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None of the sequels are really put together in the same way as the first book.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:I was specifically told to never read anything other than the original novel Dune and Dune Messiah are the original novel. It's a trilogy of two-volume works.
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Jan 10, 2020 06:11
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Read them all. What else ya gonna do? Live a full and happy life that doesn't involve obsessively reading everything Frank ever wrote and compulsively picking up multiple copies of everything at used book stores?
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Jan 10, 2020 06:21
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Dune is the best book in the series by a gigantic, insurmountable margin. But if you want to read more you should at least read to God Emperor IMO
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Doc Hawkins posted:Dune and Dune Messiah are the original novel. It's a trilogy of two-volume works. This. Messiah is the end of Paul's story.
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Jan 10, 2020 06:25
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I fully get it. \ 
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Heather Papps posted:Read them all. What else ya gonna do? Live a full and happy life that doesn't involve obsessively reading everything Frank ever wrote and compulsively picking up multiple copies of everything at used book stores? I'm halfway through Dosadi Experiment. Seeing some themes shared with Dune. It's very much an old school science fiction story with lots of people talking in rooms, with Herbert's wheels-within-wheels on top of that. It's better than Whipping Star.
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Jan 10, 2020 06:29
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I dug the santaroga barrier quite a bit.
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Jan 10, 2020 06:32
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Heather Papps posted:I dug the santaroga barrier quite a bit. That's next in the 4-novel omnibus I'm reading! I forget what the fourth one is...
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Jan 10, 2020 06:37
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For real: Hellstrom's Hive.
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Jan 10, 2020 06:59
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I just finished Hellstrom's Hive. It reads like old school pulp mixed with some of Frank's iconoclastic elements. It's a breezier read.
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Jan 10, 2020 07:17
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How action-heavy could a film of only the first half of Dune possibly be? At a stretch, there's Paul's training scenes, the pacification of Harkonnen suicide squads, the actual invasion of Arrakeen, Paul and Jessica's escape and Duncan's death, the fight with Jamis, miscellaneous off-screen Fremen/Harkonnen conflict...? What am I missing?
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quote:Legendary CEO Joshua Grode, when they asked if Dune would be two movies. “There’s a backstory that was hinted at in some of the books [that we expanded]. Also, when you read the book there’s a logical place to stop the movie before the book is over.” Take it as you will
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Jan 10, 2020 12:55
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:I was specifically told to never read anything other than the original novel U can safely read through God Emperor.
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Jan 10, 2020 13:27
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They could do Fremen raids on Harkonnen forces to establish the fremen characters early I guess.
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Jan 10, 2020 13:29
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Duke Paulus fights the bull
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Jan 10, 2020 13:35
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At this point they might be bullshitting. (no pun intended) Duncan Idaho's last stand, depending on how far into it they stop?
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Jan 10, 2020 13:36
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Def be Mamoa battle scenes.
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Jan 10, 2020 13:44
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Don’t forget the introduction of sand worms with the mining operation. Or was that only in the movie? It’s been so long since I’ve read Dune.
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Jan 10, 2020 14:50
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It’s a famous book scene with Duke leto and Liet Kynes yeah
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Philthy posted:You are out of your drat mind.
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Halloween Jack posted:I just don't think that the unimaginable opulence of space feudalism, let alone the psychopathic decadence of the Harkonnens, is well-conveyed by having everyone wear a rubber trenchcoat. The miniseries didn't have a lot to work with, but the costumes tell you who the characters are. Everyone in Lynch Dune wears a military uniform or some kind of black shiny spacesuit. Jordorowsky's various designs would have nailed what you were expecting I'd wager:    I still love the Lynch stillsuites though if only for the fact that someone took the time to logic out the form/functionality into something that felt believable. Thigh puches that compressed when your thighs rubbed together for recycled fluid motive action and that sort of thing. DandyLion fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Jan 10, 2020 |
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Jan 10, 2020 15:01
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Absolutely. Bob Ringwood's stillsuits are unimpeachable, but the fact that 3/4 of the cast is also wearing some kind of black rubber costume detracts from them. Also, here's hoping the Sardaukar don't look like mecha anime. I wish people would stop illustrating them in power armor. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Jan 10, 2020 |
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Jan 10, 2020 15:04
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(They should look like harkonnen troops).
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Halloween Jack posted:I just don't think that the unimaginable opulence of space feudalism, let alone the psychopathic decadence of the Harkonnens, is well-conveyed by having everyone wear a rubber trenchcoat. The miniseries didn't have a lot to work with, but the costumes tell you who the characters are. Everyone in Lynch Dune wears a military uniform or some kind of black shiny spacesuit. The nobility and their retainers wear military uniforms because that’s who they are. They’re warlords who head private armies. Sting in a chrome speedo captures the character of the Harkonnens perfectly imo. I’m not gonna knock on the miniseries’ costuming because it’s probably the best thing about it, but I think you’re being seriously unjust to Lynch Dune. The women’s costumes are particularly awesome — Mohiam’s weird headdress and mesh gauntlet, Irulan’s golden dresses and enormous collars and veils, Jessica’s gigantic umbrella/hood on Caladan.
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Jan 10, 2020 15:10
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lmao why is gurney a dwarf/duncan 12ft tall?
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Jan 10, 2020 15:18
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I get serious ThunderCats vibes from that Jordorowsky concept art.
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Time Cowboy posted:I get serious ThunderCats vibes from that Jordorowsky concept art. Yeah its mostly the Lion-O lookalike I think:  
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Jan 10, 2020 15:24
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Both thunder cats and He-Man are canonically in the Dune universe.
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Jan 10, 2020 15:25
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euphronius posted:Both thunder cats and He-Man are canonically in the Dune universe. There's absolutely nothing in the canon to disprove it.
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Vlex posted:How action-heavy could a film of only the first half of Dune possibly be? At a stretch, there's Paul's training scenes, the pacification of Harkonnen suicide squads, the actual invasion of Arrakeen, Paul and Jessica's escape and Duncan's death, the fight with Jamis, miscellaneous off-screen Fremen/Harkonnen conflict...? What am I missing? That seems like a lot of action to me? Maybe they'll do a flashback sequence at the start like in LotR showing the Butlerian Jihad
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Would be cool if the opening scene of the movie is of spice harvesters on Arrakis going about their business and then get attacked by a massive sandworm and Harkonnens going apeshit about another lost spice haul over the radio and the camera pans over to a group of Fremen in stillsuits and robes standing on the precipice of a sand dune watching silently while one recites the "Bless the Maker and His Water. Bless the coming and going of Him..." prayer. DUNE Next scene is on Caladan introducing Paul training and doing the box test, etc. etc. just like the Lynch movie and book begin. WarMECH fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Jan 10, 2020 |
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Pham Nuwen posted:That's next in the 4-novel omnibus I'm reading! I forget what the fourth one is... The book is Whipping Star, Dosadi Experiment, Santaroga Barrier, and Soul Catcher, which means... phasmid posted:For real: Hellstrom's Hive. I guess I'll have to get this one separately.
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skasion posted:The nobility and their retainers wear military uniforms because that’s who they are. They’re warlords who head private armies. Sting in a chrome speedo captures the character of the Harkonnens perfectly imo. It's just that a lot of costumes that aren't military uniforms are, hmm, something made of black plastic, and/or maybe we'll shave their heads? quote:The women’s costumes are particularly awesome — Mohiam’s weird headdress and mesh gauntlet, Irulan’s golden dresses and enormous collars and veils, Jessica’s gigantic umbrella/hood on Caladan. To sum up, both versions have their strengths and weaknesses. I'm less impressed by what Lynch's team did with $45 million than I am with what Harrison's team did with the change under SyFy's couch cushions. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jan 10, 2020 |
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Jan 10, 2020 17:28
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I have a half memory of catching the last 20 minutes of the lynch movie in the middle of the night as a child. Later I read the book, then much later watched the film. It was an extremely surreal experience, especially when i realized this ethereal memory wasn't a dream, but a real thing that happened. As such i have great fondness for the film.
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Jan 10, 2020 17:36
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These costumes are great! (so is the theme) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjJPjAkLXS8
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Jan 10, 2020 19:05
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To this day it is the Lynch movie stillsuits I picture whilst reading DUNE. They are perfect. 
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Everyone's sad about jodorowski but I'm sad lynch couldn't do his thing
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Jan 10, 2020 19:25
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frankly anyone questioning costuming in ANY lynch project is no friend of mine
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Someone post the harkonen capo chair
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