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So if RLB wins, will the Jessanistas accept it or continue to undermine, slag off and generally do their best to divide Labour? Another page snipe! 26 is the product of two prime numbers, 2 and 13. In the year 26 Pontius Pilate was appointed as Prefect of Judea. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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Of course, there'll be something they'll come up with as to why they can't support RLB. Even if it's just "she's not Jess Phillips, the nation's sweetheart". Though to be honest if Jessflaps loses the leadership election I wouldn't be surprised if she fucks off to the Lib Dems to run in their leadership election.
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You know in your heart the answer to this.The Question IRL posted:With Sinaga, he picked a group that wouldn't recognize the signs of what had happened. (This is borne out by how many never knew they had been the victims of crime until they were told by the authorities.)
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Cocaine is a Tory drug. As in, Tories take it, and they love that they get to gently caress over marginalised communities at the same time. A real drug for rear end holes.
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Lmao wtf Rayner https://twitter.com/PeteMcCats/status/1214249951435337729?s=19
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Guavanaut posted:You know in your heart the answer to this. Just the last six days? Did the internet ever come to a conclusion on how to deal with persistence of media/information from the 1920s etc, now it's a century later? Nobody gave a crap about the 1880s in 1980 because they hadn't managed to weaponise nostalgia yet but throwing a roaring 20s party won't ever be the same again. E: Oh god what are you doing talking to the Spectator. Yes there's arguments to be made that the culture of the white working class does not place the same emphasis on educational attainment as more 'motivated' immigrant families but not like this. Not the spectator. Jedit posted:I don't think "Why don't British people have as good an attitude towards education as the Africans do?" is exactly a major problem. What am I not seeing here? The hordes of frothing guardian liberati just offscreen screeching about the racist left. RockyB fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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I don't think "Why don't British people have as good an attitude towards education as the Africans do?" is exactly a major problem. What am I not seeing here?
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To be clear the bolded bit is the guy from the spectator, and she appears to be making the point that immigrant families push their kids to do well in education (which she thinks is good) a lot more than native british families do, which she attributes as a white working class problem, seemingly drawing off her experience with her mother. Which I mean I disagree with on the basis that educational attainment is or should be important, to the extent that unless you get a shitload of it it's not gonna help you and requiring everyone to get loads of it is bad and not something we should encourage. I also don't really like boiling down social problems to some weird family morality thing. Whether she's describing an actual trend or not I've no idea. Article is also from january 2018. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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Jan 7, 2020 01:34
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Jedit posted:I don't think "Why don't British people have as good an attitude towards education as the Africans do?" is exactly a major problem. What am I not seeing here? However if any other group than white boys was performing like this  then the usual lot would be pretending to sip whiskey and polish their skulls talking about genetic inferiority, so it's very strange that in this instance they all came out with "white males, the true persecuted minority" with no further analysis  so I can see why it might be fun to poke that nest.e: ^^^ it's actually the narrow skull of the masculinized caucasoid that limits learning *sips apple harvest*
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The Question IRL posted:At the risk of sounding disrespectful towards the victims, to me they are the bigger part of this story than Sinaga's use of drugs. It's basically a toxic masculinity thing - you might worry about getting into a fight in the pub car park, but how to avoid situations like the victims of this oval office is just not something you ever have to learn, because men are big and strong and only women have to worry about getting taken advantage of. If there's a positive to take from this it might be that men become a little bit more aware of the world around them and realise that maybe you should make sure your mate's got home OK instead of just waving him off into the night - which might even encourage a bit more empathy with and support of female victims of rape.
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I'm not sure that awareness even is a positive - fear and paranoia about rape will be in your mind vastly more than actual risky situations, especially for men. Stressing out over a unlikely scenario might be more harmful than awareness of that scenario, and I want a world where no one has to keep fears of rape in the back of their mind, not one where straight men has to like women do today.
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A world where everyone understands the reality of those fears is more likely to move towards being a world where nobody has to, than one where the dominant group lives in ignorance of the reality of life for the majority of the population.
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OwlFancier posted:To be clear the bolded bit is the guy from the spectator, and she appears to be making the point that immigrant families push their kids to do well in education (which she thinks is good) a lot more than native british families do I'm quoting someone I used to know very well but won't say who it is: "Of course we work harder than white people, it's the only way to succeed in this racist country."
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That line African American parents stereotypically tell their kids: "You'll have to work twice as hard to get half as far."
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The main thing about the Sinaga situation is that it's a great case to staple to the forehead of any twat who says things about women deserving it because they were drunk. It's horrible that you have to go that far to get these people to actually feel empathy but there it is. Also go RLB, the politics of Corbyn and the anger of Skinner, just what Labour needs.
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Jedit posted:I don't think "Why don't British people have as good an attitude towards education as the Africans do?" is exactly a major problem. What am I not seeing here? Edit: I dunno why I said "implies", she pretty much states it outright 
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My only problem with RLB running for leader is that all the opinions columnists, comedy shitheads and anyone else who erroneously thinks they're funny will repeatedly call her "Rebecca Wrong-Daily" because they believe that being as annoying and unfunny as possible is "owning the libs" and therefore paradoxically the absolute height of comedy. If you say "this isn't actually funny", they will take the utmost delight in declaring you a "snowflake" who has been "triggered", which will to them mean that they have won a great victory in the war against the left-wing establishment, which is an absolutely real and not at all imaginary thing. "Rebecca Wrong-Daily" - coming soon to multiple comments below multiple articles near you.
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Jollity Farm posted:My only problem with RLB running for leader is that all the opinions columnists, comedy shitheads and anyone else who erroneously thinks they're funny will repeatedly call her "Rebecca Wrong-Daily" because they believe that being as annoying and unfunny as possible is "owning the libs" and therefore paradoxically the absolute height of comedy. If you say "this isn't actually funny", they will take the utmost delight in declaring you a "snowflake" who has been "triggered", which will to them mean that they have won a great victory in the war against the left-wing establishment, which is an absolutely real and not at all imaginary thing. RLB decriminalise weed so I can say "Rebecca Bong-Daily" which is infinitely cooler.
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RLB mandate homosexuality so I can call her Rebecca Strong Gaily
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Julio Cruz posted:It's basically a toxic masculinity thing - you might worry about getting into a fight in the pub car park, but how to avoid situations like the victims of this oval office is just not something you ever have to learn, because men are big and strong and only women have to worry about getting taken advantage of. Many years ago when I, a man, was 19 I was thrown out of opium in Edinburgh for being a drunk state, and because the people I was there with were in a loving nightclub I could obviously not get through to them. Long story short there was this middle aged bloke just sitting there in his expensive merc outside the club (in retrospect a classic sketchy character - all greasy slicked back hair, gold chains, and slightly too many shirt buttons undone), and while I'm standing outside working out what to do he leans out and offers to give me a ride. I was steaming and cold and briefly considered it like a total dumbass but thankfully just then one of my friends appeared looking for me then got the others and we moved on. Now he might well have just been Scotland's sleaziest taxi driver, but the car was unmarked so I'm doubtful. And if not what the hell is this guy doing just idling in an expensive car outside nightclubs in the early hours offering lifts to random drunk men young enough to be his son? I occasionally remember this and as I've gotten older I've become increasingly convinced (and troubled) that I might have actually quite narrowly avoided being assaulted or worse. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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I wonder if there has ever been a worse PM (from the point of view of how much his influence reaches across history and fucks everything up) than Lord "I'm an utter poo poo" Palmerston. I want to kick a number of historical figures clean in the throat and he is loving high on the list.
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Josef bugman posted:I wonder if there has ever been a worse PM (from the point of view of how much his influence reaches across history and fucks everything up) than Lord "I'm an utter poo poo" Palmerston. Boris says "Hold my sherry". At least Palmerston gave us those cool forts, the only physical legacy of Bojo's Wild Ride is going to be some new 50ps.
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He was okay as Home Secretary (by the standard of Home Secretaries), had weird hangups about giving the urban working class the vote but was pro union and pro prison reform. It was his first time as Foreign Secretary where he really showed his Flashman-like skill for repeatedly failing upwards.
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I've really enjoyed the press saying loving nothing about the PM's utter absence. Cool and normal media class we have
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He's also said that Boris will get a trade deal closely aligned with the eu https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1214288337642696705?s=19
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics/status/1213217379519516674?s=19 New non-pacifist Generallisimo Corbyn looking tight. When's the first barricade going up?
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Ms Adequate posted:That line African American parents stereotypically tell their kids: "You'll have to work twice as hard to get half as far."
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Josef bugman posted:I wonder if there has ever been a worse PM (from the point of view of how much his influence reaches across history and fucks everything up) than Lord "I'm an utter poo poo" Palmerston. Man looking him up that dude loving *hated* Irish people. Spoke of them like most racists spoke about Jewish people.
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Jose posted:He's also said that Boris will get a trade deal closely aligned with the eu It would be hilarious if after all that Johnson then just capitulates to the EU entirely in order to DET GEXIT BRONE
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Ms Adequate posted:That line African American parents stereotypically tell their kids: "You'll have to work twice as hard to get half as far." Anyone even remotely interested in this topic should read Akala's book "Natives" which is really good and interesting and depressing.
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Tesseraction posted:Man looking him up that dude loving *hated* Irish people. Spoke of them like most racists spoke about Jewish people.
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mehall posted:RLB has formally announced her candidacy for leadership, and this article is fire - Glad to see we're blaming the assholes who are responsible for our devastating loss. That's right Ed Miliband!! E Jaeluni Asjil posted:So if RLB wins, will the Jessanistas accept it or continue to undermine, slag off and generally do their best to divide Labour? If Jessflaps won would we become blairites? Why would you expect them to
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Miftan posted:Anyone even remotely interested in this topic should read Akala's book "Natives" which is really good and interesting and depressing. Yeah seconding this, one of like 3 good books written about the UK in the 21st century
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Tesseraction posted:It would be hilarious if after all that Johnson then just capitulates to the EU entirely in order to DET GEXIT BRONE Of course he will. Boris has no principles or goals beyond keeping Boris in power, if the fastest way to get brexit done is capulation he'll do it.
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Boris is being the statesman here. He's calmly remaining above it all and deliberating on his next move.
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Tesseraction posted:It would be hilarious if after all that Johnson then just capitulates to the EU entirely in order to DET GEXIT BRONE Tbf utterly capitulating to the EU is probably the safest way to do Brexit at this point from a ‘the economy continues to function’ POV
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Communist Thoughts posted:Glad to see we're blaming the assholes who are responsible for our devastating loss. That's right Ed Miliband!! Votes for Labour in 2015 - 9.3 million Votes for Labour in 2019 - 10.2 million The reason the Tories got power is because people like what they're saying, but a lot of that is around Brexit, and because Boris managed to make his campaign one where he somehow didn't come across as the incumbent.
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