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Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Vib Rib posted:

The comments are a shitshow like I've never seen so many people acting woke and siding against the minimum wage poor person they're trying to get fired because he didn't want to park in the loving fire lane.

Minimum wage? They're not even actual jobs, they're paid per delivery. They need to blow through as many as they can, because at 2 to 10 bucks a delivery the only way they're gonna make anything actually worthwhile is if they do a bunch of them.
Anyway, they literally ask the delivery to be put at the front desk, it's placed on the front desk, and then they get mad. Christ.

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wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

Dr Christmas posted:

It seems to me that the TERF umbrella has spread to anyone outside of the right wing who has it out for trans people specifically.

Yes, sometimes I feel that TERF is going the way of RADAR, SCUBA, and other acronyms that crossed over into being lowercase words with little memory of what they originally abbreviated. There's nothing radical or feminist about many people who get that label.

On the other hand, we already have a perfectly good word in transphobe that would be a shame to lose.

e: vvvvv that's a good point though, "terf" is a satisfyingly visceral word and "transphobe" feels sterile and easily ignored.

wizzardstaff has a new favorite as of 18:50 on Jan 10, 2020

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Dr Christmas posted:

It seems to me that the TERF umbrella has spread to anyone outside of the right wing who has it out for trans people specifically.

It's a good use for it because the word "terf" hits people hard and terfs/transphobes hate being called terfs. The word has weight and momentum.

Transphobe on the other hand is a word that has zero weight behind it. No one gives a poo poo if you call them a transphobe. It's like calling a racist "Islamophobe" because they are specifically making GBS threads on Muslims at that very moment.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Grondoth posted:

Minimum wage? They're not even actual jobs, they're paid per delivery. They need to blow through as many as they can, because at 2 to 10 bucks a delivery the only way they're gonna make anything actually worthwhile is if they do a bunch of them.
Anyway, they literally ask the delivery to be put at the front desk, it's placed on the front desk, and then they get mad. Christ.

Yeah I worked delivery until last week as an actual employee and disabled or no people get hella loving entitled about "YOUR JOB is to take it TO ME." I mean, true, but I work for tips and make seven bucks an hour otherwise. It seriously fucks me over when I have to spend a full 20-30 minutes on a single order because I need to take it to your store in an indoor mall, or through your office, or take an elevator 15 stories up. And poo poo, being clear and polite as possible is almost better than a tip. "I will need you to do x for me" is way different from realizing at the last minute that this delivery is going to be a pain in the rear end while the irate customer screams at you over the phone.

The best is people ordering to their jobs and then making me wait on them to finish doing work. Thanks, yes, you are the only one working here. Glad to know you see me as a fellow human being.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.
the superior term is Feminism-Appropriating Radical Transphobe, please

slinkimalinki
Jan 17, 2010

Dr Christmas posted:

It seems to me that the TERF umbrella has spread to anyone outside of the right wing who has it out for trans people specifically.

Yeah, I think the only thing the average TERF takes from rad feminism is the idea of "men invading women's spaces" and they literally only care about that concept when it comes to finding a reason to hate and be vile to trans women. The trans hatred is the point, the rest is window dressing.

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
I dunno, I seem to recall at least one TERF complaining that moms were bringing their toddler sons to women-only meet-ups because toddler boys are molesters, always grabbing at boobs and whatnot.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
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Berninating all the people
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Sagebrush posted:

the superior term is Feminism-Appropriating Radical Transphobe, please

True, but then you miss out on the delightful phrase SWERF and TERF. Quite the conundrum.

mycatscrimes
Jan 2, 2020

slinkimalinki posted:

Yeah, I think the only thing the average TERF takes from rad feminism is the idea of "men invading women's spaces" and they literally only care about that concept when it comes to finding a reason to hate and be vile to trans women. The trans hatred is the point, the rest is window dressing.

Case in point, men like Graham Lineman are happy to come yell over cis feminists who advocate for our trans sisters. He's happy to 'invade women's spaces' to tell us which women we should allow in our own space.

^and the only reason I make the distinction here that his also yells over cis-women is to point out his hypocrisy, the focus absolutely should stay on the vile damage he does to trans women (who are women, full stop.)

mycatscrimes has a new favorite as of 19:15 on Jan 10, 2020

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

Cirrhosis Johnson posted:

Isn’t this somewhat true though? TERFs really do hate men, and they see transwomen as just men trying to occupy their “safe” spaces.

If you're restricting TERFs to actual radical feminists, then of course their hatred of transwomen in bound up in their hatred of men. These days terf basically means anyone opposed to transwomen so....

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

there wolf posted:

So the poster is an MRA type who pushes the misandry -greatest struggle of our time crap pretty hard? Because absent that context I assumed it was a feminist pointing out that the real hatred of men is poo poo like TERFism. I don't want to say there's some fell-blown movement to reclaim the term or anything, but I've known feminists to say misandry when they want to make a point about the real problems men face under patriarchy, in contrast to the ones that the misandry-criers harp on. Like you want to talk about hating men, then lets talk about these assholes that hate men so deeply they loath women who were classified as men and consider them the greatest threat to womankind.

I like this explanation best because it puts the focus back on me, the cis man.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

wizzardstaff posted:

e: vvvvv that's a good point though, "terf" is a satisfyingly visceral word and "transphobe" feels sterile and easily ignored.
we did it to chud and we can do it to terf, short and punchy so they know we're saying gently caress 'em

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

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Biscuit Hider
Hmm, a disabled person that can’t get to the lobby or go and and get food without great difficulty, and a subsistence-wage worker needing to cram in as many deliveries as possible and unwilling/unable to pay a fine for illegal parking.

Sounds to me like capitalism is the bad guy here

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

christmas boots posted:

Hmm, a disabled person that can’t get to the lobby or go and and get food without great difficulty, and a subsistence-wage worker needing to cram in as many deliveries as possible and unwilling/unable to pay a fine for illegal parking.

Sounds to me like capitalism is the bad guy here

:yeah:

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

christmas boots posted:

Hmm, a disabled person that can’t get to the lobby or go and and get food without great difficulty, and a subsistence-wage worker needing to cram in as many deliveries as possible and unwilling/unable to pay a fine for illegal parking.

Sounds to me like capitalism is the bad guy here

christmas boots, you might be on to something here...

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
yeah, it's easier to lash out at the peer wage slave than the uncaring system

it would be better to lobby doordash for some kind of "i'm disabled, bring the food directly to me" flag or commentary system instead of dealing with the variable expectations of where food would be delivered to, because it sucks to be a delivery driver and then learn you have to get buzzed in or gated through or otherwise have to deal with access obstacles (ironically) in the middle of your trip

of course doordash would then charge a $3 fee for full-trip delivery and not pass any of it along to the driver

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Years ago I did maintenance work on rental apartments as an "independent contractor" and my day was pretty much a 50/50 split between the landlord threatening to fire me if I didn't keep the hours and prices down and tenants trying to get me fired by complaining to the landlord and exaggerating in hopes to get more work done.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Speaking as a trans woman who read the TERF bible (spoilered for raw transphobia) The Transsexual Empire: The Making of the She-Male there is a legitimate hatred of men you can read out of it and other academic feminist TERF poo poo. It's not a stretch imo to claim TERFs hate men, after all they don't think trans men exist. :V

Cirrhosis Johnson
Jan 9, 2014

Patrick Spens posted:

If you're restricting TERFs to actual radical feminists, then of course their hatred of transwomen in bound up in their hatred of men. These days terf basically means anyone opposed to transwomen so....

Yeah, I was thinking more in the radfem sense.

Splash Attack
Mar 23, 2008

Yeahhh!
I am GHOS!!
Haaaaaa Ha Ha Ha!!




i don't know if they actually did it or not but this seems awfully mean and petty to post about

https://twitter.com/MadameTussauds/status/1215338581042122754?s=20

especially since some people have pointed out that phillip also retired but they didn't remove him :v:

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Republic of Canada when?

ExplodingSims
Aug 17, 2010

RAGDOLL
FLIPPIN IN A MOVIE
HOT DAMN
THINK I MADE A POOPIE


christmas boots posted:

Hmm, a disabled person that can’t get to the lobby or go and and get food without great difficulty, and a subsistence-wage worker needing to cram in as many deliveries as possible and unwilling/unable to pay a fine for illegal parking.

Sounds to me like capitalism is the bad guy here

Honestly that whole thread is the kind of leftist infighting the alt-right could only fantasize about.

But it turns put the true enemy was capitalism all along!

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Capitalism is definitely the problem, but part of that is people with such an undeveloped since of solidarity and empathy like that person. Like yeah they’re broken by capitalism and that causes them to be a horrible piece of poo poo but they’re still awful

Splash Attack
Mar 23, 2008

Yeahhh!
I am GHOS!!
Haaaaaa Ha Ha Ha!!




wait they actually did it hahaha what the gently caress

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/duke-duchess-sussex-madame-tussauds-removal/index.html

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.


Katt posted:

I'm sure women appreciate science debunking that.

My high school history teacher said that ancient Greeks did not know of a link between sex and pregnancy since it can be a while in between.

nerdz
Oct 12, 2004


Complex, statistically improbable things are by their nature more difficult to explain than simple, statistically probable things.
Grimey Drawer

christmas boots posted:

Hmm, a disabled person that can’t get to the lobby or go and and get food without great difficulty, and a subsistence-wage worker needing to cram in as many deliveries as possible and unwilling/unable to pay a fine for illegal parking.

Sounds to me like capitalism is the bad guy here

the trolley problem of our times

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.

Decrepus posted:

My high school history teacher said that ancient Greeks did not know of a link between sex and pregnancy since it can be a while in between.

your high school history teacher is a big dumbass. every culture on the planet going back to the beginning of recorded history has been aware of the link between having sex and having babies.

nerd plus rage
May 12, 2014

It's a metaphor for something, probably

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Do they? Cig smokers for sure, and people who are so stoned all the time that it turns them non-functional if you count that as addiction. But my experience with booze and H and other real bad poo poo is that it's either fear of withdrawals for the functional and "the gently caress else have I got to live for?" for the non-functional.

Somehow I have a relevant experience for this because my last roommate got hooked on heroin and got super into conspiracy theories about the government making it illegal because it stopped them from mind controlling people.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Dr Christmas posted:

It seems to me that the TERF umbrella has spread to anyone outside of the right wing who has it out for trans people specifically.

TERFs and the religious right have been making sweet bigoted love with with other for over 30 years. If TERF poo poo doesn't seem any different from regular transphobia, or you think the term is becoming broadly applied, it's because at this point there is functionally no difference. Nowadays TERFism is probably best defined as a subset of transphobia that leverages concern about women's safety and other feminist talking points in order to justify their bigotry. See also SWERFism and how Dworkins and the like criticizing the sex industry in the context of pointing out the failures of the sexual revolution in regards to women, got reduced to hating porn and yelling at sex workers for not playing into victim narratives about them.

And TERFs hating men is part of that, because the thing is TERFs don't hate men. The radical lesbian separatists of fifty years ago did, and you can see traces of that in modern TERF arguments. But it's really just a skeleton of the old radical ideology that got purged out in order to make a more broadly-appealing movement against trans people. It's really hard to imagine Mary Daly giving Glimmer the time of day regardless of their shared bigotry, but now he's the darling of an ostensibly 'radical' feminist movement.

avoid doorways
Jun 6, 2010

'twas brillig
Gun Saliva

Decrepus posted:

My high school history teacher said that ancient Greeks did not know of a link between sex and pregnancy since it can be a while in between.

the greeks had a fertility cult that worshipped giant wooden penises

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
My wife and I have had twelve children and never had sex. Explain that scientists.



Especially the scientist next door that all my kids look like.

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Oct 30, 2009

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Jesus, the most important person ever born, came from an immaculate conception so it isn’t like there’s no proof of children being born without intercourse

RoboRodent
Sep 19, 2012

Sagebrush posted:

your high school history teacher is a big dumbass. every culture on the planet going back to the beginning of recorded history has been aware of the link between having sex and having babies.

No kidding. Even if you're an idiot about your own anatomy, you're going to be a lovely farmer if you only have sows and no boars.

Humans twenty thousand years ago were not dumber than us. They had less history to build their knowledge on, but they weren't stupid.

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!

oldpainless posted:

Jesus, the most important person ever born, came from an immaculate conception so it isn’t like there’s no proof of children being born without intercourse

More like oldsexless.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Push El Burrito posted:

My wife and I have had twelve children and never had sex. Explain that scientists.



Especially the scientist next door that all my kids look like.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.
joseph: hey so wait how are you pregnant when we haven't even had sex yet

mary: oh it was um. an angel? (looks carefully at joseph) yeah, an angel.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Sagebrush posted:

joseph: hey so wait how are you pregnant when we haven't even had sex yet

mary: oh it was um. an angel? (looks carefully at joseph) yeah, an angel.

Joseph: jesus christ

Mary: oh you already know!

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Also re: parking, even just parking in the fire lane of whatever building bold as you please, you'll get third-party wage slaves whose job it is to tell you (rightfully, fire lanes exist for a reason) gently caress off, you can't park in the fire lane of this building, and so on. It's not as easy as just rolling up and ignoring the law because apartments and offices without convenient parking also tend to be in areas with a bunch of people who will notice.

And like I said, parking legally and going on a walk to get to you can ruin my night, income wise, but it's "my job"

except otoh, i'm paid poo poo except for making tips and it may as well not be a job, and your food is only the cost it is because i'm allowed to be paid literal leftovers. If I got paid what I were owed, your food would get an instant 30% hike in price. murder owners, imprison the entitled :thermidor:

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

In Sweden "Parking" and "Stopping" are two separate legal definitions. Where if parking is banned you can still stop to drop off/pick up people or items without it counting as parking.

What applies to fire lanes in the US?




Edit: a bit of trivia. In Sweden handicap parking spaces count as a "stopping forbidden" zone to cars without a handicap parking permit. So cheeky fuckers who want to park on them quickly because they're so close to the entrance are insta-hosed.

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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
There are both no parking and no stopping zones in America, I'm not sure which fire lanes are usually classified as though.

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