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Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

The thought that Pompeo pushed him into this, and now its technically going to be harder to start a war with Iran because of it makes me smile.

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mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Jealous Cow posted:

The thought that Pompeo pushed him into this, and now its technically going to be harder to start a war with Iran because of it makes me smile.

McConnell will kill this in the senate...

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

mcmagic posted:

McConnell will kill this in the senate...

Have to agree with the McM on this one.

Nothing that removes power to drop bombs is ever getting past the senate.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer
Doubling up on the military power tax:
https://i.imgur.com/UY8MHJQ.mp4

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Revelation 2-13 posted:

drat, I suddenly remembered how he wanted the army to go back to using couriers with written messages instead of ‘digital’. That was like a million years ago and he was a complete dumbshit back then already, the dementia/stroke has just made him even more of a complete drooling moron.

Stop them from carrying the guns away! Those guns, down the valley! *gestures angrily*

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



Jaxyon posted:

Have to agree with the McM on this one.

Nothing that removes power to drop bombs is ever getting past the senate.

GOP talking point is democrats do nothing.

Democrats talking point is "look at all the poo poo we are trying to do."

UnknownTarget
Sep 5, 2019

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Senate Resolution



1) or else what?

2) love how they're wording this really specifically instead of taking on the whole war powers act thing, which is the real problem.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

MSDOS KAPITAL posted:

The base is not "the people you always get" like they're obligated to vote and vote for you. The base is the people who follow politics at least a bit, and whose preferences broadly align with what you at least claim to support. They're the ones whose votes are supposed to be easily gettable, if you put in some effort. They follow the primaries and they usually vote in them as well. They're also usually thought of as the people you represent. They're not a lock but if you can't even get them to turn out, then you're a terrible candidate.

How many more or less votes does that nuance mean?

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

UnknownTarget posted:

1) or else what?

2) love how they're wording this really specifically instead of taking on the whole war powers act thing, which is the real problem.

Amending or repealing the war powers resolution would require either a compliant president or a supermajority in both the house and senate, which I strongly doubt is possible at the moment.

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

This must be so much worse than the public knows for them to be doing this.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Hey remember when someone said yesterday that he hoped that Trump didn't watch the wrong Fox News show

https://twitter.com/allahpundit/status/1215082577784119296

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

Jaxyon posted:

Have to agree with the McM on this one.

Nothing that removes power to drop bombs is ever getting past the senate.

Mike Lee and Rand Paul are going to vote for it, so that's at least 49 votes.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

FlamingLiberal posted:

Hey remember when someone said yesterday that he hoped that Trump didn't watch the wrong Fox News show

https://twitter.com/allahpundit/status/1215082577784119296

lol. jesus, tucker the nazi sorta helped. thats depressing.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost

FlamingLiberal posted:

Hey remember when someone said yesterday that he hoped that Trump didn't watch the wrong Fox News show

https://twitter.com/allahpundit/status/1215082577784119296

LMAO Tucker Carlson prevents WWIII for a while

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer
Americans Aren't Rallying to Trump
msn.com/10 hrs ago
"So that was not exactly the Cuban missile crisis."

McConnell has the GOP votes for Trump's trial now. That doesn't mean he'll have them later.
nbcnews.com/Jan. 7, 2020
"A handful of Senate Republicans, whom McConnell needs on his side, are being watched for signs they may vote with Democrats to call witnesses."

Republicans Scared Bolton Will Testify About Trump’s Ukraine Crimes
nymag.com/Jan. 7, 2020
'When a parade of witnesses defied the White House to testify about the administration’s plot to turn Ukraine policy into a lever to dirty up President Trump’s domestic enemies, Republicans dismissed it all as secondhand information. None of them had spoken directly to Trump, except Gordon Sondland, whose memory of such discussions proved fuzzy. “Their understanding, which is the foundation of the case for the Democrats, was based on secondhand information,” said Representative Kevin McCarthy, mouthing the party’s favorite talking point.

Yesterday, former national security adviser John Bolton put himself forward as a willing witness for the Senate impeachment trial. Bolton’s testimony is very much of the firsthand variety. On at least one occasion, he met with Trump and pleaded with him to release military aid to Ukraine. Yet Republicans seem shockingly unreceptive for the chance to hear the kind of firsthand testimony they have been demanding for weeks.'

'Approximately 100 percent' of tariff costs have fallen onto Americans, new research shows
markets.businessinsider.com/Jan. 6, 2020
[Duh. Pass it on to the chuds anyway.]

Trump Administration Quietly Goes After Disability Benefits
huffpost.com/01/07/2020
"Some Americans could lose Social Security Disability Insurance benefits under a recent Trump administration proposal ― a change that could affect thousands of people but that has received little attention since it was first floated in November."

Spain gets new left-wing coalition government after socialist leader wins vote
independent.co.uk/1 day ago
"Spain got a new left-wing coalition government on Tuesday after the country’s parliament voted to return Pedro Sanchez as prime minister.

The administration is a coalition between the centre-left Spanish Socialist Workers’ Party (PSOE) and the leftist group Podemos.

The decision appears to signal an end to months of political deadlock in Spain, which held two general elections last year, the most recent of them in November.

The new coalition is the first such arrangement in the country’s political history since the restoration of democracy in the 1970s."

What Will Happen to The Trump Toadies?
nymag.com/intelligencer/Jan. 7, 2020
"Look to Nixon’s defenders, and the Vichy collaborators, for clues."
....
'Irony, declared dead after 9/11, is alive and kicking in Trump’s America. It’s the concepts of truth and shame that are on life support. The definition of “facts” has been so thoroughly vandalized that Americans can no longer agree on what one is, and our president has barreled through so many crimes and misdemeanors with so few consequences that it’s impossible to gainsay his claim that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and get away with it. Donald Trump proves daily that there is no longer any penalty for doing wrong as long as you deny everything, never say you’re sorry, and have co-conspirators stashed in powerful places to put the fix in.'
....

Satellite Images Show Australia's Devastating Wildfires From Space
nasaspxa.com/January 4, 2020
"Satellites in space can spot changes to Earth’s climate, and they are providing frightening bird’s-eye views of the devastating consequences of global warming."

Edit: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3908888

Otteration fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Jan 9, 2020

A Terrible Person
Jan 8, 2012

The Dance of Friendship

Fun Shoe
Thoughts and prayers for our uniformed murderers, but I sincerely hope Iran finds a way to further concrete how loving stupid and useless our leadership and trillion dollar military are.

It's funny seeing they're the cool, calm, moderate adults in the room and therefore probably won't, though.

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


FlamingLiberal posted:

Hey remember when someone said yesterday that he hoped that Trump didn't watch the wrong Fox News show

https://twitter.com/allahpundit/status/1215082577784119296

This is not OK.

Caros
May 14, 2008

ReidRansom posted:

This is not OK.

Nothing is ok.

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

ReidRansom posted:

This is not OK.

Chill dude, O'Reilly's not around anymore in any real fashion.



Instead we've got president Hannity.

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





Otteration posted:

How many more or less votes does that nuance mean?
About 75,000 in four swing states.

Aeolusdallas
Mar 2, 2016

Akumu posted:

It really feels like Mike Lee's problem is not anything to do with the decision made but just that Senator Mike Lee's authority was not respected.

That will piss off any Senator.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

Caros posted:

Nothing is ok.

Counterpoint tax:

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Otteration posted:

I'll make fun of the orange fecal smear's sniffing and slurping all day long given obvious data (and because such speculation does not matter at all), but it's way to early to speculate on the cause of any air crash absent actual data.

Edit for clarification.

We have actual data, it's a plane taking off and transmitting data normally, then suddenly stopping the transmission of data and then crashing.

Something catastrophic happened to that plane to take it from normal to "completely hosed" (a technical term) within seconds -- not long enough for a distress call or a transmission of any kind of abnormal flight path. While I think it's too early to say a missile took it down definitively, it is absolutely reasonable to speculate that this plane crash is directly related to the US/Iran conflict that was happening at the same time. Whether it was a missile, a bomb, or a hurried maintenance job that got hosed up to get a plane out of a near-warzone ASAP, I simply do not believe these two situations are unrelated. The chances are so phenomenally slim it would be like being struck by lightning after walking out of a store where you've just purchased a jackpot-winning lottery ticket. This was a relatively new plane of a proven type, operated by an airline with a great safety record and flown by an experienced crew, it didn't "just crash."

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

MSDOS KAPITAL posted:

About 75,000 in four swing states.

Fix it then.

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe
We don't have enough info. I know coincidences can be real mind blowers for people though. Perhaps the one true Christian God slapped it out of the air?

Smiling Jack
Dec 2, 2001

I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

It's entirely possible this is totally unrelated. Everyone was thinking Flight 587, two months after the 9/11 attacks was terrorism, but it turns out the vertical stabilizer broke off.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_587

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Don’t tell me I can’t speculate. Try and stop me!

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

PT6A posted:

We have actual data, it's a plane taking off and transmitting data normally, then suddenly stopping the transmission of data and then crashing.

Something catastrophic happened to that plane to take it from normal to "completely hosed" (a technical term) within seconds -- not long enough for a distress call or a transmission of any kind of abnormal flight path. While I think it's too early to say a missile took it down definitively, it is absolutely reasonable to speculate that this plane crash is directly related to the US/Iran conflict that was happening at the same time. Whether it was a missile, a bomb, or a hurried maintenance job that got hosed up to get a plane out of a near-warzone ASAP, I simply do not believe these two situations are unrelated. The chances are so phenomenally slim it would be like being struck by lightning after walking out of a store where you've just purchased a jackpot-winning lottery ticket. This was a relatively new plane of a proven type, operated by an airline with a great safety record and flown by an experienced crew, it didn't "just crash."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_811#NTSB_investigation_reopened

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800#Tensions_in_the_investigation

What actual data yet?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-the-eyes-have-it/?error=cookies_not_supported&code=2f39a627-e88b-4151-a97e-a46e5bbdf866

https://psychcentral.com/blog/catastrophic-thinking-when-your-mind-clings-to-worst-case-scenarios/

Not saying it isn't "completely hosed", just saying we have no idea yet.

Otteration fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Jan 9, 2020

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

FlamingLiberal posted:

Hey remember when someone said yesterday that he hoped that Trump didn't watch the wrong Fox News show

https://twitter.com/allahpundit/status/1215082577784119296

The president won't listen to his own generals but will to some shithead on the TV. I wonder if America thinks the rest of the world still respects it.

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get,
the more I feel like laughing.




I don't buy this act at all. These ghouls realize that the President almost sleepwalked the country into another unpopular, costly conflict that they would've 100% supported had even one American died but he somehow didn't go through with the worst of decisions so now they have some wiggle room to pretend to be aghast and principled.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisVanHollen/status/1215107314358853632

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

Mat Cauthon posted:

I don't buy this act at all. These ghouls realize that the President almost sleepwalked the country into another unpopular, costly conflict that they would've 100% supported had even one American died but he somehow didn't go through with the worst of decisions so now they have some wiggle room to pretend to be aghast and principled.

These ghouls still have to be elected in 2020. Parts of their electorate may not be currently pleased. It happens.

Poll: More Utahns disapprove of Sens. Mitt Romney and Mike Lee than like them
sltrib.com/October 21, 2019

Recent state polls are hard to come by, but it's possible some of his constituency have been yelling at him.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

That is pretty insulting.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

lol. they have jack and poo poo.

Bel Shazar
Sep 14, 2012

Madkal posted:

The president won't listen to his own generals but will to some shithead on the TV. I wonder if America thinks the rest of the world still respects it.

Lots of Americans do think that, but it’s just because in general we are a loving ignorant and vain group of assholes.

Robot Hobo
May 18, 2002

robothobo.com

FlamingLiberal posted:

Hey remember when someone said yesterday that he hoped that Trump didn't watch the wrong Fox News show

https://twitter.com/allahpundit/status/1215082577784119296
The idea that Tucker's show turned out to be the "Right" show in this situation has broken my brain.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
Hello USPOL, please spare a moment for this thread.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3909991

Thank you.

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003
This article is probably the most pure political Rorschach test you could come up with

Greedy corporations! Inefficient government bureaucracy! Inflexible regulations! Slumlord Exploitation! Lack of a social safety net! Union drafted building codes! Monopoly noncompetition!

https://nyti.ms/2FzdT3j

quote:

By Derek M. Norman

Jan. 8, 2020Updated 5:10 p.m. ET

[What you need to know to start the day: Get New York Today in your inbox.]

Each time customers opened the door to enter the soul food restaurant — which had been featured on several local news programs and was included on a list of New York’s top 10 restaurants of 2019 — they were greeted with an apology.

“I’m sorry, my love,” the owner would say. “We’re closed, indefinitely.”

Millie Peartree, who owns Millie Peartree Fish Fry & Soul Food in the Fordham section of the Bronx, has been without cooking gas since late November.

After an inspection found unauthorized gas plumbing work in the building, the gas service was shut off, leaving Ms. Peartree’s restaurant, as well as the residents of the five-story building on Grand Concourse, unable to use their stoves and ovens.

It is unclear who was doing work in the building, but a complaint logged by the New York City Department of Buildings noted “theft of service.”

“This hurts,” said Ms. Peartree, whose only source of income was the restaurant. “You need warm food. It’s the base of comfort.”

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Ms. Peartree informed customers hoping to dine at her restaurant that it was closed indefinitely due to gas line violations her landlord had failed to address.Credit...David Dee Delgado for The New York Times

Ms. Peartree, 38, opened her fish fry in 2017. Since then, she’s expanded her space on Grand Concourse and gained a robust following — one she now fears losing.

Ordinarily, the warm, rustic dining room would be bustling. Customers had come in droves to sit beneath the bright suspended lights and dine on fried whiting or catfish strips, shrimp baskets or chicken wings. One could order sides of collard greens or fried corn. “Call it glory,” one food critic wrote of the baked macaroni and cheese.

Ms. Peartree had ordered a substantial amount of food on the Friday the gas was turned off.

She ended up stuck with about 90 pounds of fish and no flame to fry it, as well as about 80 pounds of chicken wings and “about 40 pounds of macaroni and cheese all prepared and ready to go for the weekend rush,” she said.

She donated some of that inventory to friends and residents of the building: “I was going to lose it all anyway.”

Ms. Peartree had to let go her small team of employees and use her savings to keep up with bills over the past several weeks. She said she was still accepting catering orders.

She asked her landlord to terminate her lease early, but so far Stellar Management has refused, she said. At home — she lives a few blocks away from the restaurant — she turned off the heat to save money, she said.

“I just wanted to cook fish and be here for my community,” she said, her eyes welling with tears.



Ms. Peartree had to let go her small team of employees and use her savings to keep up with bills.Credit...David Dee Delgado for The New York Times

In a statement, a representative of Stellar Management, the property owner, said, “Management takes gas service disruptions seriously and is working closely with Con Edison, engineers and licensed contractors to restore service to the building as quickly as possible.”

The gas was shut off on Nov. 22, according to Consolidated Edison, the city’s electric and gas utility company. Residents still have heat and hot water, but have not been able to use their stoves or ovens for over a month.

To have service restored, Stellar Management was advised to make the required repairs and submit a formal work request for the unauthorized piping that was discovered.

Con Edison has not yet received notification that the work has been completed, according to the utility company.

Con Edison responded to more than 46,000 calls last year reporting gas odors. Of those, leaks were identified in a little more than half. Approximately 85 percent of the leaks identified were associated with customer equipment, according to the utility company.

Only a very small percentage of leaks identified result in disrupted service for more than a short period of time, but gas leaks are a danger the utility company takes seriously.

In March 2015, contractors at a building in the East Village installed an illegal gas line that proved deadly, resulting in an explosion that leveled half the block, killing two people and injuring 13 others.

Last November, the general contractor and an unlicensed plumber were found guilty of manslaughter and other related charges.

About a year before that incident, a crack in a gas main caused an explosion in East Harlem that leveled two buildings and left eight people dead.

While Ms. Peartree understands the concern for safety, she and other residents say the circumstance has gone from disruption to challenge to hardship.

Residents were told repairing the gas lines and restoring service could be a six to eight month process.

The statement from Stellar Management noted that electric hot plates were distributed to all residents within 24 hours of the gas being turned off.

“Our residents’ safety remains our top priority,” the statement continued. “We apologize for any inconvenience, as we await Con Edison’s final determination as to when gas service can be restored.”

Once repairs are complete, the property owner would contact the Department of Buildings to authorize and inspect the work so that Con Edison could make the final inspection and restore service.

But building residents are frustrated.

“We’re human beings that need to live, we’re not animals,” said Kywon Nesbitt, 32, who has lived in the building for about two years. “We deserve better.”

Ms. Nesbitt, who lives above the fish fry with her boyfriend and 13-year-old son, said her holidays were ruined because she couldn’t cook. She said she had been spending close to $100 a day on takeout meals for the three of them, including the Chinese food they ordered for Christmas dinner.

Ms. Nesbitt said that she tried cooking bacon on a hot plate, but the meat took about 35 minutes to heat up. The plate slipped, spilling hot oil across her toes and her son’s thigh, she said.

“We filled the tub with cold water, sat inside it and cried,” Ms. Nesbitt recalled. “This has just been traumatizing.”

According to Ms. Nesbitt, residents have been sharing food and checking in with one another.

One recent afternoon, the restaurant’s steel shutter had been lifted and the lights illuminated the barn wood wall panels and a handful of empty tables.

Behind the counter, Ms. Peartree milled around the empty kitchen.

The door cracked open and a woman, dressed in her Sunday best and tailed by a man of the same age, peered in. Her voice carried over the empty counter: “Hello?”

Ms. Peartree turned around, offering what’s become her standard apology.

“We’re no longer open, my love,” she said as she strolled toward the door and explained the gas outage.

“Oh, dear, I’m sorry to hear that,” the woman replied, slowly turning back to exit onto the brisk sidewalk. “I’ve heard some really good things about this place.”



Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

"We must pass a bill making clear Trump can’t start a war without a vote."

Realpolitik: "We might not be able to stop the orange fecal smear at the moment (b/c of current politics we're afraid of), but at least may be able to prevent loving allowing future Presidents to do it again in the future."

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Kavros
May 18, 2011

sleep sleep sleep
fly fly post post
sleep sleep sleep
If Ms. Peartree financially survives this, I swear to take people there on a road trip to have fried fish.

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