing out 300fps+ in esports titles? Should be pretty doable in CS:GO and Rocket League. That's a wild announcement though. It's like they're just throwing random poo poo at the wall so they don't lose their R&D budget.
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KingEup posted:To what? LCD is already within 1/1000 of CRT. Call it render latency then.
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eames posted:Amazon in Europe is currently selling the 27GL850B for less than the „cheaper“ 27GL83A so maybe the rumors of panel oversupply in 2020 turn out to be true. I’m tempted to order one just to get rid of the NVidia vendor lock-in that is (old) G-Sync. oops, i meant to post 27" 4K 144hz  i've already got a 1440p VRR monitori've been using high DPI displays on my phone since 2010 (iphone 4) and on the laptop since 2013 (retina MBP), however in PC world it's 2020 and people are still saying things like "I don't see why you'd want 4K in 27" size, it's too small". it's madness!
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Constellation I posted:That's a wild announcement though. It's like they're just throwing random poo poo at the wall so they don't lose their R&D budget. What we really need is a 1000Hz hidpi monitor so we can start to emulate the exact look of CRTs properly.
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And in 4K high refresh rate monitor chat: Asus announces the PG32UQX (FALD): https://rog.asus.com/articles/gaming-monitors/the-rog-swift-pg32uqx-delivers-the-best-4k-hdr-gaming-experience-yet/ and LG with the 27GN950-B, which looks like the 4k version of the 27GL850B: https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27gn950-b-gaming-monitor
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Nixeus also getting in on 27" 4K 144Hz: https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/blog/nixeus-nx-edg274k-announced-with-27-4k-ips-type-panel-and-144hz-refresh-rate-using-dsc/
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So uh, based off my recent questioning etc, should I just wait for these or will they likely sit around 1K in price? I was ironically just looking at the 27GL850B.
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Who knows. The Acer XV273K was $1000 at launch but has dropped significantly. Would not expect these to be much below $800 at launch but again, who knows.
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TheFluff posted:Nixeus also getting in on 27" 4K 144Hz: https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/blog/nixeus-nx-edg274k-announced-with-27-4k-ips-type-panel-and-144hz-refresh-rate-using-dsc/ These are the first monitors to actually support DisplayPort compression right? It'll be interesting to see what the artifacts are like.
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Goddamn I went to three different computer stores yesterday and literally all of them were sold out of regular DisplayPort cables longer than 3 ft, let alone ones that are 1.4 spec. I guess I might just chance one of the ones on Amazon but given all the ones there have at least a couple reviews saying "Got a bad cable can't actually handle 1440p 144Hz" I'm worried it's going to take a while to actually be able to use adaptive sync 
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If you're seriously that worried order multiple cables from Amazon and then take the surplus to literally one store to return instead of wasting time and carbon emissions running around like it's your first day "doing commerce"
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space marine todd posted:Thanks! By brightness, do you mean "Brightness" or "OLED Light"? Assuming you have an LG set with similar terminology. In this case it would be OLED light, the setting that adjusts display luminance
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LG finally has a 4k HFR display. Since their panels are the best around, hopefully we don't see the garbage quality of AUO anymore
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Some of LGs panels are very good, some are not. It's more that AUO has historically been known for poor QA - but they've also consistently been the company pushing the bleeding edge. I wouldn't place a particularly high level of faith in any of these panels sight unseen. Let other people buy in, wait and find out what panels are consistently good. Plus DSC probably still looks like rear end anyway. Personally I'm not considering 4k until HDMI 2.1/DP2.0 is real.
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