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Yeah, I was going to say. Dhawan’s Master has a really short fuse compared to Simm, his closest equivalent. But his charming side is much closer to Ainley or Delgado. When Simm tried being nice, it always felt fake.
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Rhyno posted:I'm pretty sure Delgado and Three had this conversation 7 or 8 times. And Ainley with whoever would listen. "I'm indestructible; the whole universe knows that!"
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The bit where the Master storms into the big hangar just loving PISSED that he's spent 77 years slowboating to get back to this spot and don't you loving humans do anything else goddammit I just got back here  was just great.Made even better of course by the fact that 2 seconds later the Doctor shows up and spoils all his plans 
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Jerusalem posted:The bit where the Master storms into the big hangar just loving PISSED that he's spent 77 years slowboating to get back to this spot and don't you loving humans do anything else goddammit I just got back here Felt very Curse of the Fatal Death, that - just needed a few more long trips and bribing the architect 
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Jerusalem posted:The bit where the Master storms into the big hangar just loving PISSED that he's spent 77 years slowboating to get back to this spot and don't you loving humans do anything else goddammit I just got back here Every time a villain gets rid of the Doctor, they stop to gloat and bask in their victory, and then the Doctor saunters in, having already stopped their plan before it even began Cue apoplectic rage while mentally screaming obscenities at time travel as a mechanic being used right for a change
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Vinylshadow posted:Every time a villain gets rid of the Doctor, they stop to gloat and bask in their victory, and then the Doctor saunters in, having already stopped their plan before it even began But enough about YouTube videos proclaiming progressives ruined the show.
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I kind of think it'd be hilarious for Dhawan's Master maybe deciding to piggyback of his past-self-as-Mister Saxon's paradox machine in 2007 to try and change stuff, only to get stopped by the Doctor springing Missy from her cell in the same time period help stop him. Although perhaps rather convoluted. But they've not got a free excuse for him to show up in historical episodes set between 1943 and the present.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I kind of think it'd be hilarious for Dhawan's Master maybe deciding to piggyback of his past-self-as-Mister Saxon's paradox machine in 2007 to try and change stuff, only to get stopped by the Doctor springing Missy from her cell in the same time period help stop him. Although perhaps rather convoluted. Kinda like that joke of the Doctor occasionally pointing her Sonic over her shoulder to thwart whatever plan [Villain the Week] is trying to set up in the background, except this time it's the Master trying to hitch a ride through time ...no wait, Jack already did that in Series 3
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Barrowman has said he'll come back any time, they just haven't called him.
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Rhyno posted:Barrowman has said he'll come back any time, they just haven't called him. Yeah, just look at how enthusiastic he is for Torchwood, he's written stuff himself now, and roped both his sister and Gareth David-Lloyd into writing for it too.
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Master is a Fixed Point In Time, change my mind  Jerusalem posted:Title names for 4 and 5 are EXTREMELY intriguing! Can't wait to hear Whittaker speak Judoon
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oh good, I'm relieved people generally liked Spyfall as much as I did, I was worried the general consensus would be negative because the two people I follow on Twitter who are still watching hated it. I think there are still issues that will probably plague the show as long as Chibnall's the showrunner, but it's easier to deal with because he's fixed some of the other problems, and we can see what was a matter of failure of execution vs. what is just how Chibnall rolls. I think that, although it perhaps could have flowed better, the editing was more propulsive, and the direction was largely terrific. I still love Akinola's atmospheric music, but this was a two-parter that could've used Murray Gold's bombast in the music. not that the music is bad, but it doesn't commit to the genre homage as much as the other elements of the show do. what I really liked was that the Doctor finally seems like a three dimensional character. I was waiting in vain last season for her to get a good foil, and WELL NOW. Chibnall must have realized he wrote himself into a corner, and the only way out was The Master. and it largely works. The Doctor reacts differently to the Master than either Ten or Twelve, inarguably, in ways that confirm and clarify her character. For one, she has little to no patience with his bullshit. She's initially shocked at his appearance, but only because she realizes he must have been impersonating O for a LONG time. everything else he does, it pisses her off. She's sick of his bullshit. and she effectively utilizes her knowledge of his psychology to thoroughly wreck him, TWICE. she owns him, leaves him to live out 75+ years, and then when he gets back to see his plan to completion, SURPRISE. that's just ruthlessly cold. which I think honestly defines her, and if I'm right, is going to be part of her characterization. That is, she's charming and empathetic and warm in most circumstances, but with her back against the wall, and her friends in danger, she'll not only destroy someone, but do it twice. I think the one thing that really foreshadows this, other than the rather nasty (but fair) trap she set for Tim Shaw in TWWFTE, is her confrontation with Krasko in Rosa, where she thoroughly clowns him. she's kind of an inversion of Twelve. while he was cold on the outside, and had a sweet center, she's sweet on the outside, and inside, well, you really, really don't want to see that if you want to have a good time, and not in fact the Worst Time. but she keeps most of that hidden, and her friends absolutely are not aware of what she's capable of. with the end of the episode setting up that they're (and especially Graham) starting to question who they've been traveling with, I'm hoping we get to a point where they see her for who she actually is, and have to decide if they're cool with that. also god, Sacha Dhawan is great. he's just having so much fun, from the beginning. The Master should always be fun! Evil and terrifying, but also absurd and theatrical. and he just goes for it. I'm not even mad at any perception that Missy's redemption was reversed. Chibnall is entitled to do his own thing, and I want to see where he goes with it before judging too harshly. some people are mad and accusing him of just erasing what Moffat did out of disrespect. I think those people are burned by what JJ Abrams did to Star Wars, more than anything else. I don't think Chibnall disrespects Moffat with this, but we'll see how this whole Timeless Child thing goes. neither Davies nor Moffat had the sheer chutzpah to seriously alter Time Lord lore, so this is a new avenue for the revival. did...did Chibnall read 7th Doctor novels? anyway, I'm optimistic for the time being, but also totally prepared to have all my hopes and dreams crushed by Chibnall.
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Spatula City posted:I think the one thing that really foreshadows this is her confrontation with Krasko in Rosa, where she thoroughly clowns him. Yeah I really love that encounter. Their first meeting she lets him feel like he's either on the same level as her or actually has some advantage, and then when they next meet she just demolishes him. That scene of her goading him into choking her and then staring down at him with amused contempt in the immediate aftermath is fantastic. He was somebody nasty and cruel who always defaulted to violence and rage, and she demonstrates how even with access to futuristic technology and knowledge he's still at heart a cowardly bully who automatically lashes out at those who don't immediately capitulate to him even when he knows it is going to backfire on him.
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I re-watched Whittakers first episode last night, I forgot how cool and competent Yaz is. Please give her something to do. As far as reversing Moffat goes, I'm glad the Master is evil again, but not glad Gallifrey is destroyed again. Surely someone has an interesting story to tell set there. I've kind of come round to agreeing with the people that say the Doctor abandoning the Master to the mercies of the SS, taking advantage of him being South Asian in appearance and framing him for being a spy, in an episode featuring a guest star South Asian historical figure who was tortured and murdered by the Nazis for being a spy, is in poor taste. But basically yeah I still really enjoyed the two parter. And lol at people complaining about the Master being overused and saying he shouldn't be back so soon. I want the Master in every story this series like it's loving 1972.
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BF writer Alan Barnes: https://twitter.com/senrab_nala/status/1216047037214593025?s=20
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It's an educational program!
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They're only Jaffa cakes if they come from the Israeli city of Jaffa; otherwise, they're sparkling orange biscuits.
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TinTower posted:They're only Jaffa cakes if they come from the Israeli city of Jaffa; otherwise, they're sparkling orange There was a court case and everything.
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I don’t even know if they exist anymore but the raspberry and lime Jaffa cakes were incredible and I really miss them.
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Jaffa cakes were probably the best of British candy/cake/cookies/whatever I've tried. Jelly Babies and Jammie Dodgers were both gross.
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Cojawfee posted:Jelly Babies. I think Jelly Babies have gotten worse over the years. They used to have more flavour and more bendy, now they are more stiff like. Must have changed the ingredients a few times.
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TinTower posted:They're only Jaffa cakes if they come from the Israeli city of Jaffa; otherwise, they're sparkling orange biscuits. The only official ones come from Dakara
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Azhais posted:The only official ones come from Dakara Indeed.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Social media gets leagues better when you just unfollow any official tv show/movie pages/accounts and totally divorce yourself from the toxic shitheads that thrive in those comments. This makes all of Star Wars better.
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Man, the part in Husbands of River Song where she goes the eff off in front of the Doctor before she knows it's him is really kind of sad. But very sweet when she figures it outs.
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Rhyno posted:Man, the part in Husbands of River Song where she goes the eff off in front of the Doctor before she knows it's him is really kind of sad. But very sweet when she figures it outs. "My entire understanding of physical space has been transformed! Three-dimensional Euclidean geometry has been torn up, thrown into the air, and snogged to death! My grasp of the universal constants of physical reality has been changed... forever. Sorry... I've always wanted to see that done properly." The fact he literally looks at the camera cracks me up every time - I never get tired of seeing the actors walk that line between character and themselves
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Vinylshadow posted:"My entire understanding of physical space has been transformed! Three-dimensional Euclidean geometry has been torn up, thrown into the air, and snogged to death! My grasp of the universal constants of physical reality has been changed... forever. Sorry... I've always wanted to see that done properly." Oh that scene is good too but I'm talking about when she goes off about how loving the Doctor is like loving the stars. It's my favorite River moment. And many will recall I was not a big fan of her.
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I always tear up at the moment she realises and he gets to pull the ‘Hello sweetie’. 
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The_Doctor posted:I always tear up at the moment she realises and he gets to pull the ‘Hello sweetie’. It's so good. I'm just youtubing clips looking for bright and happy moments since I'm having a sad day. I also watched a Nine compilation and man, the gravity and presence he brought to the role still makes me want more.
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Any excuse for this vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZW5tWXvn7A
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The_Doctor posted:I always tear up at the moment she realises and he gets to pull the ‘Hello sweetie’. Seriously, I had my issues with the way Moffat wrote her at times, but that speech and then the Doctor's pitch-perfect response (and of course, her horror at realizing she's finally let the screen drop in front of him) is just wonderful. Anyway, new episode in like 5 minutes! 
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I very nearly forgot it was on this week!
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SiKboy posted:I very nearly forgot it was on this week! I did forget until reading the last two posts!
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When you have a box which can go literally anywhere in time in space, and no need for any kind of job, the concept of taking a holiday is surely largely redundant.
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The_Doctor posted:Any excuse for this vid. Garos Studio does good stuff. My favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKV_-2IjTmg&list=PLVGpJFFiIfZcm5O5Ct0hSdCz16iI3z3zO&index=35
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