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Just bought 100 shares of AMD today to sell some slightly OTM calls on and now I'm hosed
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Oh please. Wake me up when futures are down 2 or 3
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Jan 8, 2020 02:11
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fougera posted:Oh please. Wake me up when futures are down 2 or 3 All is well!
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Jan 8, 2020 10:06
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BA going to lift indexes into the green on the day we’re blaming technical difficulties for the crash of the last airworthy plane in the world, full of Iranians, which Putin ordered Trump to shoot down to deescalate tensions in the Middle East, what a timeline
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movax posted:All is well!
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Tokyo Sex Whale posted:BA going to lift indexes into the green on the day we’re blaming technical difficulties for the crash of the last airworthy plane in the world, full of Iranians, which Putin ordered Trump to shoot down to deescalate tensions in the Middle East, what a timeline Technical difficulties  Also, movax posted:All is well!
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Jan 8, 2020 13:13
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Ghosn's press conference is absolute chaos.
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Jan 8, 2020 15:19
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He's staying in corporate housing! He's amazing.
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Jan 8, 2020 15:45
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Holy poo poo he's really doing a presser from exile in Lebanon lol.
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Jan 8, 2020 15:57
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I must be an incredibly gullible sucker because my working hypothesis is still that the whole thing is a trumped up nationalistic hit done as an inside job by the Japanese/Nissan on him. FREE GHOSN.
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Jan 8, 2020 17:11
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He hid how much he paid himself so that his bosses will continue to trust him with the authority to set how much he pays himself. entrapment!
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Jan 8, 2020 18:38
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Sold AMD calls yesterday and then bought again today on the dip. Not on the bottom but I'm in the green for now. When is their CES presentation? Edit: looks like they already did their announcement. Going to go long...
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Jan 8, 2020 18:58
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Tesla up to $500 today. Crazy.
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Jan 8, 2020 19:58
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oops itci
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Jan 8, 2020 20:22
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Anyone here actually do work on GME and has a view to share? Not looking for goon biased commentary
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Jan 8, 2020 20:40
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Lote posted:Tesla up to $500 today. Crazy. You see people that buy $120,000 cars are price sensitive to 20 cent a gallon gas price increases.
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Jan 8, 2020 20:42
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Elephanthead posted:You see people that buy $120,000 cars are price sensitive to 20 cent a gallon gas price increases. This but unironically.
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Jan 8, 2020 20:51
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gently caress this Tesla is worth more than GM and Ford? Conflict in Middle East resolved and all is well and we move on? Stonks went up? chaos reigns
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Jan 8, 2020 20:57
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The market is rational
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Jan 8, 2020 20:59
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I’ve been wanting to buy into TSLA for a while. Looks like 500 might be a bit of a ceiling. Hoping for a pull back to 450 to buy in.
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Jan 8, 2020 21:01
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movax posted:gently caress this 
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fougera posted:Anyone here actually do work on GME and has a view to share? Not looking for goon biased commentary There's already enough stuff out there if you care for the quantitative analysis. My not-particularly-helpful opinion is that buying this means that a) you think this business will shrink slower than the market seems to believe (and I am not confident in that, at all) and, if so, b) management won't misinvest the cashflows coming off the dying business (which I am not confident about either, although they have been buying a shitload of stock). It's also in a business that, if you zoom out, won't and shouldn't exist ten years from now. You might make money but GME seems like a classic value trap. I have no position though.
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Jan 8, 2020 21:05
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Don't buy TSLA at $450 Maybe buy TSLA calls ahead of earnings on the theory that whatever financial fuckery they've been up to will not get exposed in the next 30 days.
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Jan 8, 2020 21:43
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lol at buying TSLA at anything about the weed number that elon manipulated it to from $215 in August
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Jan 8, 2020 21:47
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I just don't touch TSLA at all and my quality of life has improved considerably as a direct result of this choice
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Jan 8, 2020 21:49
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I like Tesla but not at any of those prices.
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Jan 8, 2020 23:35
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Approaching $500 now. Is there a program where I could track how well hypothetical short positions would do? I don't want to actually gamble money on options but I do want to get a faint glimmer of the satisfaction that an actual short position would produce if and when this whole thing comes tumbling down. https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1215023882408775681
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Jan 9, 2020 00:06
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That poo poo will run to 550 before it drops
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Jan 9, 2020 00:16
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I have no idea what fantasy has Tesla tumbling down suddenly... they have easy access to capital markets if it gets tight
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Jan 9, 2020 00:26
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greasyhands posted:I have no idea what fantasy has Tesla tumbling down suddenly... they have easy access to capital markets if it gets tight I guess you lack imagination, then. Their price has doubled in the last three months and they've seen plenty of quick corrections in the past. In any case I'm not wagering any actual money on this.
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I meant the company collapsing, not the stock price. There’s a bunch of people barking as if there’s some huge fraud there that no one else has spotted
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greasyhands posted:I meant the company collapsing, not the stock price. There’s a bunch of people barking as if there’s some huge fraud there that no one else has spotted Oh, well, anything is possible. But yeah that's not something I intended to imply was happening.
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i haven’t touched TSLA since I did a long vol trade in the summer of ‘17, might be time for me to go long vol again. The last trade was profitable, but only because I bought both legs of the long vol trade.
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greasyhands posted:I have no idea what fantasy has Tesla tumbling down suddenly... they have easy access to capital markets if it gets tight Q1 air pocket just like last year - channel is fully stuffed in the Netherlands with their tax credit rolloff, US still had some pull forward even with the 1.8K FIT rolloff, no new markets to introduce M3 to 
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hostile apostle posted:Q1 air pocket just like last year - channel is fully stuffed in the Netherlands with their tax credit rolloff, US still had some pull forward even with the 1.8K FIT rolloff, no new markets to introduce M3 to Can you ELI5 whatever this means?
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Tesla is not worthless $0 stock company but it sure as poo poo isn’t worth a valuation that prices in that they will take over the industry over the next twenty years either. Amazon broke everyone’s brains with these crappy zero or super low profit VC money pit companies. They all get hyped up like they will do the same thing. “It’s not just a car company!”yeah it is.
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Jan 9, 2020 04:10
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Yeah, like tesla made 367,500 cars in 2919 ford sold 5.9 million vehicles in 2018, Tesla does not deserve a valuation higher than ford in my opinion.
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Jan 9, 2020 04:32
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but but Elon
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greasyhands posted:I meant the company collapsing, not the stock price. There’s a bunch of people barking as if there’s some huge fraud there that no one else has spotted It's had a weird history, and there WERE times, even by Musk's admission, that the company was on the verge of collapse. My memory's a little hazy but I think the most recent one was late 2018. These days they've raised enough money to withstand some pain, so the bankruptcy risk is more remote. But they still need to start making serious money at some point to justify the valuation. I don't own it but a car company trading at a 42 PE under particularly rosy assumptions is absurd.
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I take Musk saying they were about to collapse about as seriously as I take his other claims-people always selectively believe what he says but Tesla had capital access during those times, it just wouldnt have been pretty. And theyre more than a car company... Waymo is valued at over 100B for comparison. Argue whatever about the valuation but dont compare them to loving ford when they have cars driving themselves around in the wild for millions of miles (edit: Billions) with a better safety record with autopilot on vs off. The market is givin g them plenty of credit for what they are doing, but for whatever reason theres a cadre of haters that clearly dont get the market potential.
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