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Kurieg posted:That Eidolon isn't terrible in a W/X aggro deck. And it lets you do mentor shenanigans too. Pretty sure it's just unplayable trash at a 3 drop. Are you going to play this over Gideon, Legion warboss, or that other 3 spoiled 3 drop that makes things into 4/4s?
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Sickening posted:So nobody else has to watch an unfunny video. I like that the actual equip effect is a baby Loxodon Hammer.
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That thing may as well have a "made in Phyrexia" engraving on it. E: Set after Ikoria is Return to Return to Zendikar, right? Putting my marker down now on Phyrexians vs. Eldrazi in a title fight for "worst extraplanar invasion hellmonsters." Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Jan 8, 2020 |
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Owlbear Camus posted:That thing may as well have a "made in Phyrexia" engraving on it. i feel like after making return to zendikar all about the eldrazi and realizing that was not, in fact, what people liked about zendikar or the themes of the set at all and loudly saying that was a mistake, that Return to Zendikar is going to be super light on the eldrazi if they appear at all evilweasel fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jan 8, 2020 |
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They said it was going to be a return to the original adventure-themed Zendikar and not an Eldrazi apocalypse redux, so probably not.
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I'm all NDA'ed up but I expect people will like it.
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Did Elspeth's original Signature Sword Weapon have that double lightbulb thing going on? Maybe this is just that but she dropped it in ~glistening oil~ and it turned spoopy. Or that's just the underworld mire that other card references.  Or the underworld mire IS phyrexian oil!
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Owlbear Camus posted:That thing may as well have a "made in Phyrexia" engraving on it. Zendikar is the fall set. We have to get through the “Teferi focused” core set first.
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Tainen posted:“Teferi focused” core set first. inagine i posted the shook white lady "the. Whatm" meme here
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Owlbear Camus posted:inagine i posted the shook white lady "the. Whatm" meme here Like how M20 was Chandra themed, supposedly
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Count Bleck posted:I am a simple man 
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:Did Elspeth's original Signature Sword Weapon have that double lightbulb thing going on? Maybe this is just that but she dropped it in ~glistening oil~ and it turned spoopy. Or that's just the underworld mire that other card references. Yes its been there since her first card.
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Bugsy posted:Yes its been there since her first card. Ok, so I'm not imagining things. I started with Not-Egypt so I totally missed the Not-Greece set but I've seen the character here and there.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:Ok, so I'm not imagining things. I started with Not-Egypt so I totally missed the Not-Greece set but I've seen the character here and there. Elspeth affixed her sword to a spear's shaft. I think her sword, like her armor, is from Bant. Star Man fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Jan 8, 2020 |
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Star Man posted:Elspeth affixed her sword to a spear's shaft. I think she her sword, like her armor, is from Bant. Actually, when Elspeth first planeswalked, she walked to Theros, and caught the sword, formally the Sword of Chaos, and then immediately walked away.
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Sunlit Hoplite doesn't seem terrible? Makes me not dislike intropack Elspeth.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:When do we get Return to New Phyrexia "Return to Old Phyrexia"
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Owlbear Camus posted:inagine i posted the shook white lady "the. Whatm" meme here I've thought about it and there's nothing inherently keeping them from making a Teferi-focused set, with multiple Teferi walker cards, without it being the sort of format influenza that his most recent two incarnations have been. Flavor-wise, Teferi's portfolio is time magic and peacekeeping/protection. That doesn't have to translate mechanically into super annoying poo poo; it's only their lack of imagination (or, more cynically, their desire to push Teferi cards) that makes it so. Just off the top of my head, mechanics that could reflect that sort of flavor: Rebound (this wouldn't be a bad keyword mechanic to bring back for a core set, but they could also just do that thing where they functionally reprint it without the keyword) Flicker your own stuff Temporary activated protection or damage prevention for your creatures (for, e.g., an alpha strike) Symmetrical card draw or wheel/timetwister effects (admittedly niche, but see Teferi's Puzzle Box; the fly in the ointment here would be the presence of Narset also in the format, but maybe it's okay to have that for a couple months of super standard) Any mechanic can become too lovely if they push it too hard or if they put it in Standard with the wrong synergists, but on paper all of these avoid the lovely fun-police gameplay patterns that people have come to hate about the last two Constructed playable Teferi cards. In particular, rebound or flickering favor proactive gameplay plans, rather than the prophylactic control to which both Hero of Dominaria and Time Raveler lent themselves. It'd be a change, at least. Even with some of the existing Teferi mechanics, a change in philosophy-- like making Time Raveler's passive symmetrical and giving him a different plus-- could go a long way.
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Tainen posted:Zendikar is the fall set. We have to get through the “Teferi focused” core set first. I think I'm going to take those three months off from Magic. It'll be summer so maybe I'll work out a bit, take a few road trips; and by the time I get back all Tefaris will be banned.
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Phasing would be the perfect mechanic to bring back for this core set
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http://mythicspoiler.com/tbd/cards/nyxbloomancient.html This seems like the epitome of “too much ramp” Note this affects all permanents, not just lands, in case you want to pop your Black Lotus for 9 mana instead of 3, or make anything that can produce more than 1 mana incredibly stupid in general. EDIT: Oh god imagine the size you could get Krasis to with this out, ban all simic cards please the Orb of Zot fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jan 8, 2020 |
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give head or get dead posted:Phasing would be the perfect mechanic to bring back for this core set Bands with other phasing.
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T3 nissa, t4 this and krasis for lots.
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JerryLee posted:I've thought about it and there's nothing inherently keeping them from making a Teferi-focused set, with multiple Teferi walker cards, without it being the sort of format influenza that his most recent two incarnations have been. Even if they did make fair and less annoying planeswalkers, I still have a huge issue with them having multiple Tefaris, Chandras, Vivians, or anyone else in standard. It's too hard to memorize all of them, and even if you read all 12 lines of text every time they come down, it's still easy to forget and confuse them with a similarly named and looking card. They should be disciplined enough that standard only has one planeswalker of each type at a time.
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Give us Teferi’s fart box as an artifact!
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Wizards, you like green a lot, we get it. Enough already.
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berenzen posted:T3 nissa, t4 this and krasis for lots. does this work or are they both replacement effects?
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The Human Crouton posted:Even if they did make fair and less annoying planeswalkers, I still have a huge issue with them having multiple Tefaris, Chandras, Vivians, or anyone else in standard. It's too hard to memorize all of them, and even if you read all 12 lines of text every time they come down, it's still easy to forget and confuse them with a similarly named and looking card. Yeah, I think it's dumb that they need to print a million new variants of each planeswalker, and I also think it was a poor idea to change the planeswalker legendary rule (or, more accurately, make planeswalkers follow the existing legendary rule), but neither of those genies is returning to its bottle anytime soon, or ever. uggy posted:does this work or are they both replacement effects? Just reading the templating, this new card is a replacement effect while Nissa is... I'm not sure if trigger is correct here, but it's not a replacement effect (it doesn't use "instead"). So in theory they stack. I'm not sure what the order of operations is, but frankly at that point it's probably academic. JerryLee fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Jan 8, 2020 |
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Ancient plus Nissa is 4 mana forests.
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Mikujin posted:Ancient plus Nissa is 4 mana forests. Even better: https://twitter.com/nerdtothecore/status/1214994158051610630?s=21
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Speaking of big mana, has a Nykthos reprint been crunched out? That was a leading theory as I recall.
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What is the ruling on order of operations when multiple cards affect the value of something. For example, you just triggered the 3rd phase of that red saga that adds +2 to all red damage. You also have furnace of rath in play. Does a bolt do (3+2)*2 or (3*2)+2? This will be relevant for Nyxbloom+Nissa.
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Uh Excuse me WotC, there is a typo here, this creature is not Legendary. What the gently caress
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You know, it's only relevant for eternal/casual formats, but it just occurred to me that you can Academy Rector for that in Commander or whatever. And Natural Order, Pattern of Rebirth, etc., of course.
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Owlbear Camus posted:Speaking of big mana, has a Nykthos reprint been crunched out? That was a leading theory as I recall. There is one slot between Field of Ruin and Temple of Abandon, once you see card 243 it will either be Nykthos or Nykthos is not in the set.
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Salvor_Hardin posted:What is the ruling on order of operations when multiple cards affect the value of something. For example, you just triggered the 3rd phase of that red saga that adds +2 to all red damage. You also have furnace of rath in play. I don't actually know the answer to that question, but it's not relevant for Nyxbloom/Nissa because Nissa's ability is a trigger. So you tap a Forest, Nyxbloom turns that into GGG, Nissa triggers and gives you one additional G. E: Just looked this up, apparently the player or controller of the thing being dealt damage decides, which is not what I would have guessed. So your opponent would choose to have the bolt do 8 instead of 10. Nibble fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Jan 8, 2020 |
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