(Thread IKs:
fart simpson)
|
China does its cultural imperialisms in central asia not africa, duh
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:27 |
|
|
# ? Jun 2, 2024 11:29 |
|
Chinese people are no angels
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:28 |
|
I can see how that would be chronically stressful to deal with. my prescription is as always, mao was right:
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:29 |
|
Atopian posted:"A recurring theme for this thread is: "but the US is worse!" Pleade dont repost your post. Having to read your baby brain thoughts once is grating enough.
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:31 |
|
Atopian posted:"A recurring theme for this thread is: "but the US is worse!" Atopian posted:Obviously China is offering better deals, because countries are taking those deals, but that doesn't mean the overall effect on Africa is going to be much different than it was before. please share w us how terrifying chinese bridges and ports are going to overthrowing the wealthiest african nation, turning it into an open air slave market, and sodomizing its leader to death with a bayonet.
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:31 |
|
I seriously want an answer. What did you think the point was in saying Chinese are racist to Africans?
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:32 |
|
Pener Kropoopkin posted:What does Chinese people being racist have to do with their government's dealings with African countries? It was a reply to someone saying that China wasn't white supremacist. Sure it's not. It's Han supremacist, but that doesn't really help Africa.
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:36 |
|
shut the gently caress up you sinophobic KKKracker-rear end moron
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:38 |
|
I think the part about not having a history of bombing, raping, and pillaging is pretty good for Africa.
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:38 |
|
"China does bad things." "Stupid westerner, America does bad things." "I agree. Also China." "American apologist scum!"
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:39 |
|
"Han supremacist" is a racebaiting white devil dogwhistle and should be met with nothing less then a ban if not a permaban
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:40 |
|
Autism Sneaks posted:"Han supremacist" is a racebaiting white devil dogwhistle and should be met with nothing less then a ban if not a permaban What on earth? No it isnt.
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:41 |
|
Atopian posted:It was a reply to someone saying that China wasn't white supremacist. if your definition of a country being 'han supremacist' is anyone having any incidence of racism against non han then your definition of 'x supremacist' is useless and you are (surprise surprise) a bad poster. Autism Sneaks posted:"Han supremacist" is a racebaiting white devil dogwhistle and should be met with nothing less then a ban if not a permaban
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:42 |
|
Pener Kropoopkin posted:I think the part about not having a history of bombing, raping, and pillaging is pretty good for Africa. Sure it is. As noted before, China seems to be an improvement over the US from Africa's perspective. That doesn't mean that what China is doing is good. "Better than US foreign policy" is a low bar.
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:44 |
|
uninterrupted posted:if your definition of a country being 'han supremacist' is anyone having any incidence of racism against non han then your definition of 'x supremacist' is useless and you are (surprise surprise) a bad poster. If it were, I guess.
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:45 |
|
cyka blyat posted:What on earth? No it isnt. did anyone ask you what you thought you loving Caucasoid demon? go drink some more child blood, we'll come mount your fanged Nosferatu-rear end head on a spike later (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:45 |
|
Atopian posted:Sure it's not. It's Han supremacist, but that doesn't really help Africa. Show me where the han citizen's councils are marauding black folks in the PRC. Han supremacists were so racially chauvinist they built the TANZARA railway at enormous expense in both money and lives so Tanzania and Zambia could get a connection to the sea after Rhodesia threatened to block their deep water port access. Since woke clowns like you are always on about "lived experiences" have some lived experience here about chinese doing an imperialism in Africa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ad1Q6s6bNs
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:46 |
|
Autism Sneaks posted:did anyone ask you what you thought you loving Caucasoid demon? go drink some more child blood, we'll come mount your fanged Nosferatu-rear end head on a spike later Now that is racist, and a physical threat. cyka blyat has issued a correction as of 05:56 on Jan 10, 2020 |
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:50 |
|
Just like we should not take mod actions on bad faith because they are opaque about their decision making, we should not take China's actions on bad faith
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:51 |
|
cyka blyat posted:Now that is racist. sorry but whiteness isn't a race it's a disease, cry me a river bat boy
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:56 |
|
prc: issues interest free loans, runs guns and money to liberation movements, builds railways to break rhodesian blockades us: assassinates patrice lumumba and other anti-colonial leaders, bombs and invades african nations like libya, installs comprador elites that funnel wealth and resources to western nations at the expense of their own people, incarcerates more black people in the world than in any other country atopian: they're the same
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 05:57 |
|
Atopian posted:Sure it is. As noted before, China seems to be an improvement over the US from Africa's perspective. That doesn't mean that what China is doing is good. That does make it weird to be talking poo poo about China when there are more worthy targets to talk poo poo about. This effect is compounded when the poo poo talking takes the form of USgov propaganda. Which is like pot calling fancy Apple device black.
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 06:01 |
|
Atopian posted:A recurring theme for this thread is: "but the US is worse!" That is the relevance of the US to this conversation. Not as an entertaining source of fuckups, but as the primary supporter of imperialist actions that kill millions of people. Genuine anti-imperialists are concerned with actions like the destruction of Libya, Iraq, and Syria, the jailing of Lula, the coup against Morales, and westerners supporting the unelected Guaido in Venezuela. If you want to look strictly at financing the IMF and World Bank trap nations in lethal debt slavery they will never escape. The working class are forced into poverty as the IMF demands brutal austerity policies for it's borrowers. THAT is what actual imperialist finance looks like. Not China giving out good faith loans with few strings attached and then either writing off the interest or forgiving some of them entirely.
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 06:05 |
|
he says "from Africa's perspective" like they are supposed to be too seriously this is a level of evil you would think could only be created in a lab
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 06:07 |
|
Two good posts, but I also want to say this: If you don't like China, have at it, go off, just state your case instead of being a nambypamby equivocating pundit brained rear end dipshit.
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 06:10 |
|
Tankies: The West should be destroyed for turning China into its cheap factory without any regulations. Also tankies: China should be praised for turning Africa into its cheap factory without any regulations.
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 06:16 |
|
Autism Sneaks posted:seriously this is a level of evil you would think could only be created in a lab
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 06:34 |
|
Darkest Auer posted:Tankies: The West should be destroyed for turning China into its cheap factory without any regulations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7pz7CqWTMs
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 06:37 |
do not uncritically accept propaganda from the imperialist state that obsessively surveils its own citizens no not like that
|
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 06:41 |
|
Imagine thinking it's a "low bar" to issue development loans that don't have demands for neoliberal market reforms attached.
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 06:42 |
|
Atopian posted:Sure it is. As noted before, China seems to be an improvement over the US from Africa's perspective. That doesn't mean that what China is doing is good. China's foreign policy being better than the standards set by the West, to the extent that African nations would rather deal with them, than the West, is not evidence of imperialism
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 06:46 |
|
frankenfreak posted:Maybe not in a lab, but definitely in a lib. please don't infect my NOI bit with dad jokes
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 06:46 |
|
SKULL.GIF posted:do not uncritically accept propaganda from the imperialist state that obsessively surveils its own citizens why don't you just change your av to a Han person's face getting melted to the bone, just go completely mask off already you Nazi gently caress
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 06:48 |
|
SKULL.GIF posted:do not uncritically accept propaganda from the imperialist state that obsessively surveils its own citizens The reasons why people who equate the two countries are dumb as dogshit have been covered in detail, but thanks for providing even more evidence.
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 08:03 |
|
Racism in china is pretty incomparable to western racism, other than that it should be condemned where it shows up The notion of Han Supremacy is a problem, and was in fact a major concern Mao wanted to confront, calling it 大漢族主義. It's not an active ideology like white supremacy which believes in some natural order or physiological predisposition, it's largely a byproduct of Han culture being so prevalent that it has been normalized in China to the detriment of other cultures. Like a lot of east Asia, attitudes towards people outside of asia are based on a lot of stereotypes and ignorances gained during colonialism and / or contact with the west. Most stereotypes of black people are directly lifted from the American context, most stereotypes of white people are ludicrously positive. Modest Mao has issued a correction as of 08:23 on Jan 10, 2020 |
# ? Jan 10, 2020 08:19 |
|
lol we don’t have to go that far from China to see Han racial supremacy causing trouble ie Xinjiang
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 08:24 |
|
shrike82 posted:lol we don’t have to go that far from China to see Han racial supremacy causing trouble ie Xinjiang It's definitely an ethnic struggle but I don't think Han-Supremicist-Racism is the right interpretation, it's basically flat out wrong But americans only really understand things through race because it was the central ideology of your country for 200 years so idk maybe you're hosed to ever get it
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 08:26 |
|
China's involvement in Africa is 70 percent good, 30 percent imperialist.
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 08:27 |
|
china can have a little imperialism
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 09:13 |
|
|
# ? Jun 2, 2024 11:29 |
|
comedyblissoption posted:china can have a little imperialism its
|
# ? Jan 10, 2020 09:21 |