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Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?

Basebf555 posted:

He can continue to have a big movie career with those kind of numbers but it's not quite the same as being a top level A-lister along the lines of Arnold or Tom Cruise in their prime.

I wasn't reading closely enough and thought you typed Tom Arnold at the end there and was wondering where the gently caress I've been for the last thirty years.

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kaesarsosei
Nov 7, 2012
I won't be sad if Will Smith never makes another movie, but tbh Tom Cruise has been making some great stuff for a decade.

Oblivion
Edge of Tomorrow
American Made
Mission Impossible 3+

These are all legit great movies and I'll be sad if gets restricted down to just the MI franchise alone as that seems to be his only sure-fire box-office successes. Yes I even enjoyed Jack Reacher although the Mummy was rubbish. I have a feeling Top Gun is going to be a critical and financial disaster too.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

kaesarsosei posted:

I won't be sad if Will Smith never makes another movie, but tbh Tom Cruise has been making some great stuff for a decade.

Oblivion
Edge of Tomorrow
American Made
Mission Impossible 3+

These are all legit great movies and I'll be sad if gets restricted down to just the MI franchise alone as that seems to be his only sure-fire box-office successes. Yes I even enjoyed Jack Reacher although the Mummy was rubbish. I have a feeling Top Gun is going to be a critical and financial disaster too.

Cruise has had a very solid decade, BUT his standards were so ridiculously high there that I think you have to say he's come back to Earth a little bit. American Made, Oblivion, Edge of Tomorrow, The Mummy and Jack Reacher all fall into the same category where they did make a profit but either a very small one or just not enough to be considered a legit hit.

And it's not like Mission Impossible has typically been bringing in billions ala the MCU or Star Wars. They make good money but take away the three M:I films he did this decade and yea his career prospects would look a lot different.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Cruise is such a weirdo, but he seems to be the closest thing we have right now to an actual movie star who can work in nearly every genre.

As long as it's a good action movie, Top Gun 2 is going to make so much money. McQuarrie and Cruise don't appear able to make a bad movie together. Please note, I also told someone that the Lone Ranger would be a big hit.

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Oct 30, 2009

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Cruise is a Scientologist which is bad but he’s also Tom cruise which is good because he plays Tom cruise in 90% of his movies

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Just so people do t think I’m attacking only Scientologist, all religion is bad and one day hopefully with gods help people will learn they don’t need it

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


oldpainless posted:

Just so people do t think I’m attacking only Scientologist, all religion is bad and one day hopefully with gods help people will learn they don’t need it

More like oldfaithless

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Basebf555 posted:

Jumanji 3 did fine, somewhere around 600 million, but similar to Hobbs & Shaw, it was just fine. Nothing more nothing less. Whereas the first Jumanji sequel he did made a billion dollars.

He can continue to have a big movie career with those kind of numbers but it's not quite the same as being a top level A-lister along the lines of Arnold or Tom Cruise in their prime.

Right but that's a sequel to a solid movie so you can't count those as much.

I feel like the Rock has a base level he brings you even in a bad movie which is pretty good and if it does review well then even better.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I think the Rock knows he's on a downward slide. Every top earning actor goes through this. Arnold jumped ship to politics before it got too bad. Of course then he came back and slid all the way down.

What I'm saying is get ready for Governor Johnson.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Rock the Vote
Vote the Rock

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
The thing that guys like Cruise and Arnold had that The Rock doesn't is those iconic roles that they could return to when they needed a career boost. Arnold did it twice with just the Terminator franchise alone, and he's still got one left in the bag with Predator if he ever decides he wants to try for another big hit movie. If he were to do a True Lies sequel it would probably be the most anticipated action movie of the year. Cruise has Mission Impossible and how he's finally gonna try for the Top Gun sequel, which has a lot of people excited.

I can't really think of any particular role that The Rock can come back to in say, 10 years, aside from maybe the F&F stuff but that's such a complicated situation with Vin and the rest of the cast, I don't see it ever happening.

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

Basebf555 posted:

I can't really think of any particular role that The Rock can come back to in say, 10 years, aside from maybe the F&F stuff but that's such a complicated situation with Vin and the rest of the cast, I don't see it ever happening.

Artsy answer: Southland Tales 2

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

I know they sort of tried to address this in Dark Fate, but it sucks that there really shouldn't be an explanation as to why Arnold's T-800 model gets older. And given how the T-1000 worked, there's no way in hell we'd ever get Robert Patrick into the role again. De-aging can only do so much, that'd be impossible.

T2 had the ultimate enemy, and that enemy lost. Game over, series over, everyone go home.

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy

Krispy Wafer posted:

McQuarrie and Cruise don't appear able to make a bad movie together.
I think I've seen Mission Impossible 5 three times and I still struggle to remember any of it beyond Simon Pegg wearing a bomb vest. One of those times was relatively recently too since after Fallout was so good I assumed I must've misjudged 5 somehow but no, it's just bland as all hell.

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

T2 had the ultimate enemy, and that enemy lost. Game over, series over, everyone go home.
I haven't seen the new one but is the bad guy just the skeleton from Terminator covered in the liquid lad from Terminator 2? When I first saw the trailer I assumed it was nanomachines son but then afterwards I thought "actually it would be cooler if it was just two terminators stuck together" and I'm curious to know which it is but not curious enough that I'm going to watch the film :v:

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

Pilchenstein posted:

I think I've seen Mission Impossible 5 three times and I still struggle to remember any of it beyond Simon Pegg wearing a bomb vest.

The only part you NEED to remember is Henry Cavil's gun-cocking arms.

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy

DandyLion posted:

The only part you NEED to remember is Henry Cavil's gun-cocking arms.
That's number 6 :v:

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

Pilchenstein posted:

That's number 6 :v:

Case in point

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
The plot of MI: Rogue Nation in a nutshell: Ethan is captured by an independent SPECTRE-like group of mercenaries run by the main villain, Solomon Lane. A British agent working undercover with the group helps Ethan escape, but it later turns out that the reason the Brits were going after Lane is that he is one of their own. A very high ranking guy in British intelligence set up Lane with funding as a super secret black ops group that would be run completely off the book, and it was even hidden from the current Prime Minister. The key macguffin is a thumb drive with the account information to unlock billions more in funding that would allow Lane to go completely rogue for years to come, answering to nobody and doing god knows how many horrible things around the world(such as setting off a nuke and contaminating half the worlds water supply in M:I Fallout).

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
I hadn't watched a MI movie since 2, watched 6, loved it, then watched 5 and...eh.

I'm not sure 6 belongs with the other movies.

DandyLion posted:

The only part you NEED to remember is Henry Cavil's gun-cocking arms.

That scene is so stupid and so awesome at the same time.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I do think 4 and 6 are the best of the bunch. 5 is kinda required for 6 though, it's the only one that's really a direct sequel.

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

Pilchenstein posted:

I haven't seen the new one but is the bad guy just the skeleton from Terminator covered in the liquid lad from Terminator 2? When I first saw the trailer I assumed it was nanomachines son but then afterwards I thought "actually it would be cooler if it was just two terminators stuck together" and I'm curious to know which it is but not curious enough that I'm going to watch the film :v:

Basically yes. There are more hollow voids in the endoskeleton so you can cram enough T1000 in there to be able to operate autonomously (presumably with it's own hollow space once they split apart).

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

heckyeahpathy posted:

Speaking of: Ready or Not, which is a pretty decent horror flick about a rich family who maybe made a deal with the devil to have a board game empire, features a house with secret hallways and is sort of a twisted extended Clue riff, even down to a lot of the weapons used.

(It also has maybe the most bonkers ending of a movie in 2019)

Oh man, you weren't kidding there. It's a drat good black-comedy/horror, and I love that it never winks or smirks. It's completely absurd and ridiculous, but completely straight-faced throughout all of it. It's kind of like Get Out - rich people are horrible monsters, but are too dumb and vain to really see it. But without the racial stuff that elevates Get Out to more than fun schlock.

The ending reminds me a bit of Eli, in that I can't believe that everybody went along with it and none of the producers/actors put their hand up to say "hang on, isn't this mental?". And I'm very glad they didn't.

XIII
Feb 11, 2009


Strom Cuzewon posted:

Oh man, you weren't kidding there. It's a drat good black-comedy/horror, and I love that it never winks or smirks. It's completely absurd and ridiculous, but completely straight-faced throughout all of it. It's kind of like Get Out - rich people are horrible monsters, but are too dumb and vain to really see it. But without the racial stuff that elevates Get Out to more than fun schlock.

The ending reminds me a bit of Eli, in that I can't believe that everybody went along with it and none of the producers/actors put their hand up to say "hang on, isn't this mental?". And I'm very glad they didn't.

Yeah, Ready or Not was easily a Top Five for me in 2019.

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XIII posted:

Yeah, Ready or Not was easily a Top Five for me in 2019.

They made a porno parody of it called Here I come

XIII
Feb 11, 2009


oldpainless posted:

They made a porno parody of it called Here I come

Welp, off to Bing

Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer

oldpainless posted:

They made a porno parody of it called Here I come

What percentage of porn gets made just so they can use the silly puns?

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Joey Freshwater posted:

What percentage of porn gets made just so they can use the silly puns?

I have no idea. I’m not that familiar with the specifics of production in that industry. I’m sorry.

MichiganCubbie
Dec 11, 2008

I love that I have an erection...

...that doesn't involve homeless people.

oldpainless posted:

I have no idea. I’m not that familiar with the specifics of production in that industry. I’m sorry.

More like oldfapless.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
69% of porn is silly puns.

Duh.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
I got real disappointed in the porn industry when they just started naming parodies "It's Not..." then just the title of the movie it's parodying. Real hack job there fuckers.

ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011
They've still not made a porn called "Fantastic Breasts And Where To Find Them" and that's about as low effort a porn pun name as one can imagine

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!
There's no point, having reached peak porn name with "Willy Wonked Her in the Chocolate Factory".

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Stop talking about porn. No one cares about porn.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

oldpainless posted:

Stop talking about porn. No one cares about porn.

You know someone is going to say "more like oldpornless", don't you? Attention Seeker.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Jedit posted:

You know someone is going to say "more like oldpornless", don't you? Attention Seeker.

More like oldmorelikeold[blank]lessless

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




ookiimarukochan posted:

They've still not made a porn called "Fantastic Breasts And Where To Find Them" and that's about as low effort a porn pun name as one can imagine

Bitanic.

Which, ironically, holds the record for highest grossing porno.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

Gromit posted:

There's no point, having reached peak porn name with "Willy Wonked Her in the Chocolate Factory".

Inspect Her Gadgets.

OGS-Remix
Sep 4, 2007

Totally surviving on my own. On LAND!
Conception

CaptainCrunch
Mar 19, 2006
droppin Hamiltons!

Basebf555 posted:

I can't really think of any particular role that The Rock can come back to in say, 10 years, aside from maybe the F&F stuff but that's such a complicated situation with Vin and the rest of the cast, I don't see it ever happening.

The Rundown 2: Running Downer.

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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Ironically Saving Ryan’s Privates got beaten out by Shakespeare in Love for Best Picture.

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