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I knew that but only because Sto Cazzo is the name of one of my favorite albums. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgU1xu6Hvv8
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On the topic of vehicles, something I for once noticed that probably no one else did, Bennys? Camaro that's in the S5 finale that Chris gets into once he first goes on the lam, it's featured in an earlier episode too, I think when they pay a visit to feech. It's got IROC decals on it. There was never any such car! The IROC was only an edition for the mullet mobile third gen Camaros. Someone must have added the decals, probably completely unrelated to the show
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codo27 posted:On the topic of vehicles, something I for once noticed that probably no one else did, Bennys? Camaro that's in the S5 finale that Chris gets into once he first goes on the lam, it's featured in an earlier episode too, I think when they pay a visit to feech. It's got IROC decals on it. There was never any such car! The IROC was only an edition for the mullet mobile third gen Camaros. Someone must have added the decals, probably completely unrelated to the show I wonder how many people aside from you have noticed this  I love little observations like that.
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Jan 6, 2020 12:01
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Something got me watching clips the other day and I've been watching a ton of them and as someone who never finished the show (not out of dislike or anything, I probably got distracted by something and forgot to go back), it's amazing at just how laugh out loud the show is like all the time. Somebody, (Phil, I think?) lamenting how his baby brother had his whole life ahead of him as a 47 year old gangster is one of those things you probably shouldnt laugh at given the circumstances but as a viewer you kinda can't help yourself e: also the meme of injecting quotes about Tommy's shinebox into every mafia related video clip comments section is absolutely riotous to me Milo and POTUS fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Jan 8, 2020 |
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Jan 8, 2020 11:03
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I can't decide if SHE WAS ABUSIVE TO THE STAFF or loving QUEERS is the greatest single line in the show
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Jan 8, 2020 11:47
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I can't decide if SHE WAS ABUSIVE TO THE STAFF She must have crawled under there for warmth
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Jan 8, 2020 12:25
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMYQ46-ND6Y this clip was incredible.
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Jan 8, 2020 12:57
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So stupid when you read all these retrospective articles that dumb the show down to "it was who was gonna get whacked this week!". The show was brutal, thoughtful, creepy, funny. It was the antithesis of every mafia power trip you've ever seen. (Love me some King of NY though, watch that poo poo)
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Jan 8, 2020 14:08
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BiggerBoat posted:She must have crawled under there for warmth i must be loyale to my capo
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Jan 8, 2020 14:34
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BiggerBoat posted:She must have crawled under there for warmth Chris has the best lines. *the entire crew sits in stunned silence after hearing of Vito’s gruesome murder at the hands of Fat Dom and Gerry Torciano* “Lovers’ quarrel, maybe?”
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Season 6, Episode 4 - The Fleshy Part of the ThighPaulie Gualtieri posted:My whole life is a joke, a big fuckin' joke on me. Paulie Gualtieri leaves, of all places, a scuba shop with a bag of shopping. Immediately the show cuts from this bizarre and tantalizing set-up to Tony in the hospital, where he's got his voice back and is communicating... or rather, complaining. He grimaces through pain as his nurse changes the dressing on his open incision, telling her he can't get used to the sight of the gaping hole in his stomach. She tells him he won't need to much longer, Dr. Plepler believes he will no longer need access and can close it up in surgery soon. She warns him about not using too much of the morphine as he jabs at the pain-medication button in frustration, and notices him looking at the note on the wall with the Ojibwe saying. She asks who put it there and he complains it must have been his sister Janice, saying he's only left it up because Meadow likes it. He moans that everybody is telling him he should feel lucky to be alive, and she agrees with them, noting that she and rest of the staff gave him extremely low odds of pulling through. He's not done complaining though, asking if she read the papers and saw it was his own uncle who put him through this. But if he thinks he can outdo a nurse with stories about rough times, he's got another think coming. She motions to another patient being wheeled past, a rapper called Da Lux who she says got shot seven times outside of a nightclub. The implication is clear, at least Tony was only shot once AND he's on the mend, though she does sweetly add in that Da Lux still has all his pancreas so Tony is "ahead" in that respect at least. After so long as a non-responsive coma victim, Tony is making up for lost time. He's clearly developed at least a surface-level amicable relationship with the nurse, speaking to her on a first name basis. For the first time, he carefully brings up that he's been feeling "not myself" since he woke up, his thoughts keep getting away from him. If he's looking for answers though he's out of luck, as Fiona calmly tells him these feelings are typical in post-surgery patients and that if he really wants somebody to talk to she'll get him a social worker. Not wanting to talk to a stranger, a disappointed Tony watches as she leaves the room without a backwards look (she's friendly and efficient but she knows not to get involved to the point she's in over her head). Carmela enters shortly afterwards and he immediately hides his glumness, putting on a more cheerful look and thanking her in spite of the fact the only book she could find for him to read was a children's book on dinosaurs. He could be at least partially honest with the nurse, but for his wife he still insists on putting on an act that everything is fine, out of a misguided desire to "protect" her.   As Tony reviews the illustrated book on dinosaurs, Jason Barone is unknowingly walking into the feeding grounds of some primitive carnivores. At one of the waste management sites for Barone Sanitation, the son of the late Dick Barone greets one of the workers who offers his condolences. He's heard Jason intends to sell the company now, which they're sad to hear, but there is no aggression, they all know he has no knowledge of the business and a new owner isn't likely to make any changes. Jason mentions that he's been going through the books and is confused by the fact the second-highest salary is going to one Anthony Soprano. He tried to find his office but it had been turned into a storage space. NOW the worker seems iffy, carefully noting that Tony is a "Consultant" and suggesting that he speak with his colleague Mr. Gaultieri. He points to a picture on a nearby wall of a grumpy looking Paulie holding a plaque honoring him for Excellence in Recyling. Jason DOES recognize the man if not the name, he always knew Mr. Gaultieri as simply Paulie, and belatedly realizes that Anthony Soprano is TONY Soprano. But he doesn't know that name from the media or the whispered rumors, he just remembers him as a friend of the family he hasn't seen since he was a kid. He remains blissfully unaware of exactly what he has actually inherited. At the hospital, Tony is in a foul mood when he's brought dinner in spite of the fact he's having surgery tomorrow, annoyed that his complaint is ignored. Janice and Bobby are sitting up with him, and Janice happily explains how tough things are for her too what with the new baby up all night crying. Tony cracks a remark about the Ojibwe saying and she notices it, and assures him she wasn't the one who put it up there. She takes a call from her nanny, unable to hear her and leaving the room with a complaint about her "language skills". That leaves Tony and Bobby alone, and Tony shoves the tray of food over to Bobby who only hesitates briefly before tucking in. But Tony wants to take this opportunity to vent, and cracks a "joke" about Bobby's "choo-choo" trains at home, leaving it out there unspoken that it is Bobby's fault Tony has ended up in this situation. Bobby is immediately on the defensive, but not with the aggression he showed to the other Captains recently. Instead he quietly tries to remind Tony that he was the one who insisted on looking after Junior that night (not mentioning Tony only did it to make them feel bad, Bobby had actually volunteered). Tony shuts him though, and gives him a warning. He thinks Bobby is an "okay guy", but he can't hide behind being Tony's brother-in-law forever, he has to be judged on his own merit. That this is a completely baseless accusation to make against Bobby, who is conscientious hard-working and who Tony straight up refused to give more street work too when he asked, is irrelevant. Tony has decided to take out his frustrations on Bobby as the most convenient target, and that is that. Bobby quietly leaves the room as Tony jabs at his morphine button. Leaning over in discomfort, he's started by a voice asking him if he's heard the good news. Turning back, he finds Bobby has been replaced by Aaron Arkaway, Janice's narcoleptic ex-boyfriend, standing right there in his room wearing a Terri Schiavo Vigil shirt (because of course he does). He's joined by a, well let's be frank, incredibly creepy looking guy. This is Bob Brewster, the prayer leader for Aaron's group who are downstairs leading a protest movement to get back the job of the hospital pharmacist druggist who refused to fill birth control prescriptions (  ). Brewster declares that they decided to come up and pray with him (whoopie!), and when Brewster sees how frustrated Tony is by the fact his morphine has been cut as the hospital tries to wean him off of it, he sees his in. He explains about the healing power of prayer, telling his own story of how he was addicted to cocaine and strippers until it destroyed his marriage and he crashed his car while driving drunk. That's when he prayed to God and was reborn, and now he sees Tony in similar pain and wants to offer him the same relief. Tony is understandably weirded out by this guy, but before he has a chance to say anything Carmela returns to the room and warmly greets Aaron. She's introduced to Brewster who makes a hell of an assumption and declares they were all about to pray. Carmela of course is all for that, agreeing with Brewster's claim that prayed for patients show a marked decrease in complications from surgery. Before he knows it, Tony finds himself in the middle of an impromptu prayer, as Brewster revels in the opportunity. But once they say their amens, Tony can't help himself and asks what he feels is a pertinent offshoot from their protest over birth-control... what if somebody tries to ban Viagra?  Brewster is bewildered, assuring Tony that would never happen. Carmela watches as Tony continues to play with his food, enjoying this meal since he can't actually eat. Suppressing her own smile, enjoying her husband not only being alive but seemingly very much back to his old personality, she quickly ushers Brewster and Aaron out with a heartfelt thanks for the prayer. Once they're gone, she chides Tony playfully, asking him if he's a wiseass. His surgeon is. During the closure of Tony's incision, Plepler - who believed Tony was as good as dead, remember - gasps and proclaims he's discovered Jimmy Hoffa's body. The surgical team laugh, and they continue on with their work. In a new room out of the ICU, Tony listens as Meadow reads facts out of the dinosaur book. They're soon joined by Paulie, who has brought Jason Barone with him. It's not a surprise meeting, when Jason met with Paulie, Paulie was quick to fill Tony in and prep him for this meeting, and they're ready for their double-act. After they introduce him to Meadow (he is VERY pleased to meet her), they get to talking about a baseball game at Shea Stadium they took him and his father too when he was a boy. The talk of baseball does the desired trick, as a bored Meadow excuses herself and leaves with a kiss to Tony and a warning to Paulie not to wear him out. Once she's gone, Tony and Paulie beam with pride over her career options of Doctor OR Lawyer, then get down to business. Tony quickly establishes that he's aware of plenty, though it's all couched in friendly language that Jason will probably see in a fresh new context by the end of the episode: Tony knows he's a ski instructor, knows where he lives, knows that the person offering to buy the business is Chuckie Cinelli etc. For now, Jason just thinks it's one of his dad's old consultants getting the lay of the land, and quickly assures him there would be a severance package for him once the sale goes through. Tony doesn't reject the idea, he simply lays out that he thinks it would be better to wait before selling: let him get out of hospital, run the numbers, find other potential buyers, get him the best deal etc. Not getting it, Jason says Cinelli's offer was fair, and now the double-teaming begins. Paulie asks if he knows about his EBITDA, overwhelming him with lingo to confuse him before Tony makes another one of those statements that will come back to haunt Jason: "Let me handle this... I don't want to see you get hurt." After Paulie escorts Jason out, he makes another odd journey, bringing with him the bag from the scuba store he went to at the start of the episode. This time he's at a convent of all places, summoned at the behest of his Aunt Dottie, a nun. He's surprised she asked to see him rather than his mother (her sister) but the nun taking him to her explains she was insistent. She also warns that his Aunt doesn't have long left to live. Once in her room, he is mildly unsettled to see her sheets thrown off and her legs exposed up above the knees by her dress. He tries to cover her up, more for his own benefit than her own, but she complains she is burning up and tosses the sheet aside. Clutching her rosary, she tries to talk but he steamrolls over her, showing off the Speedo skin-diver socks he bought for her, knowing she liked the last pair she had. It's actually not an entirely unselfish thing, though of course he makes a point of getting one of the attending nuns to put them on her feet rather than doing it himself. But Dottie doesn't care about the socks, or his warnings about her slipping on the linoleum. She knows her times is almost up too, and she has a confession to make before she goes. She explains she was a bad girl, making him laugh, how could a nun be a bad girl? But he listens in growing horror as she explains that before she took her final vows, she was a novitiate working at a USO show during the War. There she met a man named Russ (Russ Fegoli?!) and got pregnant, and she had a baby. The nun putting her (too small) socks on is shocked, while a surprised Paulie laughs, claims it is the Alzheimers and assures her she didn't have a baby. But she insists that she did... and that it was Paulie. She's his biological mother, and Nucci - who raised him and cared for him his whole life - is biologically his Aunt. Moaning again that she was a bad girl, Paulie is left stunned by the revelation, which in its own way was just as selfish as her "son", even if it was delivered in the desperate need of a dying woman to excise a lifetime's regret. Perhaps it is unfair, but she tells him this when she knows death is near, but it is going to throw Paulie's life into a tornado he'll have to cope with for the rest of his own.   Tony wakes to a pleasant sight, as an attractive female doctor enters his room with a pleasant smile asking how he's doing. Delighted to see her, he does himself no favors by joking about the fact that his other doctors were minorities. She sets him straight though, she's not a doctor, she's a "utilization review specialist", and very quickly his pleasure at seeing her turns to disgust. She works for his Insurance Company, and she's here to do everything in her power to make sure he doesn't get a single cent more from the Insurance he's been paying premiums on for years now unless it's absolutely 100% necessary (and, let's be honest, probably not even then). She doesn't help matters by blaming him when he points out his bowels don't work properly, noting he ate a sausage sandwich on 3/28 (Jesus Christ) and then gets upset at him for being revolted by her, smugly pointing out that if they hadn't found his insurance card during the "wallet biopsy" he would have ended up at County Hospital and would probably be dead now. It was true then and it's true now. The American Healthcare system is an appalling, murderous joke. The words "wallet biopsy" get his attention, and he learns his paramedic went through his wallet in the ambulance as a standard procedure. Disgusted by the terminology, he calls her a "sick oval office" and demands she get out of his room. She's probably more than used to this type of reaction and goes without protest. Later, Carmela helps Tony move tentatively down the hospital corridors with the aid of his IV stand. Just that little walk has him winded (the utilization review specialist has already marked him down as "ambulatory"), and he is happy to take a seat when Carmela is told Doctor Taschlin is on the phone for her. He finds himself seated outside Da Lux's room, where he can't help but overhear the conversation. Da Lux's manager and one of his crew are eagerly explaining that getting shot 7 times has helped enormously with his street credit as a rapper, and his current CD is at #5 in the charts and rising. All Da Lux can concentrate on though is the fact that getting shot REALLY HURTS, and he starts weeping when he thinks he might lose his thumb. Out in the corridor, Tony is disgusted. Elsewhere, a member of Da Lux's crew - Marvin - is working on his rhymes, a beautiful woman hanging on his arm, others gathered around praising his lines. Bobby Baccalieri is getting a drink of water and overhears it, and being the garrulous and happy fellow he is, he asks if he's writing a song because he always wondered how it was done! With tremendous Dad energy he asks if Marvin is somebody his son would have heard of, and Marvin complains that Da Lux was SUPPOSED to be producing his album for a major release this year. Instead, Da Lux got shot and now he's the center of attention, and Marvin is being left by the wayside. They all sit around moping at Marvin's bad fortune at not being the one to get shot 7 times. At Green Grove, Marianucci Gualtieri gets off a bus from a recent trip to Atlantic City. She's delighted to see Paulie, declaring that she won $40 at keno, but he hurts her as he grabs her and hauls her away from the group. He demands to know if she has something to tell him, as if she's been just a hairsbreadth away all these years from spilling the secret if he'd just asked the right question. When she replies with confusion, he reveals that he saw Dottie and learned she is his mother. Nucci immediate looks away, shakes her head and mutters woodenly,"No that's not true", betraying none of the shocked emotion she'd naturally have given if this was complete bullshit. Paulie calls her out on this, warning her not to bullshit him like she has his entire life. She hangs her head in shame and he moans as his last hope is destroyed, it really is true. Nucci sighs that she dreaded this day, but Paulie isn't interested, he wants to vent. He accuses her of being a liar, but of Dottie as being worse, because the nun who apparently had sex with one person in her entire life is, as he so charmingly puts it, "a fuckin' whore!" Nucci comes to her sister's defense, saying Dottie was young and made a mistake, and while she might not be Paulie's biological mother she always loved him like she was. But he doesn't want to hear it, and storms off as she calls out after him. While Paulie's life is falling apart, Bobby is making a plan to improve his. Smoking a cigar outside the hospital, he's no longer the affable suburban dad with a model train, but the giant mobster who regularly collects money hapless gamblers and intimidated shopkeepers. Marvin steps outside and Bobby, who has been waiting for his inevitable exit, catches his attention by declaring he knows the solution to Marvin's problem... he needs to get shot. Marvin has no idea how to react, who the hell is this dude? Bobby smiles and smokes, pointing out that getting shot would probably raise Marvin's credit with "Ex Lax". As he is a marksman, he could help out by making sure he was shot "safely", in the fleshy part of the thigh perhaps. Marvin walks away declaring Bobby is crazy, but Bobby doesn't follow or try to make any further case. He's set the bait, now he just has to wait for Marvin to take it.   While Tony is now well out of the woods, the Captains are all present once again in the hospital waiting room. Christopher, Patsy, Vito and Silvio (puffing on his inhaler) are all present, and Paulie arrives not long after. As he steps out of the lift, Father Intintola calls out to him to cheerfully ask how Tony is doing, and Paulie snarls at him he's in a lot better shape than "those fuckin' nuns you got up there!" and storms out leaving Father Intintola stunned in his wake. Paulie heads in to Tony's room and the reason for all the Captains being present becomes clear, as he informs him Phil Leotardo is waiting downstairs to see him. Tony is somewhat distracted by a re-run of Kung Fu on the screen, but tells Paulie not to bring Phil upstairs, instead he wants to go down to see him. Paulie helps him up out of the bed, but walks too fast as they move down the corridor, almost causing Tony to spill over along with his IV stand. They pause in the doorway of Tony's neighbor, and Tony apologizes if his snoring kept him up. The patient, played by Hal Holbrook jokes back that he was farting so loud it might have kept Tony up. Tony appreciates this and they introduce each other, he's John Schwinn, who used to work at Bell Labs, who came in for a sinus infection but is now getting more treatment because they "saw something they didn't like". Da Lux is rolled by on his bed and motions for them to stop so he can talk. Tony thanks him for giving AJ a copy of his CD, and Da Lux thumps his chest as a mark of respect to Tony for being an "OG." Tony, who was there when Da Lux was weeping over getting shot, isn't overly impressed by this acknowledgement, and gives a non-committal shrug when Da Lux invites him (and by extension, Schwinn) to his room tonight to watch the boxing PPV on his satellite hook-up. With that pleasantness behind him, Tony has to brace himself for the meeting with Phil. Though they've worked well together since Johnny Sack's arrest, the tension over Tony B/Billy always hangs over their head. Tony knows the importance of putting up a good front though, which is why he came down under his own power rather than let Phil see him laid up in a hospital bed. He plays the respect angle first, noting that his biggest issue with Cinelli's bid for Barone Sanitation is that they didn't even give Tony a courtesy call first. Phil points out not incorrectly that Tony was in a coma, but Tony knows that is just an excuse for trying to slip in while he was incapacitated. So Phil moves to his next gambit, sympathy AND passing the buck: this is all being pushed by Johnny Sack who is panicky because the Federal Government is trying to take all his assets. Tony, putting out his nearly fresh cigar on the nearby bin to give him an excuse for propping himself up physically, agrees that Johnny is in a tough situation and makes an apparent concession so he can get what he really wants. Sure Barone Sanitation can be sold, he has no issue with that... provided he's kept on as a consultant. He needs the W-2 as Barone is his secondary insurance carrier. Phil assures him that no matter what John was always going to take care of him, but what Tony is asking in addition to that is too much: 25% of the sale price AND a year's salary till retirement PLUS skim? Tony, who of course asked for the world so his REAL offer could seem more reasonable, agrees to give John a break on the skim and starts crunching numbers, asking Paulie how many garbage stops they base his current $2000 a week skim on? Paulie is distracted and a grumpy Tony snaps him back to attention, and is furious when Paulie gives the ACTUAL number of 11 rather than the 25 he wanted him to say. Paulie quickly switches up before walking away to take a call, but now Tony's play has been damaged. His offers of a "lower" number of 20 stop making $1500 a week now looks too high, especially with Tony staying on the payroll. Phil beams his too-perfect teeth and reminds Tony that all he can do is pass on the message, making it as clear as he can that he has no personal stake one way or the other. But once he's gone, Tony knows the negotiation stumbled at the last hurdle, all their posturing and back-and-forth was stymied by Paulie giving the wrong number. As they ride back up in the lift he demands to know what Paulie's problem is, and is startled when Paulie informs him the phone-call he got was about his Aunt Dottie: she just died. Tony finds his temper tantrum undercut, he offers his sympathy instead of a dressing down. But while he is offering all the right words, he can't know they're just cutting deeper as he asks about how his mom is taking it, brings up his brother and sister coming into town for the funeral etc. As they walk slowly back down the corridor, Tony finds himself curious and starts asking questions about nuns, but senses Paulie's own growing temper and asks if he doesn't want to talk about it. Paulie doesn't, so Tony stops asking... for about 5 seconds before his curiosity again gets the better of him and he asks if nuns are really "married" to Jesus.  Back in his room, Chris is waiting, but not for an update on the Barone negotiations. He and an enforcer have a paramedic with them, the one who was with Tony in the ambulance the night he was shot and probably saved his life. But Tony hasn't arranged for him to be there so he can thank him. Instead he accuses him of lifting 2k from his wallet that night in the ambulance, Christopher informing Rudy Diaz that he has a week to pay it back or HE will need a paramedic. Carmela enters the room in the middle of this tense standoff with AJ in tow, and everybody but Rudy turns and offers her a broad smile. Tony thanks the paramedic for coming to "visit" and assures him he'll see him next week, and they escort him out. Carmela warns Tony that all this activity is going to be taxing on him and he needs his rest, but he's more interested in the fact that Carmela and AJ came together and are apparently talking again. AJ notes that Carmela apologized to him, and she in turn is happy about the fact that instead of lazing around at home after dropping out of Community College he has gotten himself a job at Blockbuster Video (a job with a future!). That night in Da Lux's room, Tony, Paulie and Schwinn are watching the boxing match along with Da Lux's family and some of his entourage, one of whom has the thankless job of trying to hold the satellite dish steady out the window. Tony is amused to learn that Da Lux made his bet on the fight via an online website, noting that Paulie would have gotten him better odds. Paulie is distracted by thoughts of the dead aunt who turned out to be a dead mother, and when Tony finally does get him talking he doesn't like what he hears. Paulie complains that you might think you have family but they'll abandon you too, and a life of abuse isn't just what boxers go through but all of them. Each and every one of them are alone in the ring fighting for their lives. Schwinn disagrees, and takes very little prompting to tell them all his theory about how each and every one of them are all part of the same quantum field, and that we only percieve ourselves as separate entities. "Everything is everything?" muses Da Lux, who is played by Lord Jamar from Brand Nubian, and has good reason to be intrigued. Tony laughs it off, especially when Paulie's "joke" that Schwinn fix the bad satellite reception turns out not be a joke and an amused Schwinn hobbles over to take a look. But left alone with his own thoughts, he can't help but consider Schwinn's theory. After the confusion of the Kevin Finnerty dream he doesn't entirely (consciously) remember, and the un-tethered sense of unreality after surviving an experience that should have killed him, Tony can't help but see some value in Schwinn's idea that we are all just molecules in the soup of the universe, bumping up against each other. Phil visits with Johnny, who is smoking up a storm and quick to anger when he learns that Tony is upset about his health insurance. His voice raises to a yell as he shouts about how he's facing the loss of everything including his liberty while Tony only selfishly thinks of himself. Phil though doesn't react, just keeps a calm face and lets Johnny burn himself out: after all, right now Johnny is the lightning rod that Junior Soprano once was for Tony. Not just with the FBI, but with the other mobsters: every unpopular decision can be Johnny's, every popular decision can be his own. He currently has all the power, but is free to push everything off on Johnny as and when he has to/wants to. So he simply lets Johnny rant, and then listens as Johnny calms himself and offers a counter-proposal in the shape of a fait accompli: the sale will happen, Tony will keep his consultant position for two years along with the health insurance, he'll get 5% of the sale price.... and they'll lease him a new car! Paulie brings Tony the counter in his hospital room at night, where Christopher is also present. Tony is infuriated by it, roaring hoarsely that he told Phil he needed the W-2 in perpetuity. He accuses Johnny of trying to take advantage of his weakened state, unknowingly echoing Johnny's own complaints. Snarling, Tony demands Paulie find Jason and make him understand his obligation, and Paulie is happy to agree... until Tony, too worked up, vomits up his dinner over the floor.   Jason, completely clueless about the mess he inherited, heads down to the river the next day to row. Completing his session, he pulls up to the dock and is securing his rowboat when Paulie and Patsy arrive and get uncomfortably close. Confused, he asks what they're doing there, and a seething Paulie explains that since he's determined to go through with the sale against their advice they've come to make a few things clear. They intend to be taken care of, and since Johnny Sack can't be relied on, the money will have to come out of Jason's end. Jason hasn't got a clue what they're talking about, assuring them he'll honor the contract provisions but having no idea who Johnny Sack is. Paulie has no time for this though, and his next threats even Jason is finally able to understand, as he warns him that a ski instructor really doesn't want to be lacking knees if he wants to keep his career going. Having got the message, Jason makes a quick visit to the golf course to meet with Mr. Cinelli, who is unsympathetic to his plight. They shook hands and as far as he is concerned that means a deal is a deal. That's not even remotely legally binding but Jason is quickly picking up on the fact that legality may not actually mean anything in the business he inherited from his father. Jason tries to negotiate, saying that lifetime employees want compensation and he's hoping Cinelli will incorporate that into his deal. Cinelli immediately guesses that means Tony Soprano, and puts his answer in no uncertain terms: "gently caress that and gently caress him. He's your problem." Jason is temporarily distracted by his mother happily calling out to him from the clubhouse that she's going to the buffet table, and when he turns back Cinelli is already ready to move on. Jason complains that he'll lose money on the sale if he gives Tony what he wants but again, Cinelli doesn't care. When Jason desperately tries to play hardball and insist that the sale is off, Cinelli pokes him with his golf club and lays out yet another bottom line: the deal is done, the Barone routes are not Cinelli routes, and that's the end of that.
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That night Tony stands in the corridor staring through into the ICU into what was probably once his room, where a little girl with 3rd degree burns on 80% of her body is being looked after. Always one to empathize with children and animals (they're simple and easy to understand, and more importantly non-judgemental), he points her out to Paulie when he arrives and is pissed when Paulie instead complains about the week HE is having. Paulie apologizes but that's not enough, not this time. There's no more distractions, so Tony demands an answer for why Paulie has been acting so odd. He comes clean at last, but not before making it clear he intends this to be between them only. He tells him about Dottie and Russ, about Nucci adopting him to hide the family shame, about how it has thrown him for a loop and he doesn't even know WHO he is anymore. He despairs that his whole life is a joke on him, and Tony - laughing at first over the idea of a nun being Paulie's mother - quickly takes it more seriously, seeing that this has genuinely affected his old friend. Another family trauma happens the next morning. A Barone Sanitation driver is enjoying a rare bonding opportunity with his young son, taking him on his route with him during school vacation. His son is loving it, asking if he can come along every day, but the driver insists he must go back to school once the holidays are over. They arrive at his next stop, and the driver is surprised to see another truck is already there... a Cinelli truck. He gets out and approaches to ask what is going on, and the driver of the other truck - a hulking bald man - informs him that it is not his route anymore. The Barone driver is confused, saying this has been his route for 5 years, and the Cinelli driver snarls that he's a stupid gently caress and signals to his partner who approaches with a stick. Seeing discretion is the better part of valor, the Barone driver turns to leave, but takes a whack across the back of the head. His partner immediately legs it, racing off down the street and leaving the Barone driver to take a beating from the two Cinelli men, while his young son screams for his father. He races to his side as the Cinelli truck leaves, their message sent.  Tony sleeps, the Ojibwe saying left on the tray beside his bed now, seemingly always getting closer to him. At Green Grove, Nucci places a small photo of Dottie on her bedroom mirror when a thump at the door announces the arrival of Paulie. She tries to greet him breezily, then finds herself in the odd position of chiding him like a mother while simultaneously saying it's a sin that he didn't attend "your mother's funeral". Paulie growls that she was some mother, noting that even rats don't abandon their own children. This upsets Nucci of course, but she also reveals a little of her own judgmental nature that probably lead to this situation in the first place, as she claims Dottie is going to have to face Saint Peter with the "stain" of having a child out of wedlock on her soul. Paulie takes it far further though, saying he hopes she rots in hell, before turning on her as he ludicrously declares that Nucci obviously saw him as her meal ticket. He points out all the fine things he has brought her, including this suite at Green Grove, as if somehow this was her nefarious plot 60 odd years ago when Dottie got pregnant: that she somehow knew Paulie would end up with plenty of money and she could take advantage of it. He rages that now her REAL children can pay for it all, casting himself as the woeful hero who went without so she could have, as if he hasn't been living it up without restraint ever since he got involved in the mob. Spotting her flatscreen television, he tears it from its stand and hurls it out the window. Turning on Nucci, he jabs a finger at her and warns her that he never wants to see her again, then leaves her alone weeping in her bedroom. She just lost her sister, now she's lost her son (and yes, make no mistake, he's absolutely 100% her son regardless of biology). The next day, Jason visits Tony in the hospital to try desperately to make his case, despairing over the fact that no matter which way things go he is looking to lose money on the sale of a business that should belong solely to him and be at his discretion to do with as he sees fit. Tony of course is angry with him, reminding him he warned him it was a "different corporate culture", complaining that he shouldn't have tried to sell without talking to Tony first. Jason finally loses his temper, he's lived a completely clean and law abiding life and is fed up with mobsters talking down to him for not knowing the ins-and-outs of a business they and his father kept completely hidden from him. But they don't take that as an excuse, actually going so far as to blame him for the driver who got beaten, twisting the knife by pointing out his poor son had to watch.... and now it's all over the media too! When Jason complains it isn't fair, Tony glares at him with contempt, pointing out that Paulie (oh yeah, and the Katrina victims) could tell Jason a thing or two about life being unfair. "You're worse than my son!" Tony spits, without actually grasping that Dick Barone's faults are the exact same faults Tony has with AJ: they both wanted the illusion of being respectable businessmen while leaving their sons woefully unprepared for the reality of anything to do with their actual businesses. He demands Paulie get Jason out of there, and in the corridor Jason again complains that he shouldn't be blamed for his parents keeping him in the dark about the nature of their business. That just enrages Paulie, troubled by his own family issues, and he yells at him for not having a family that communicates with each other!   Marvin has taken the bait. Joining Bobby in his car, he hands over a sack of money and reminds him that he promised to get him in the fleshy part of the thigh. Bobby, an expert on counting money quickly, notes there is only 7k and not the 8 that they agreed on, and Marvin points out he could get his little brother to do it for way cheaper. Bobby sniffs at the idea, for something like this you need to go outside of the family... this way he can blame it on "Dr. Droop"! But the 7k is all Marvin can give him, and a frustrated Bobby agrees. Before Marvin leaves, he asks Bobby to make sure he doesn't see it coming, he doesn't want to anticipate it. Christopher sits up with Tony the next day as Tony reads his dinosaur book, marveling over the fact that human beings have been on the Earth for such a tiny fraction of its existence. He's pleased to see Hesh and his daughter Beth arrive, greeting them warmly, Hesh remarking on how robust he's doing. They briefly discuss Beth's husband Eli, recovering from his own beating and hit-and-run, he's up and using a walker now thanks to the physical therapy he has been getting. The happy meeting is disrupted though by the sudden return of Pastor Bob Brewster, who walks in with a big smile even as he asks if it is okay to visit. The point is to use social niceties to guarantee his welcome, but he's an intruder hiding behind a too wide smile, interjecting himself into warm gathering. Tony introduces everybody, and still in a good mood he turns on the charm, laughing that maybe there is something to praying after all since he is feeling so much better. He also appreciates the gift that Brewster has brought him, a book by Charles Colson. It plays into both their interests, Colson was a key figure in the Watergate scandal, but also became a Born Again Christian after being sent to jail for it. Brewster points out how Colson was rich and powerful but lost everything, and was only saved through Christ. Tony senses that he's the obvious target of this speech and warily asks what Brewster's point is, but the Pastor has managed to find a rare vulnerable point to strike: he mentions that being saved isn't just about not going to hell when you die, but being saved from yourself while you're still alive. You know, like therapy is meant to do if you actually engage with it in good faith. Tony can't help but consider, as always looking for a quick answer to solve his problems without having to do anything, but also looking for an answer to the ennui he's been feeling since coming out of the coma. To the quiet surprise of Christopher, Hesh and Beth, Tony agrees that maybe he will attend one of Pastor Bob's prayer meetings when he gets out. Has the weird creepy guy managed to find a way past the defenses that Melfi, Father Intintola and even Carmela have failed to? And then he fucks it all up by noticing the dinosaur book. Picking it up with an amused grunt, Pastor Bob points out how his kids love dinosaurs. Tony smiles, he does too, and cracks a joke about King Kong kicking their asses in the original film. Bob smiles, looks at the book lovingly... and then happily explains about how ridiculous it is that scientists say dinosaurs existed millions of years ago when the Earth is only 6000 years old and dinosaurs and humans co-existed. Tony is incredulous, pointing out carbon dating and scientific consensus, but Pastor Bob confidently declares they're all just part of an Agenda and Satan's plan to teach Evolution. Worst of all, when Tony points out Schwinn next door would probably disagree, Brewster has no issue with simply stating that in that case Schwinn isn't saved: there can be no salvation if you believe in evolution. He leaves with a promise to come back and discuss Colson later and a distracted Tony mutters something nice but non-committal. Once he's gone, Chris is amused and still not quite in belief, pointing out that the Garden of Eden wouldn't be paradise if Adam and Eve were constantly running away from a T-Rex. Beth, trying to be nice, points out that Evangelicals might have their issues but they've always been good to the Jews since Israel is the Holy Land. Hesh, older and a lot wiser, simply warns,"You wait."   Later, Vito helps Tony on one of his walks, and he spots Schwinn reading a magazine on the edge of his bed. He pops in for a chat while Vito uses the bathroom, and they get back onto the subject of everything being part of a greater whole, Tony quoting the Ojibwe saying. Schwinn is curious to why Tony is so fascinated, and he admits that while he doesn't remember anything while in his coma, he does have a sense that before he regained consciousness he was being pulled towards.... something... and it isn't something he wants to go back to. Carmela told him about the time he woke and asked who he was and where he was going, and it has gotten him thinking about what will happen to when when he dies... maybe he will go to Hell? Schwinn reminds him that Heaven and Hell is again pre-supposing duality and separate/opposing entities and he already knows his thoughts on that subject. Trying to lighten the mood, Tony jokes about how Paster Bob thinks Schwinn is going to Hell. He immediately realizes he has put his foot in his mouth when Schwinn informs him he just learned that his test results came back positive for Laryngeal cancer. Aghast, Tony apologizes, and Schwinn tries to make a joke of it, saying that Tony could "whack him". But when he sees Tony's face go blank in a mixture of shock and distaste, he immediately offers his own apology for the bad taste joke. Tony offers a genuine smile back, for once willing to forgive somebody for making an error of judgement in a stressful situation. Tired of waiting for Vito to finish in the bathroom, Tony returns to his own room where he finds Paulie waiting. He returns to his seat and broaches a difficult subject, he heard from Little Paulie that Paulie didn't attend Dottie's funeral. Paulie claims to have no regrets on that front, and insists that on top of that he's cutting off his coverage of Nucci's fees to live in Green Grove. He's not going to pay out $4000 a month for her to live in luxury, and when Tony jokingly asks if he means to see her out on the street Paulie claims it would serve her right. Tony has been willing to let things ride so far, but this a step too far for me. Grumpily he points out that Nucci fed him, clothed him, loved him, looked out for him, bailed him out of prison time and again when he was a kid etc. Paulie considers briefly, then notes that the real problem isn't Nucci but Dottie. Overstepping himself, he brings up Livia and Tony's defenses are IMMEDIATELY up at the mention of his mother. Paulie can't help himself now that he's started now, and he notes that for all the faults she might have had, Livia never abandoned Tony. Pissed off, wanting to lash out, Tony cobbles together parts of the Ojibwe saying and Schwinn's philosophy to lambast Paulie for being so short-sighted, while throwing in a(n un)healthy dose of,"Besides I have it much worse!" as he points out Paulie has his health and can walk and eat unassisted. While Tony is tearing into Paulie, Marvin is collecting an order of fast food from Fancy Burgers. Approaching his car, a gunshot rings out and he drops to his knees in agony as his girlfriend screams. She races out of the car to his side, as Marvin grabs at a bloody bullethole well above the fleshy part of the thigh, screaming out words that probably won't make it into his next song,"My rear end! They shot me in my rear end!"  Carmela ponders something that has been worrying her since Tony came out of the coma, while Tony lies in his hospital bed thinking about the delicious food he intends to eat once he's out and able. Carmela finally says what's on her mind: the package from Vito and Paulie, she's sure there was more to it than what they got. Tony, who has always understood there has to be at least a little skimming/holding back, agrees she is probably right but so what? But for once it isn't the money that Carmela is interested in, it's the fact they held it back. She warns him in one of her few ventures into his other world, he needs to keep an eye out... especially on Vito. For once Tony doesn't snap at her or shut down when she steps into this dangerous territory, because he knows she is right. A knock on the door signals the return of the utilization review specialist, who gets a pleasant greeting from an unknowing Carmela and a sarcastic one from Tony. Keeping it short and to the point, she rushes through her assessment that everything that can be done in the hospital has beendoneandhecangohome. She tries to leave quickly as Carmela worriedly asks if that isn't too soon and Tony laughs that she doesn't give a poo poo anyway, it's all about money. But he doesn't let her go before asking her if she at least knows anything about how Schwinn's surgery went. Disinterested, she mutters that he had his larynx removed, then heads out the door. This more than anything hits Tony hard, even if they got all the cancer, a man like Schwinn losing his ability to talk is a travesty. Later that night, Tony is channel surfing when Paulie returns with Helen Barone. He's pleased to see her, while she is far too friendly and eager to please, almost desperate. She brought baked zucchini and is deeply apologetic when Paulie warns her that he can't eat that. Tony, at the moment only thinking of her in terms of being a widow to his old partner Dick, and assures her that he appreciates the thought. She explains Jason finally told her about the problems with the sale, and at first Tony assumes she's just come to test the waters. But as they continue their conversation, it becomes more and more apparent that she's here because she is utterly terrified that Tony is going to kill Jason, and in fact is going so far as to suggest that if somebody needs to be killed over this it should be her. As a shocked Tony tries again and again to assure her that nothing like that is going to happen, Paulie becomes overcome with emotion to see a mother willing to go so far for her son. Is he thinking it is unfair that Dottie never did this for him, or is he remembering how Nucci did? In any case, he has to leave the room, sobbing quietly outside in the corridor. The next day, preparations are being made for Tony's exit. As he finally dresses in regular clothes, a beaming Bobby enters his room and hands over a stuffed envelope of cash, proclaiming it has been an especially good week. Tony considers this briefly then takes the envelope with a quiet, judgmental,"Good" that says it all: it is good so long as it continues. With everything packed up, Tony is put into a wheelchair per hospital regulations and wheeled down the corridor with Carmela, Silvio, Christopher, Vito, Meadow and Janice in tow. Silvio's stay was only overnight and he was thrilled to get out, so he can't imagine how happy Tony feels. As they go, Tony briefly stops them as they get to Schwinn's room. He seems the bright man sleeping in his bed, tubes plugged into his throat where they removed his larynx. A dignified looking woman sits beside the bed, presumably his wife, and Christopher quietly asks if he wants to go inside. Not wanting this to be his last memory of the man, Tony simply says no, and they continue on. On the ground floor, the paramedic is waiting with an envelope of cash, determined for Tony to get it before he leaves so he can put this horror behind him. Christopher is annoyed at him for trying to do it in public, but Tony calls him off and says they're just going to go, ignoring the paramedic and his cash. They leave the hospital, the confused but lucky man gifted the "luxury" of not being extorted or beaten for saving Tony's life. Outside, Tony smells the fresh air and takes in the sights and sounds of the city. Traffic, bird noise, people walking and talking and laughing and going about their lives. He's been removed from it for too long, and he was almost removed from it forever. As Janice prepares to leave to get her car and follow them home, Tony grabs her by the hand. He explains that he should be dead, but he's alive... he's the luckiest man in the whole world. Is this why he spared the paramedic? Is this a new leaf for Tony even if Brewster did blow his chance at getting Tony into praying? He tells Janice that from now on every day is a gift. Janice, so often keen to force her latest new age insight or religious zeal on everybody else, feels deeply uncomfortable with her brother doing the same and forces a smile before heading off to get the car. Back at home, Tony returns to pajamas and bedrest, he's still convalescing even if he is home now. Carmela comes up to see him, letting him know Phil Leotardo is here to see him and warning him he can't take more than 10 minutes since he needs his rest. As she leaves, Tony calls her back, telling her with genuine love that she is the reason he's alive and back home. She replies it is far from just her, but then smiles and thanks him for saying so regardless, and gives him a kiss to show her appreciation. She feared she wouldn't get her Tony back, but for now it seems the Tony she got back is even better.   Phil greets Tony who puts on music to mask their conversation if there are any bugs. It seems that the beating of the driver (and more importantly, the media attention) was enough to bring Phil to the table with a more substantial counter offer. Tony can keep his annual paycheck and his W-2 for 10 years, and they will replace the skim with a one-time payment by jacking up his share of the sale price to 12%. Tony frowns at the thought of no more skim, but while the share is half what he wanted (and knew he couldn't get) it is more than twice what Johnny had offered (and knew Tony wouldn't take), plus his secondary health insurance is covered for another decade. Scratching his head, he declares that there is enough garbage for everybody, and shakes a relieved Phil's hand to mark the deal made. Phil tells him to be well, sounding surprisingly genuine, and makes his exit. Tony lies in bed, considering the deal, trying to figure the angles, then finally shrugs: it's a good deal, for everybody. With a grunt he rolls up out of the bed and makes his way out past a lounge full of laughing, happy people. Exiting to the backyard, he makes his way to the pool and settles into a deckchair. He lets the gentle breeze wash over him, looking up at the trees, considering once more that Ojibwe saying left by a mystery person. As Tony enjoys the gift of his life, Jason enjoys his freedom. Young, fit and free of the obligations he was shackled with by his father's death, he carries his rowboat down to the river again. Yes Tony's cut means he won't be making out quite as well as his initial deal with Cinelli made it seem, but he's also not on the hook for Tony's salary/W-2 either. He and his mother have sold the business, got their share of the money and they're finally free of the mob influence Jason lived his entire life unaware existed. Yes, life is goo- Paulie caves in the back of his knee with a lead pipe. Lying on the ground, he screams in agony as Paulie gives him another whack. "Guess what, fuckin' mama's boy!" an irate Paulie yells at him,"You're kicking up four grand to me every month!" Yes, Paulie has decided that he will continue to cover Nucci's suite at Green Grove... or rather, that Jason is going to pay him to do it. She may not biologically be his mother, but she was his mother, and he'll fulfill the obligation while doing what he can to avoid having to pay out any of his own money. He pulls out a gun and points it at the terrified Jason, letting him know that if he ever breathes a word of this to Tony he'll stick the gun up his rear end and pull the trigger till the bullets come out of his eyes. He gives Jason another kick for good measure and storms off. Jason is left crying in pain as Paulie strides away, a victim of his father's sins who has done literally nothing wrong himself. In his backyard Tony lets the serenity wash over him, content and happy in his second chance at life while all around him people caught up in his circle, even unknowingly, continue to suffer enormously.  Church bells ring in the background, but this isn't a call to prayer any of our main cast will answer. Why would they? God already answered their prayers. Season 6: Members Only | Join the Club | Mayham | The Fleshy Part of the Thigh | Mr. & Mrs. John Sacrimoni Request... | Live Free or Die | Luxury Lounge | Johnny Cakes | The Ride | Moe n' Joe | Cold Stones | Kaisha Season 1 | Season 2 | Season 3 | Season 4 | Season 5 | Season 6.1 | Season 6.2 Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Apr 23, 2020 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I can't decide if SHE WAS ABUSIVE TO THE STAFF Chinks did this?
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Vichan posted:Chinks did this? What, like the Flintstones?
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Jan 8, 2020 17:28
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"Whatever happened to Gary Cooper?" "...he died."
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I've mentioned it before but I'm pretty certain that in a fan poll the top two answers would be MOTHERFUCKING GODDAMN ORANGE PEEL BEEF and SHE WAS ABUSIVE TO THE STAFF. Not sure which would come out on top though.
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Louis de whatever's finance minister. Duh something. e: It's the jacketttttttt would rate highly as well
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Jan 8, 2020 23:49
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Good Lord, that was an excellent writeup. I tell you, I have seen all 86 episodes at least five times, and many of them more than that. But every single one is always better now if I first read your writeup for it. Bravo!
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I can't decide if SHE WAS ABUSIVE TO THE STAFF I’m certain I’ve asked myself this very same question and I gave the nod to ABUSIVE. Thinking about it now, I would put paulie’s “your hair was in the toilet water. Disgusting.” line second, with honorable mention to “they left all the American cars!”
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The power dynamics in the negotiations between Tony and Phil are really fascinating, as is Phil's complete assurance/confidence when he reports back to Johnny (nicely contrasted with Paulie being distracted/unhelpful with Tony). Phil at this point in the show really is walking the walk, he told Vito earlier that he'd had to put aside his personal animosity towards Tony and right now I genuinely believe he's staying true to that ideal. It makes where things end up all the more interesting, and if I recall correctly it is next episode where the cracks first start to form, and it all stems from Phil's incredibly hosed up and toxic concept of masculinity. On an unrelated note, after criticizing the cinematography in the show as being mostly just serviceable, there are some really beautifully framed shots in this episode, especially when Tony is standing outside the ICU staring in at that little girl.
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I always thought the parallels between Tony's and Phil's arcs were pretty interesting. Though separated by quite a bit of time in most cases, each of them: 1) becomes defacto Boss while the guy above them becomes a lightning rod for the FBI 2) has a major health scare that causes them to rethink things and decide to be better 3) this last for a short amount of time in each case, after which both of them are bigger bastards than ever before and half of this last one is a matter of conjecture of course, but 4) is murdered in front of their family
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Phil spent years in jail, Tony managed to stay free, so it's interesting to see they both end up in the same place (head of their respective Families) and are so similar in terms of temperament: they're smart and can think long term, but they're also prone to violent outbursts and let their desire for short term gratification get the best of them and have to scramble to fix their own messes, complaining all the while. It's no wonder they were constantly butting heads.
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"He was gay, Gary Cooper?" "Nooooo!"
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Who the gently caress was the creepy priest who shows up with the narcoleptic when Tony is in the hospital? He's not listed on IMDb for the episode. I seen that guy in something else before
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Rob Devaney, he's only been in a handful of things.
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"As Tony reviews the illustrated book on dinosaurs, Jason Barone is unknowingly walking into the feeding grounds of some primitive carnivores. " I love these little connections you make. Great analysis of the symbolism. The line about the healing power of prayer is, I believe, a reference to a media study that came out around the time of this episode, that stated prayer does NOT help. escape artist fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Jan 9, 2020 |
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If I remember right, prayer actually decreased survival according to the study, although I’m fairly sure the study was more recent than the last season of The Sopranos. e: I love ‘Nobody’s got AIDS! I don’t wanna hear that word in here again.’
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I love Christopher's logic about the dinosaurs, it is hilarious and weirdly intelligent, considering he is talking about the garden of eden as a real place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQxuuCt_cLQ&t=73s
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Man, Jerus, them updates is what I needed in my life. Tots explains what was missing over the holidays xD And for me, it's gotta be... "THE JAAAACKET" Pretty sure me and the wifey bat that one around at each other at least 3 times a year
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How are you all forgetting gently caress YOU SANTA!
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Torquemada posted:If I remember right, prayer actually decreased survival according to the study, although I’m fairly sure the study was more recent than the last season of The Sopranos. I could see that since a decent proportion of those types might be all "god will save me" and refuse treatment. I just finished reading a Prince biography and his ex was pissed with him for what happened with their baby where Prince repeatedly told her to leave it up to God. Baby died after a few days and was born with Pfieffer Syndrome (I think) Also... I could write my memoirs... (on Vito's kids) Yeah, they didn't do nothin. You're droppin' your oranges Christ gets the best lines
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I want a fuckin' answer. What's so fuckin' hilarious, you fuckin' parade float?
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Chris' best line is probably "his place looked like poo poo" from Pine Barrens.
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Basebf555 posted:Chris' best line is probably "his place looked like poo poo" from Pine Barrens. Yeah that one’s amazing.
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Basebf555 posted:Chris' best line is probably "his place looked like poo poo" from Pine Barrens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhDq-70caV0
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It's not just one line, but the entire conversation in "Second Opinion" when Carmela is having a cigarette outside while calling Dr. Krakower surreptitiously. She hears Tony coming and quickly ends the phone call and pitches the cigarette just as he comes out in his bathrobe with a carton of orange juice. Tony - Who you on the phone with? Carmela - Pavers, I was thinking about having the driveway redone. Tony - You smokin'? Carmela - What is this, the third degree? Tony - (pointing to the carton) This says "With Pulp" Carmela - You like pulp. Tony - Yeah, but not this much. I only like it when it says "Some Pulp" And she throws the loving phone at him. If you think about it, that means that Tony, in his bathrobe holding the orange juice, went through every room in the house looking for Carmela, finally finding her outside in the driveway. EDIT: It's also difficult trying to decide Edie Falco's best line reading. I've always loved "We'll decorate the entire house with MUMS!" but I have to insist that her defeated "Marco" after being thrown in the pool in "Marco Polo" takes the cannoli. Pope Corky the IX fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Jan 9, 2020 |
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If we're doing full scenes now I nominate Sil's freakout about cheese https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-LYLRK2Y38 To comment on the write up a little: I think this episode cements the idea that nobody changes and that most changes happen TO us. Did any of us buy this an epiphany from Tony that "every day is a gift"? How many times has he said he's changed? I took Janice's reaction less as one of jealousy and one more of understanding or condescension since she never changes either and is always trying to convince everyone she has/is . Her constant new agey breakthroughs, born again stuff, anger management, etc. so it read to me like more of an eye roll. They change SOME but almost never fundamentally. Most people don't or can't. It's one of the things I love about the show that makes it and its characters feel so real. Most of us change to extent that outside factors force us to poo poo. Tony wasn't out of his coma a day before he's strong arming the garbage guy and berating Bobby. He's glad to be alive, gets his fist breath of fresh air in weeks and only appreciates the sunlight and the birds and poo poo because he hasn't seen them in a while. Not sweating the $2000 the paramedic swiped as if that's not 20 bucks to him. Paulie is back to busting legs for money. Carm is counting money and light envelopes. AJ is half assing it at Blockbuster. I never realized how little really happens in the episode aside from the Paulie thing but that didn't land all that hard for me and felt kind of shoved in. The rapper shooting seemed meandering and pointless. I guess they were going for the who lives, who dies, who's sick, who's not and what does it all mean/who deos what and why (exemplified by Holbrook's "everything is everything" quote that shows how pointless it is) and shows how everyone just keeps doing the same poo poo they always do and deals with the poo poo the same way they always have only under new (sometimes extreme) circumstances
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Jan 9, 2020 23:31
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