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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Shut up Meg posted:

As a Man Who Knows, can you tell me if it is okay to always run my Kenwood on 'Rapid' which doesn't have a drying cycle?



Seems to work for my lifestyle as I run it at night and it's dry by the time I want to use dishes - but that isn't going to cause issues with the machine, is it?
It takes 1/5 time of a normal cycle, so it must be using less electricity.

And to keep this on topic - anyone else used a dishwasher to clean IT hardware? I've cleaned keyboards and it worked extremely well.

At those temps you aren't going to get rid of greasy residue properly and eventually choke up the pump/sump arrangement. You want minimum 65 degrees C on wash, and to properly sanitise, run the drying function which should be roughly 80 degrees C.

Dickhead answer: If you want to save power, get a scrubbing brush and pair of gloves :)

ookiimarukochan posted:

Beko's stuff has an unfortunate tendency to catch fire, their tumbledriers and fridges in particular, so perhaps not them? Whirlpool have been having the same problem in the last couple of years recently in the UK, and - even better - refusing to fix known bad designs that have killed people.

Oooh must be a new thing. Here everything Beko has a 5 year warranty and were seriously awesome to deal with. It's Samsung that has the honour of self immolation with their washing machines (they have a top loader model with a little soaking tub built into the lid with a water fountain to fill it. We joked to customers that Samsung are so innovative they have a built-in fire extinguisher).

I really shouldn't blindly recommend brand x or y, only going from my experience. Oh and another one for Aussies: NEVER EVER get a Bellini brand anything, warranty is run by one satellite office that seems like a shell company, parts ordering are through another random company who just forward orders to yet another company which is a warehouse with a completely useless rear end in a top hat that never returns emails, and will forget to send every third order. Also their official parts ordering website has Paypal as it's only payment option (and the website is so broken the pay now button sometimes doesn't show up!).

END RANT (for now)

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taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

mllaneza posted:

The best sales job I've seen recently was inflicted on our Corporate Communications team. They wanted a PC that could drive 4 monitors in a slideshow to play in building lobbies. IT speced out a USDT machine with a PCI video card with 4 ports (Nvidia something) for under a grand. And that'd be a standard machine we keep parts for.

What I found when I went to fix a bad fan that Reception had called in was very much not that.

Take an HP Z240 workstation, 8GB/1TB. Stick one of those Nvidia cards in it. Run a DisplayPort cable to the Z240 and plug it into a DP-miniDP adapter so it can connect to the ports in the add-in video card, ignoring both of the two actual DP ports and the VGA port.

Now buy three more Z240s because you have three more displays to control ! That's right ! 4 miniDP, 2 DP, and 1 VGA port times four machines, minus 4 miniDP used, is a total of 24 unused video ports in that array !

I'd like to shake that salesperson's hand, but I'd count my fingers afterwards.

That's so extravagant I feel like sales would be too ashamed* to pitch that, and the customer demanded it for some stupid reason.

*I know they have no shame, could be they shot for the moon and hit and they are a hero

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Humphreys posted:

At those temps you aren't going to get rid of greasy residue properly and eventually choke up the pump/sump arrangement. You want minimum 65 degrees C on wash, and to properly sanitise, run the drying function which should be roughly 80 degrees C.

Gotcha.
So, if I were to run the '90min Cycle' once a month when I run some descaler (water here is very, very hard) through it, then it should keep it internally clean and help the lifespan?



Humphreys posted:

Dickhead answer: If you want to save power, get a scrubbing brush and pair of gloves :)

I am embarassed to say that this is the first dishwasher I have ever owned.
I can give you a lot of guidance on what type of gloves to buy and sink maintenance tips, but I am still pretty clueless with regards to the Magic Box.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Shut up Meg posted:

Gotcha.
So, if I were to run the '90min Cycle' once a month when I run some descaler (water here is very, very hard) through it, then it should keep it internally clean and help the lifespan?




I am embarassed to say that this is the first dishwasher I have ever owned.
I can give you a lot of guidance on what type of gloves to buy and sink maintenance tips, but I am still pretty clueless with regards to the Magic Box.

Yeah seems ok. Do some vinegar washes occasionally.

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Humphreys posted:

Yeah seems ok. Do some vinegar washes occasionally.

I've been using the cleaning pods, but they do look a lot like Tide Pods and that brings a serious problem for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM6wanZOLtk

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Shut up Meg posted:

I've been using the cleaning pods, but they do look a lot like Tide Pods and that brings a serious problem for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM6wanZOLtk

But really do the intense setting once in a while too. For the good of your crockery.

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Humphreys posted:

But really do the intense setting once in a while too. For the good of your crockery.

Sorry, what? Clean is clean, right?


And some thread-related stuff so it isn't just me getting a free masterclass about dishwashers: Worked in a company and there was a manager that was pretty much universally disliked and especially by me. On my last day, I happened to share a kitchen with him and notice that he'd make his coffee and then leave the teaspoon in the sink (rather than quickly rinsing it for reuse). Confirmed to me on the spot that my judgement was right and he was indeed a complete c-word.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Yeeaaah good for you Bob Morales, so glad to hear. It was my internet stranger power that did it btw. It's really nice to have a good job. Like, my family even noticed this holiday season how I was different (o only see them once a year).

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Goddamnit.

I've been testing out a new GPO to override corporate's sleep settings and add our own for a few use cases; we want an hour and they want 15 minutes. The system is in an OU with inheritance blocked and just our 1 hour GPO applied. It says it gets our GPO. System power settings show the 1 hour setting. drat thing blanks and locks the screen after 15 minutes no matter what I do; which includes checking BIOS settings and updating the BIOS.

I pull it from the domain, check power settings to verify the one hour setting, and it's still there. And the drat thing still locks up after 15 minutes.

At least it isn't a GPO issue.

I update the drivers and it's still ignoring the actual sleep settings. gently caress me, I have to escalate to HP support.

PBS
Sep 21, 2015

mllaneza posted:

Goddamnit.

I've been testing out a new GPO to override corporate's sleep settings and add our own for a few use cases; we want an hour and they want 15 minutes. The system is in an OU with inheritance blocked and just our 1 hour GPO applied. It says it gets our GPO. System power settings show the 1 hour setting. drat thing blanks and locks the screen after 15 minutes no matter what I do; which includes checking BIOS settings and updating the BIOS.

I pull it from the domain, check power settings to verify the one hour setting, and it's still there. And the drat thing still locks up after 15 minutes.

At least it isn't a GPO issue.

I update the drivers and it's still ignoring the actual sleep settings. gently caress me, I have to escalate to HP support.

Just do gpupdate /force; shutdown -r -f -t 01 until it starts working or you give up.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Battery backups on individual office PC's....thoughts?

Sprechensiesexy
Dec 26, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Bob Morales posted:

Battery backups on individual office PC's....thoughts?

Fire and/or health hazard given the intelligence of the average office drone.

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik
In our case, nope. The majority of people in the office have laptops, sorry if you need to undock during a power outage! It just adds another cost and support issue down the road.

Our call center and IT infra admin area circuits are on the generator, as are obviously the network closets and datacenter.

klosterdev
Oct 10, 2006

Na na na na na na na na Batman!

mllaneza posted:

I've been testing out a new GPO to override corporate's sleep settings and add our own for a few use cases; we want an hour and they want 15 minutes. The system is in an OU with inheritance blocked and just our 1 hour GPO applied. It says it gets our GPO. System power settings show the 1 hour setting. drat thing blanks and locks the screen after 15 minutes no matter what I do; which includes checking BIOS settings and updating the BIOS.

GPOs can be enforced to ignore blocked inheritance. You miiiight be able to get around that by setting local group policies, but that's an inevitable mess. Talk to your AD admin up the chain?

Edit: If system power settings show the 1 hour setting, it's probably not enforced. Orrrr corporate is doing something dumb like using regedit to configure things that policies exist for

Bob Morales posted:

Battery backups on individual office PC's....thoughts?

If you have any PCs that can't handle being disconnected or rebooting, a battery backup seems like a bandaid. Maybe set them up with Remote Desktop Services (or set up a VM they can RDP to from a laptop) if super-critical?

klosterdev fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Jan 6, 2020

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Bob Morales posted:

Battery backups on individual office PC's....thoughts?

How long does the power go out at a time? If it is down for more than 10mins, you're loving into lost time and serious moaning.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Not sure, it's a new building in a new office park so I'm not sure what the power is like.

Swapping out batteries and troubleshooting bad $75 UPS units seems like more trouble than it's worth.

Literally nobody here uses a laptop at their desk. But if the power even blinks, all of our ovens, laser, robets, etc go down so we're hosed anyway.

On a side note I get to go spend like 2 hours waiting in line for a drug test for the new gig tomorrow.

I liked it better when you just went down to Qwest, pissed and left.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Much better off having a huge UPS in the basement with a generator backup, and provide protected outlets for people to connect their computers to.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Bob Morales posted:

Not sure, it's a new building in a new office park so I'm not sure what the power is like.

Swapping out batteries and troubleshooting bad $75 UPS units seems like more trouble than it's worth.

Literally nobody here uses a laptop at their desk. But if the power even blinks, all of our ovens, laser, robets, etc go down so we're hosed anyway.

On a side note I get to go spend like 2 hours waiting in line for a drug test for the new gig tomorrow.

I liked it better when you just went down to Qwest, pissed and left.

Its a good idea but it should also be something that should be serviced by facilities. If this cant be handled that way, then you hope that the userbase is small or its not going to be worth it to support it.

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Bob Morales posted:

Not sure, it's a new building in a new office park so I'm not sure what the power is like.

Swapping out batteries and troubleshooting bad $75 UPS units seems like more trouble than it's worth.

Literally nobody here uses a laptop at their desk. But if the power even blinks, all of our ovens, laser, robets, etc go down so we're hosed anyway.

Definitely avoid it unless it becomes a big issue.

Not only is looking after those things an unecessary faff, they are surprisingly annoying when you have to move a desktop PC around - they get in the way of things and quite heavy when you have to lift them at an awkward angle.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

mllaneza posted:

Goddamnit.

I've been testing out a new GPO to override corporate's sleep settings and add our own for a few use cases; we want an hour and they want 15 minutes. The system is in an OU with inheritance blocked and just our 1 hour GPO applied. It says it gets our GPO. System power settings show the 1 hour setting. drat thing blanks and locks the screen after 15 minutes no matter what I do; which includes checking BIOS settings and updating the BIOS.

I pull it from the domain, check power settings to verify the one hour setting, and it's still there. And the drat thing still locks up after 15 minutes.

At least it isn't a GPO issue.

I update the drivers and it's still ignoring the actual sleep settings. gently caress me, I have to escalate to HP support.

This sounds like registry entry. Is there a logon script doing something ridiculous? I'd pop open regedit and see what it says it's set to.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Shut up Meg posted:

Definitely avoid it unless it becomes a big issue.

Not only is looking after those things an unecessary faff, they are surprisingly annoying when you have to move a desktop PC around - they get in the way of things and quite heavy when you have to lift them at an awkward angle.

We're a metal fab shop, remember. There is literally a guy designing some under-desk mounting brackets for them right now

New job has a big-rear end Liebert...

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Bob Morales posted:

Battery backups on individual office PC's....thoughts?

Desktop PC's should probably rely on the building's backup power, not their own. If you're down to using desktops on batteries, then you've probably got bigger problems that don't need people working at desktops on batteries. The only gear that should be on UPS is stuff that'll die or poo poo its work if the power flaps (ie; network and server gear).

See if you can budget a generator for the building instead, sell it as cost-efficiency on keeping everything running with one reliable device instead of several hundred points of failure.

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Bob Morales posted:

We're a metal fab shop, remember. There is literally a guy designing some under-desk mounting brackets for them right now

Oh, I thought this was the new place - you are officially not supposed to give a gently caress about your current place as of last week.

Still no, though. Don't bother unless you have frequent cuts - these days stuff is surprisingly resiliant to unexpected power offs - it's not like it takes 10mins to boot up and chkdsk and you've lost 4 hours work anymore.

And if you do any frequent cuts, your first priority should be getting emergency lighting in the bathroom cause you don't want to be sitting in there when the lights go out.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Is there a service where I can arrange for someone with local knowledge to order internet connectivity to a new office? I know the UK market really well, but buying MPLS from our usual provider to e.g. Hungary is needlessly expensive if I just need fast Internet access, and it's going to perform like crap for breaking out to the Internet anyway - I could do with someone who is going to handle the language barrier and help us avoid taking out service with some completely shithouse provider like Windstream.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair
If you need individual UPSes at every desk, what you really need is an office space that isn't a huge piece of poo poo.

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic
At my old job, each desk had a UPS, but in three years, I don’t think they were ever needed. So in practice, what it meant was that one would have a fault and start beeping somewhere on the floor and make everyone cranky until someone found it and shut it off (because, naturally, it would be at the desk of one of the people who were never, ever at their desk).

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Desktop PC's should probably rely on the building's backup power, not their own. If you're down to using desktops on batteries, then you've probably got bigger problems that don't need people working at desktops on batteries. The only gear that should be on UPS is stuff that'll die or poo poo its work if the power flaps (ie; network and server gear).

See if you can budget a generator for the building instead, sell it as cost-efficiency on keeping everything running with one reliable device instead of several hundred points of failure.
Yea, they have a generator installed but this is for the short time that it takes to kick on and switch over.

We're putting them in but I would have never bothered if it were up to me.

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


mllaneza posted:

Goddamnit.

I've been testing out a new GPO to override corporate's sleep settings and add our own for a few use cases; we want an hour and they want 15 minutes. The system is in an OU with inheritance blocked and just our 1 hour GPO applied. It says it gets our GPO. System power settings show the 1 hour setting. drat thing blanks and locks the screen after 15 minutes no matter what I do; which includes checking BIOS settings and updating the BIOS.

I pull it from the domain, check power settings to verify the one hour setting, and it's still there. And the drat thing still locks up after 15 minutes.

At least it isn't a GPO issue.

I update the drivers and it's still ignoring the actual sleep settings. gently caress me, I have to escalate to HP support.

This sounds like the GPO screensaver setting, i.e. the thing you have to use in Windows to make it lock after a certain amount of time because OF COURSE it's setting a screensaver to start why would you think there'd be an actual auto-lock setting.

Anyway that wouldn't have anything to do with the power/sleep plan in GPO, so if they've got screensaver set to start after 15 minutes (and the machines would have gotten this setting and set it if they'd had GPO enabled before, so since your new GPO isn't changing that they retain the setting they had before inheritance was blocked) that would explain it.

edit: User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Control Panel > Personalization

SyNack Sassimov fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Jan 6, 2020

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


Back when I was a sysadmin for an entire org we put individual UPS' in at every desktop at our main office and it was fine. We had a couple power outages a year and while our server room was on generator, the rest of the building wasn't. We just kept a couple spare batteries in stock and would swap them out when they started beeping. We got these: https://www.amazon.com/APC-Back-UPS-Battery-Protector-BE550G/dp/B0019804U8

BadMedic
Jul 22, 2007

I've never actually seen him heal anybody.
Pillbug
I'm in QA, and today I was spending the whole day running a series of tests on a prototype.

The tests started out fine, but after a while the results started to look almost like random noise, instead of the nice curve I was expecting. I started to get worried, cause the timelines are getting pretty tight on this project. While I was preparing the data to show to my boss, I glanced at the prototype...

...and saw a blown ferrite bead. One quick fix with a soldering iron, and everything is back to normal.

Except for an entire day wasted, of course.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


How hard is it to get 2 internal organizations to sync contact information?

I mean, technically it’s a 5 minute problem with a dozen solutions, but bureaucratically this been intermittently passing me off for over a year with no end in sight.

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]

The Fool posted:

How hard is it to get 2 internal organizations to sync contact information?

I mean, technically it’s a 5 minute problem with a dozen solutions, but bureaucratically this been intermittently passing me off for over a year with no end in sight.

Is your name Heracles?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

SQL INJECTIONS? WHATS THAT?

Gonna be a long next 2-3 weeks.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Bob Morales posted:

SQL INJECTIONS? WHATS THAT?

Gonna be a long next 2-3 weeks.



I don't get why you are trying. I don't know the specifics of your role. I don't know what you title is. Saying that, the level of support you are giving this person isn't warranted after getting that reply. I would just stop doing anything for that person or team. They are hopeless.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Sickening posted:

I don't get why you are trying.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Every time I feel like an imposter I read the forums a bit and my brain calms down.
How in the hell, in the YEAR OF THE LORD 2020 do people STILL not sanitize mysql input? HOW?

Dimestore Merlin
Jul 14, 2007

Obey your Spider-Lord

Just send them the Bobby Tables comic as a response.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

It's my soon to be ex-boss.

His response:


PHP code: That is one of the reasons that I don't like it. I spent too much time trying to decipher PHP_DEV_THAT_LEFT's code and when he has multiple %s values in the string it makes it harder to determine how his parameters are being used. This is exaggerated when you don't have a solid handle on the data structure.

Not the greatest example but the quickest one that I can come up with:

Navigation::AddUserLink(sprintf('mailto:%s&Subject=Quotation #%s&Body=%s', $quote->ConfirmTo, urlencode($quote->QuotationNumber), urlencode(PHP_EOL . $quote->getPublicURL())), 'Email Customer', 'fa-envelope');

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Demanding you explain how it's better is a good sign they don't respect you at all, as a reasonable person would either be "thanks for the suggestion!" or spend 5 minutes googling it themselves to figure out why it's a better way to do things.

But nah, dude gotta turn that poo poo around and make you justify yourself.

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Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

xzzy posted:

Demanding you explain how it's better is a good sign they don't respect you at all, as a reasonable person would either be "thanks for the suggestion!" or spend 5 minutes googling it themselves to figure out why it's a better way to do things.

But nah, dude gotta turn that poo poo around and make you justify yourself.
We had the exact same conversation a few months ago, but with PHP code.

The best part is the main system we use for everything in the company (VBA app) shits the bed if someone puts a quote or something in a field

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