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Daric posted:Yeah I don’t know that I’d call what he did cheating. He shouldn’t have swept the sand, he got caught Daric posted:If he’d made a 7 on a hole and was like “I’m going to write down a 6” then yeah, I’d call that cheating. How are these two things effectively not the same? If it is against the rules, it is cheating. And there is no defence around not knowing the rules if you compete professionally.
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Yeah I'm obviously a bit biased here in that I've met Patrick a few times and like him personally, but I am aware of how the things he does look to the outside world. I am also aware that Justine running his social media and sending out Cease and Desists is not a good look. But the PGA investigated and both Slugger and Jay Monahan agree that they don't think he was intentionally cheating. So on one side you have a bunch of fans saying he was cheating and asking him to take a harsher punishment and on the other side you have the governing body of the sport going "we believe you, it's a 2-shot penalty". Which party do you think he's going to listen to?
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Jan 10, 2020 23:44
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Theophany posted:How are these two things effectively not the same? The penalty for sweeping the club back and inadvertently improving his lie is a stroke penalty, and that is what he was assessed. Intentionally improving his lie can result in a disqualification. They didn't find that, or at least did not give that punishment. One is cheating, one is incurring a.penalty. again, Johnson grounding his club at the US Open was a penalty, no one thought he was cheating.
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Jan 10, 2020 23:45
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Daric posted:Yeah I'm obviously a bit biased here in that I've met Patrick a few times and like him personally, but I am aware of how the things he does look to the outside world. I am also aware that Justine running his social media and sending out Cease and Desists is not a good look. But the PGA investigated and both Slugger and Jay Monahan agree that they don't think he was intentionally cheating. So on one side you have a bunch of fans saying he was cheating and asking him to take a harsher punishment and on the other side you have the governing body of the sport going "we believe you, it's a 2-shot penalty". Which party do you think he's going to listen to? He's not your friend. He's a cheater. I don't care what the PGA says. They only ruled that way because they aren't, understandably, in the business of trying to scientifically quantify intention. However everyone else can see it plain as day. He does it not once... but twice. And it's clearly noticeable that he's moving the sand both times. And he's looking at the ball. Even if he did it by accident (narrator: he didn't) he's ALSO cheating by not making it aware to an official that he moved the sand which is also one of his duties.
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Jan 10, 2020 23:48
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BonoMan posted:He's not your friend. He's a cheater. These things are not mutually exclusive, you know that right?
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Jan 10, 2020 23:51
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Daric posted:These things are not mutually exclusive, you know that right? What I'm saying is that you met him a few times. He's not your friend. Definitely you don't know him well enough to be swayed from his intention here.
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Jan 10, 2020 23:53
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BonoMan posted:What I'm saying is that you met him a few times. He's not your friend. Definitely you don't know him well enough to be swayed from his intention here. I'm not claiming to know his intention, I'm saying that everyone involved with the PGA tour has talked to him and THEY trust his intention.
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Jan 10, 2020 23:56
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Daric posted:I'm not claiming to know his intention, I'm saying that everyone involved with the PGA tour has talked to him and THEY trust his intention. Dude I'm just razzing you for saying meeting him a few times was somehow enough to make you biased. edit: But on a serious note. I seriously doubt they trust his intention. More like they couldn't prove it quantifiably. I mean watch the video again. He does it twice very clearly. Dude cheated.
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Jan 10, 2020 23:58
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BonoMan posted:Dude I'm just razzing you for saying meeting him a few times was somehow enough to make you biased. Well it wasn’t just meeting him a few times, his caddy has been one of my best friends for 25 years. Justine drove me to golf practice every day for 2 years in high school. So there’s a slight bias there.
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Jan 11, 2020 00:04
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Daric posted:Well it wasn’t just meeting him a few times, his caddy has been one of my best friends for 25 years. Justine drove me to golf practice every day for 2 years in high school. So there’s a slight bias there. Ok gotcha. He still cheated.
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Jan 11, 2020 00:09
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golf rules are loving stupid and you should be able to smooosh out the sand on your backswing.  #PACEOFPLAY
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Jan 11, 2020 00:26
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Daric posted:Yeah I'm obviously a bit biased here in that I've met Patrick a few times and like him personally, but I am aware of how the things he does look to the outside world. I am also aware that Justine running his social media and sending out Cease and Desists is not a good look. But the PGA investigated and both Slugger and Jay Monahan agree that they don't think he was intentionally cheating. So on one side you have a bunch of fans saying he was cheating and asking him to take a harsher punishment and on the other side you have the governing body of the sport going "we believe you, it's a 2-shot penalty". Which party do you think he's going to listen to? He should just embrace the Heel role complete with a little cheat wrestler logo on his golf shirt, sell thousands of them, donate proceeds to charity, and have the last laugh. Tell him to hire me as his P.R. guy next time you talk.
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Jan 11, 2020 00:47
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Mr. Mambold posted:He should just embrace the Heel role complete with a little cheat wrestler logo on his golf shirt, sell thousands of them, donate proceeds to charity, and have the last laugh. I have been telling Kessler non-stop that he needs a PR guy and he agrees, but Justine runs the show.
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Jan 11, 2020 00:56
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On a different topic, I've been hitting 50-100 balls a night with the Rapsodo R-Motion in my garage and it's working perfectly. I'm very glad I decided not to return it. I still need to take it out to the range and make sure everything lines up with what I'm seeing in the simulator but I believe it's correct.
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Jan 11, 2020 01:00
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I hope he doesn't hire a PR guy because making fun of him on the internet is fun and golfers are generally extremely boring anyway
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Jan 11, 2020 01:35
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Yeah the tour needs to become way less PR managed. poo poo like taking down the video of Rahm blowing up his caddy after trying to hit a 100 yard roping hook out of the trap last year. That was gold and it just vanished because everyone has to remain a professional class act at all times.
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Jan 11, 2020 01:40
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AndrewP posted:I hope he doesn't hire a PR guy because making fun of him on the internet is fun and golfers are generally extremely boring anyway No, you see he needs a good PR guy. A good PR guy keeps the client interesting and in the public eye. The only way for Reed to do that is full mustache twirling villain, and man we need that in the PGA.
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Jan 11, 2020 01:46
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Jesus, Ryan Palmer is making an rear end of himself. Hits a ball that is clearly in danger of/likely to be OB. Hit the loving provisional. Nope, 5 minute walk to ball area. Three minute search. Five minute hike back. Hits another ball. Just like every 15 handicapper on a crowded weekend.
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Jan 14, 2020 03:36
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torgeaux posted:No, you see he needs a good PR guy. A good PR guy keeps the client interesting and in the public eye. The only way for Reed to do that is full mustache twirling villain, and man we need that in the PGA. Don't kid yourself. It's still Vijay Singh. Reed is on course to take the crown, but Vijay's had decades of dickishness.
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Jan 16, 2020 17:57
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Poulter is a better villain and internet troll than either Vijay or Paddy.
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Jan 16, 2020 18:17
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yeah Ian Poulter is a god tier troll
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Jan 16, 2020 18:25
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Im going to join the tour and demand they let me do the hakka before every tee
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Jan 16, 2020 18:40
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Poulter is European tour, though, right? Otherwise, I'm with you on his position.
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Jan 16, 2020 21:58
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torgeaux posted:Poulter is European tour, though, right? Otherwise, I'm with you on his position. He won in 2018 so he's fully exempt on the PGA Tour.
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Jan 17, 2020 00:38
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Shrapnig posted:He won in 2018 so he's fully exempt on the PGA Tour. I know, he just doesn't play many events, he's primarily on the Euro Tour.
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Jan 17, 2020 01:18
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torgeaux posted:I know, he just doesn't play many events, he's primarily on the Euro Tour. He played 11 PGA Tour events last year and 8 European Tour events. I’m excluding WGC and Majors because those count on both tours. Dude lives in Florida
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Jan 17, 2020 04:07
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Shrapnig posted:He played 11 PGA Tour events last year and 8 European Tour events. I’m excluding WGC and Majors because those count on both tours. Dude lives in Florida Wow. Given he's someone who makes a field better, that's a real surprise to me that I didn't notice how much he was playing here. 19, plus 4 majors, plus how many WGC? Just curious how many events he's playing a year now.
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I've decided to go ahead and combine all of my hobbies so I'm going to start filming some videos about the different courses around town and talking about their history. I was planning on using my drone but wasn't sure how I wanted to use my regular camera until I realized that the umbrella holder mount on my ClicGear is the same screw size as a tripod. So I got a double ended screw and a ball head camera mount and now my camera can ride on the top of my push cart and record. And my clubs don't show up in the shot even at the widest angle. It's perfect.
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Daric posted:I've decided to go ahead and combine all of my hobbies so I'm going to start filming some videos about the different courses around town and talking about their history. I was planning on using my drone but wasn't sure how I wanted to use my regular camera until I realized that the umbrella holder mount on my ClicGear is the same screw size as a tripod. So I got a double ended screw and a ball head camera mount and now my camera can ride on the top of my push cart and record. And my clubs don't show up in the shot even at the widest angle. It's perfect. Beautiful. I take my good camera when I play alone, but for stills. I've been tempted to take the drone, but I'm not good enough yet.
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torgeaux posted:Wow. Given he's someone who makes a field better, that's a real surprise to me that I didn't notice how much he was playing here. 3 or 4, so he's playing pretty much every other week.
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Shrapnig posted:3 or 4, so he's playing pretty much every other week. Funny he doesn't pop in my radar like Reed does. US media, I guess.
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/ia...golf-clubs-saga
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I couldn’t find a Golf thread in YLS, so hopefully this isn’t too out of place, but i’m sellin a Bushnell Tour V4 Shift rangefinder. I’ll do a discount for goons. https://offerup.co/gLNXoRVZq3
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Jan 21, 2020 18:24
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So, I'm continuing to play rounds with irons only off the tee. Took out my 3 and 4 hybrids and put my 19 and 21 degree 3 and 4 irons back in. I can't get scientific results because of frozen fairways, but today I was careful to watch how far the carry was. I'm not sure I'm giving much up hitting 3 iron instead of driver. 30+ yards in ideal shot versus ideal shot, but I'm nailing fairways which gives me better approaches and keeps the distance differential down, too. I'm going to keep this load out for a few rounds.
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Jan 23, 2020 00:22
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I can't hit these cheapo top flite hybrids for poo poo, buying a cheap 4 iron to work with until i get an actual fitting
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Jan 23, 2020 01:53
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I cannot watch Jon Rahm without thinking of Denis Ménochet in Inglorious Basterds. 
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Is there any discernable different between a 19 degree and 21 degree iron? Seems like the gaps would be too close.
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Jan 23, 2020 22:44
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Dr. Capco posted:Is there any discernable different between a 19 degree and 21 degree iron? Seems like the gaps would be too close. I don't know, really, but it's the same with my cobra f7s. They are 18 and 20, my old CG16s are 19 and 21 (which is what I'm using, since I don't have a 3 and 4 in my cobras). A quick glance shows several sets by other manufacturers with similar close gapping at the 3/4 level.
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There should still be a gap if your ball speed, spin, and launch numbers are all good. Only a pretty small minority of amateurs check those boxes though. I only ever liked an 18 degree iron off a tee and that makes it too one dimensional for me to use one.
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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Suprfli6 posted:There should still be a gap if your ball speed, spin, and launch numbers are all good. Only a pretty small minority of amateurs check those boxes though. I only ever liked an 18 degree iron off a tee and that makes it too one dimensional for me to use one. I actually love the 3 off the deck, but man I cannot do anything with any amount of rough other than if it's perched on top of it. It's why the 3 hybrid came in. Problem for me is, I cannot, cannot, hit a hybrid straight with any real predictability. I always have some amount of draw...but I can hit them off the tee, deck, or rough, so it's a trade off. Likely result? I'm going to put the 3 hybrid back in, keep the 4 iron instead of the 4 hybrid. I need some time to dial in distances, though.
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