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Archyduchess posted:I think it was a cockatiel and his plan was to.... put old people in a basement...? He was also a clone of Thomas Edison for some reason.
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Android Blues posted:Single word epithets are iconic and compelling, but you hit a saturation point with them. It's difficult. There's pretty much zero distance conceptually between Aero and Magma, or Wave and Storm. Like, Cyclops, Vision, Magik, Angel, these would all be considered hackneyed and forgettable names on new characters, in part just because there are so many characters who have that sort of name in circulation already. There is also the popular version of [color] [thing]. Especially black.
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Jan 6, 2020 22:34
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Yeah I've never really thought about it but Kamala's rogues gallery really is extremely dire. Her only recurring solo antagonist is, what, Lockdown? Kamran, who hasn't appeared again since Secret Wars?
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Jan 6, 2020 23:05
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internet troll guy?
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Jan 7, 2020 00:37
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Diet Poison posted:Also, Amulet? Ugh. Why do so many of Marvel's young-and-progressive-and-new set have the most generic-rear end names possible? It basically ensures they'll never really be A Thing. Wave, Aero, etc. The Inuk girl is Snowguard, right? That's alright. More like that, less nouns that can't be copyrighted. Course, running down the names of my favourite heroes, esp. mutants, maybe I'm just talking out of my rear end here. Especially thinking about how his powers could evolve to function like creatively-named mutant Armor except less cringy. Other than the copyright angle I don't think there's any issue with the single-word or generic names, we're just biased towards the characters who we've been exposed to more. If I take a look at a list of old Kirby monsters like Trull, Goom, Spragg, and Groot there's nothing about any of them that sounds like it's going to take the world by storm but of course one of them is now a household name thanks to a successful movie.
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Jan 7, 2020 01:42
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Not to be The Person Who Points This Out Every Time, but you can 100% trademark common nouns for a certain class of products, which is why there are trademarks for household products called Tide and Bounty and Sprite and Glad and Hefty and etc. etc. etc. etc. You can't copyright anything besides "original works of authorship", which individual words or phrases are not. At Marvel alone they currently have trademarks on common nouns including Thing, Storm, Wasp, Bullseye, Solo, Prowler, Lockjaw, Beast, Vision, Mosaic, Venom, Carnage, Kingpin, Mockingbird, Silk, Timely, Illuminati, Axis, Nova, Runaways, Defenders, Offenders, Avengers, Champions, Heralds, Exiles, Northstar, Atlas, Ares, Excalibur, Thor, Loki, Icon, Colossus, Sentinel, Destroyer, Dazzler, 'Nam, Falcon, Blade, Doom, Maverick, Rogue, Gambit, Excelsior, etc. etc. etc. This means that you can't make a comic simply called "Robin" or "Thing" without violating those trademarks, and the same would (presumably) be true of any of the new ones, assuming they actually get a comic (even a one shot) named after them and Disney/Warner/etc. file the proper paperwork. The trick is that to have a registered/protected trademark you have to demonstrate that you use it regularly, which is why you see a lot of those weird one-shots/minis featuring characters or teams that seem absolutely doomed to be canceled after five issues; it's because if there isn't evidence you're using it (to sell a product, not just inside a product) every 6-10 years it will lapse. This is why all of the members of the X-Men and Fantastic Four get (at least) a one-shot every few years, lest they lose the trademarks to any of those names. It's also why Marvel never bothered trying to register all that much for TV/Film until recently, because even if they did register Runaways as a television/film in 2003, they wouldn't have been able to support it within the deadline, assuming "Runaways" was even unclaimed for movies at the time (it wasn't), hence "Marvel's Runaways". This works both ways, those trademarks for generic terms are limited, so that Marvel can own "Storm" but DC (or anyone) can put out a book called "The Wild Storm" or "Stormwatch" or "The Coming Storm" etc. so long as you know, you don't have the cover be a white haired African weather goddess. This even works for things like Terry Moore's Echo, which to differentiate it from the Marvel superhero Echo is called "Terry Moore's Echo". I guess naming a character Amulet when that's already the name of a best-selling YA graphic novel series is probably keeping the character from ever achieving Spider-Man or even Static [Shock] status, but that has nothing to do with copyright.
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Jan 7, 2020 02:37
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Yes it's less about the true copyright/trademark legality and more just the general idea of giving a character a name that is unique so that the word or phrase is undeniably a reference to that character and nothing else.
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Jan 7, 2020 03:23
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Archyduchess posted:Anyway it looks like this guy's whole deal is based off the nazar, that really common blue-circle/eye/hand apotropaic motif. It's not a bad character design and I guess if you're going to use real-world belief-adjacent stuff for the grist of a superhero it's probably not any worse than any of the golems or archangels running around? But it's really not "Muslim" so much as "Middle Eastern," since its important to, say, Hindu communities in Southern Asia as well. The oldest examples of these things predate the origins of Islam by a pretty comfy margin going off the thin amount of research I just did and what I remember from college. They're pretty common in parts of Europe too - I honestly always thought of them as a Greek thing.
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Jan 7, 2020 11:10
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Blockhouse posted:are muslims known for being able to project force fields? Only during Ramadan.
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Jan 7, 2020 16:03
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Wow, Black Cat #8 might be even better than the Annual. Phenomenal writing with Felicia's mother (unlike Iron Fist's usual problems: very relatable), gorgeous art from Wu, Ruan & Reber and the latest bit of B&E was great, especially with how the two scenes dovetailed. The Queenpin references were amusing too. Gotta say Vulpes, you're getting into Ewing territory with your continuity weaving, as Black Cat feels like it it has such a neatly situated place within the 616, and I'm a big fan of your switching between scenes. Can't wait for the two Anka issues next!
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Jan 8, 2020 12:24
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It's also always nice to see lady Beetle.
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Jan 8, 2020 14:33
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I loved how happy Danny was to have a fight with somebody fun. Would have liked for him to have called her a Spider-Man villain, though, that woulda been great. This is a book I actually get excited for the next issue of, too, instead of just keeping up with it. Just seeing the preview of next month's cover made me grin.
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Jan 8, 2020 20:29
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I'll add my voice to the chorus of praise for Black Cat. It was a delight to see Pei again. Amazing Mary Jane was also great I'm glad next issue's not the last. And hey, the Kindred plot is moving forward in ASM again! They definitely seem to be swerving away from all the hints it's Harry Osborn, but I've no idea who else fits all the information.
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Jan 8, 2020 20:59
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Thanks for the kinds words and support, friends! And yes, Danny totally should have called her a Spider-Man villain.
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Jan 8, 2020 23:43
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Is Angela in any books at the moment?
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I’m catching up with Immortal Hulk on Marvel Unlimited and so far it’s every bit as good as I was led to believe. One question I have: around like issue 11 or 12 Banner is having a conversation with the current Hulk and asks him what Banmer should call him if not “Devil Hulk.” We don’t hear the answer, but Banner says something like “That makes a lot of sense.” Has that been paid off yet? Would anyone be willing to spoil it for me if it has?
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Jan 10, 2020 15:30
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No. It's still building but the book is currently on a detour to battle capitalism
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Jan 10, 2020 15:45
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Cool, thanks. I’m intrigued to see how Ewing manages to steer the book in that direction.
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Jan 10, 2020 15:48
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Splint Chesthair posted:Cool, thanks. I’m intrigued to see how Ewing manages to steer the book in that direction. One of the big strengths of the book is that it is changed the premise a few times, and that really avoids the trap that most horror books fall into. Dario Agger is so good.
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I don’t remember what issue, but Doc Samson did give a pretty fitting name to the new Hulk.
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Jan 10, 2020 18:52
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eve ewing will in fact be writing the next run of champions
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Jan 10, 2020 21:49
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site posted:eve ewing will in fact be writing the next run of champions Sold, even if it felt like having all the teen heroes ever kinda tanked the last book. If they keep the focus to Kamala/Miles/Nova they should do better. Plus it's Ewing.
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Jan 10, 2020 21:55
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https://twitter.com/ryanqnorth/status/1215736916873707524 Cool, I'm always down for more Ryan North comics.
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Jan 10, 2020 22:08
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marvel was so mad jeremy wanted to give julie a new gf they cancelled his book after issue 1 and gave it to ryan
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Jan 10, 2020 22:09
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I like Ryan North a lot and I loved Squirrel Girl but I still feel, rationally or not, that the way he handled Doreen and Nancy was kind of chickenshit when all was said and done.
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Jan 10, 2020 22:14
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Koi Boi was the trans character they never actually said was trans in the comic right?
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He was shown wearing a chest binder at the very least, which isn't necessarily conclusive but certainly seems like what North and Henderson were intending. Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part but I got the impression that Koi Boi and the Doreen/Nancy relationship were left unstated/ambiguous because nobody at Marvel could interfere with it. I have absolutely nothing to support this other than that they seem like genuinely decent people and I would like that sort of positive subversiveness to be the true.
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howe_sam posted:Koi Boi was the trans character they never actually said was trans in the comic right? yeah, iirc ryan put out a tweet confirming that he is wearing a binder, but its never spoken of in the book rantmo posted:Doreen/Nancy relationship were left unstated/ambiguous because nobody at Marvel could interfere with it. lmao wut
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Jan 10, 2020 22:55
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Sadly I don't think Julie will be drawn with abs you could grate cheese with in this one.
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Jan 10, 2020 22:57
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Trying to actually get this stuff onto the page and make it as textual as possible without someone in editorial shutting it down. Couldn't think of a better way of phrasing it. Like I said, it's wishful thinking on my part.
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Dawgstar posted:Sadly I don't think Julie will be drawn with abs you could grate cheese with in this one. nor do i think we'll see rikki barnes, muscle wife
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site posted:nor do i think we'll see rikki barnes, muscle wife Somebody brought it up, posting the page you might expect but he hasn't responded.
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site posted:lmao wut I imagine they mean that if Ryan tried to make it explicit, then Marvel would put an end to it. Keeping it implied means that he could keep addressing it. Something like trying to avoid the Mystique/Destiny thing from happening again.
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IUG posted:I imagine they mean that if Ryan tried to make it explicit, then Marvel would put an end to it. Keeping it implied means that he could keep addressing it. Something like trying to avoid the Mystique/Destiny thing from happening again. That's a much clearer way of saying it, thank you.
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i guess i could almost go along with that except for the part where the book literally ended and even in the final issue he didnt bother making it explicit
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Jan 11, 2020 00:38
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New Warriors? https://www.newsarama.com/48562-night-thrasher-resurrects-the-new-warriors-after-outlawed.html Ok then
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kinda hard to believe that the older millennial warriors are even remotely near the same age as kamala/miles/riri/ etc e: poo poo, i guess theyd deffo be gen x huh site fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Jan 11, 2020 |
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Depending on what date you want to accept as the cutoff, the youngest Generation X people are currently somewhere between 36 and 40. At this point Peter Parker is a Millennial, the founding X-Men are likely Millennials. I guess a smattering of SIlver Age Debuting heroes might be Generation X -- Reed Richards, Stephen Strange, Ben Grimm, maybe Bruce Banner and Tony Stark? But everyone else with their own book is either effectively immortal or a Millennial/Zoomer/whatever. I feel like the young heroes introduced in the 1980s/1990s are in a weird space in terms of how much time has taken place since they were introduced. The New Mutants debuted in 1982 and were many of them were explicitly given ages: Cannonball was 16 Sunspot was 14 Wolfsbane was 13 So by that logic, given that both Cannonball and Wolfsbane are parents, and Bobby and Sam have been of legal drinking age for awhile, at least seven years have passed since 1982-Marvel. Power Pack debuted two years later and also gave explicit ages: Alex = 12 Julie = 10 Jack = 8 Katie = 5 Alex and Julie are both adults/college aged by now, which suggests 8+ years have passed since Power Pack #1, but Jack and Katie are both still essentially pre-pubescent kids last I saw them in anything, which would suggest that less than eight years have passed so... (Also Franklin Richards was roughly the same age as Katie Power in the original Power Pack series, suggesting that roughly five years passed between his birth in RW1968 and RW1984, though prior to Secret Wars Franklin had aged like a maximum of 3-4 years between 1984 and 2015) And the New Warriors debuted in 1990 and were all (I think, maybe with the exception of Nova) supposed to be teenagers when the book debuted. Firestar was supposed to be 13 when she debuted around the same time as the New Mutants, and Justice was a little kid when he met his future self in the Guardians of the Galaxy in (real life) 1980, slightly before the New Mutants debuted, right around the time that a 13 year old Kitty Pryde joined the X-Men, and a few months before a teenaged Richard Ryder quit the Nova Corps to "go back to high school". Anyway none of this ever makes sense but sure, I can believe most of the New Warriors are somehow still under 21. They're definitely not Generation X, and they might not even be Millennials (the youngest Millennial is 23 right now, the oldest is 35-39, meaning Batman and Superman are also explicitly Millenials now) And Captain America got defrosted some time in the Obama administration. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Jan 11, 2020 |
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